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Dhragon;2055780 said:
Which is why you should be thrilled with Felix being the pick. Picking Felix pretty much ensures that MBIII will be resigned to a contract since Jerry acknowledged that Felix is just a part time back and a compliment to Barber. If Mendenhall was picked, next year would undoubtfully have been MBIIIs last as a Cowboy ( Why pay big bucks to him when you have a cheaper clone as well? )

You always know just the right things to say. :eek::
 

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This is the second year in a row where a run in WR in the second round has disappointed me. I love TO but we need to get some more young talent.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2055776 said:
Godfrey is the guy with a Houston Texan malt liquor bull tattooed on his hand... He's too stupid to draft.

I think he is from the Houston area..........
 

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BigWillie;2055788 said:
If a RB can pick up yards, who cares if he is like another? Give me the better RB of the two and not a 'compliment' to the other. I want the best players we can get so we can move the chains, pick up yardage and score points.

Basically, screw this 'complimentary' BS.

it's complementary

he's doesn't compliment the starter
 

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Must admit that hearing we wanted Sweed and hoped he'd fall to us sounds familiar. It just seems like I hear that phrase every year. There's always an excuse for why we don't draft a WR. Well, not much we can do about it. It's Jerry Jones responsibility to get Romo the players he needs to get the job done. If it turns out we don't need another WR (although Jerry did say his priority was to get a WR opposite TO this year), then we'll be just fine cause Jerry says so. If we lose TO & our passing game goes to pot, it's his responsibility for failing to do his job. I just hope Romo doesn't get so frustrated he takes off running more & gets hurt.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2055806 said:
it's complementary

he's doesn't compliment the starter

I'll learn to spell when you learn to punctuate and start sentences correctly.

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PosterChild;2055624 said:
They like a defensive end from Virginia Tech named Chris Ellis, a defensive end from UCLA named Bruce Davis and a cornerback out of Iowa named Charles Godfrey. I would look for Godfrey to possiby go to the Cowboys in the third round.


Anybody have the goods on these dudes?

Ellis and Davis probably project mroe to pass rush specialists in the 3-4...I think if they took Godfrey he'd move to FS immediately

David
 

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AlterEgo;2055795 said:
This is the second year in a row where a run in WR in the second round has disappointed me. I love TO but we need to get some more young talent.
Yep. I really think its going to sink us. If not this year then soon. Im tired of waiting for our projects to develop while our two starting recievers are getting ready to become grandfathers. I would really like to see Manningham or Monk in day 2. Even though they have their problems they both have talent where they could be special soon.
 

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"I would look for Godfrey to possiby go to the Cowboys in the third round."

I heard him on NFL radio a week or so ago and he came down to Dallas for a visit. He was saying that he really wanted to go to Dalas and if the Cowboys didn't get Pacman he would make up for it with his play. Anyway he said that they seemed pretty interested in him and that is where he wanted to be.
 

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BigWillie;2055788 said:
If a RB can pick up yards, who cares if he is like another? Give me the better RB of the two and not a 'compliment' to the other. I want the best players we can get so we can move the chains, pick up yardage and score points.

Basically, screw this 'complimentary' BS.

so basically it doesnt matter to you that one guy was far more producitve over his 3yrs than the other? Also, Jones didnt start because he played alongside a top-5 pick...Mendenhall couldnt even beat out an undrafted f/a for the starting job...

hey I liked Mendenhall some too, but there's certainly nothing wrong with Jones...he played in the best conference, vs the best defensive talent and most speed, and he was incredibly productive and explosive

David
 

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something that supports Mosely's source:

23. Pittsburgh Steelers

The pick: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois | Video ESPN Video

What he brings: Mendenhall isn't going to make many people miss and he's a two-down back at this point; he catches the ball fairly well, but he needs to work on catching the ball away from his frame. Also, he doesn't pick up the blitz consistently. He does have great size and is a tough interior runner who can pick up yards between the tackles, though, and Mendenhall has the second gear to go the distance when he gets a seam.

How he fits: Even though the Steelers had needs on both lines they took the best player on the board with Mendenhall. With the heavy investment they've made in QB Ben Roethlisberger, Mendenhall gives the Steelers another explosive playmaker opposite RB Willie Parker. With the combo of these two backs, the offensive line will look better and more space will open up on the back end in the passing game. The Steelers can get back to relying on the run to set up the pass.



That bold part, my friends, is Marion Barber with the differences being that the Barbarian is a better receiver and blocker than Mendenhall, but he does not have the top end speed that Mendenhall has.

Now this is what they said about Felix Jones:

22. Dallas Cowboys

The pick: Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas | Video ESPN Video

What he brings: Jerry Jones may not have gotten Darren McFadden, but he did get an Arkansas running back. Felix Jones is not a power back who is going to consistently push the pile in short-yardage situations, and the fact that he shared carries with McFadden in college and lacks elite size raise concerns about his ability to carry a heavy workload. However, he is a big play waiting to happen; he's quick around the corner, shifty enough to make the first defender miss and turns on the jets in the open field.

How he fits: With the loss of Julius Jones the Cowboys needed to find a change-of-pace back opposite Marion Barber. Felix Jones gives them an explosive playmaker who can score from anywhere on the field. He is also an explosive returner in the kicking game. Dallas is a dynamic offensive team and he provides offensive coordinator Jason Garrett another weapon to utilize alongside Barber, TE Jason Witten and WR Terrell Owens.



Now do any of you with skepticism about the Jones pick understand why the Cowboys did what they did ?

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Mr Cowboy;2055734 said:
Godfrey wll most likely be converted to safety.......he reminds me of Hamlin.

I think I heard Kiper say he played safety early in his college career. This is the guy I hope we take in the 3rd round.
 

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Help me out here. If Barber is a guy we really value (and we do), and we want to keep him fresh by not having him carry a full workload (and we do), then why would having TWO Marion Barbers be a bad thing? If Dallas had Mendenhall rated higher but took Jones anyway, it's just mind-numbingly idiotic.
 

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Bummer Monk wasn't mentioned. I was hoping for him (maybe in the 3rd or 4th) and Ikegwanu (sp?)(possibly in the 7th).
 

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Felix makes much more sense if the Boys are really going to try their hardest to resign MBIII. I think Felix signals MBIII will be a Cowboy for 4-5 more years. I'm sure Barber was greatly relieved that we didn't draft a cheaper clone of him, thereby making him expendable and instead went with a player where we still NEED him.

For those Barbarian fanatics out there, there should be nothing but love for Felix.
 

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Dhragon;2055902 said:
Felix makes much more sense if the Boys are really going to try their hardest to resign MBIII. I think Felix signals MBIII will be a Cowboy for 4-5 more years. I'm sure Barber was greatly relieved that we didn't draft a cheaper clone of him, thereby making him expendable and instead went with a player where we still NEED him.

For those Barbarian fanatics out there, there should be nothing but love for Felix.

Don't confuse people with the truth. Once we decided to commit to MBIII, Felix was the much better pick. BTW, every analyst loves the Felix Jones pick.
 

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dbair1967;2055878 said:
so basically it doesnt matter to you that one guy was far more producitve over his 3yrs than the other? Also, Jones didnt start because he played alongside a top-5 pick...Mendenhall couldnt even beat out an undrafted f/a for the starting job...

hey I liked Mendenhall some too, but there's certainly nothing wrong with Jones...he played in the best conference, vs the best defensive talent and most speed, and he was incredibly productive and explosive

David

It's got nothing to do with stats. If anything, playing alongside McFadden actually hurts Jones. Call it the Hambrick Syndrome where a player looks better behind a good RB, than actually being 'the man' himself.

And your comment about Mendenhall saying he could not beat out an undrafted FA is a bit puzzling. As a backup, Mendenhall had 78 carries for 640 yards (8.2 avg). To me, it seems like a case of just not getting a chance. But if we were to hold players by the same standard, we can only assume that Romo was not as good as Bledsoe, Colombo not as good as Petitti, Barber not as good as Jones, etc.,

As I clearly stated before, I want the player who is the best. Not the one that is simply different and gives the best change of pace. I want a player who can step in for an injured player and have no drop off. If Mendenhall was the higher rated player as the Cowboys FO has said, then take him. Rely on what you have scouted, seen and put down on paper about these prospects rather than simply who will give us a change of pace.

If Jones was the higher rated of the two, then I would have no problem. But it just bugs me we simply are not taking the best available player at a position we draft at.
 

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Silly me for asking this question, but why would you let a guy who spent the day in the war room talk to Mosley and let the world know who you are targeting in the 3rd and 4th round tomorrow?
 
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