Drafting multiple corners...

[Wezsh0T]

I've seen quite a few posts suggesting that we draft multiple corners. I actually think it would be a great idea if we could get good quality. We definitely need a 3rd corner, maybe even a 4th corner, and possibly someone to groom as a safety.

However, when I think of a multiple corner draft, talk of trading down, and reaching for need, I recall the 2000 draft of Dwayne Goodrich, Karreem Larrimore, and Mario Edwards...wow...do you all think Jerry is past that stage?

 

[DawnOfANewD]

I've seen quite a few posts suggesting that we draft multiple corners. I actually think it would be a great idea if we could get good quality. We definitely need a 3rd corner, maybe even a 4th corner, and possibly someone to groom as a safety.

However, when I think of a multiple corner draft, talk of trading down, and reaching for need, I recall the 2000 draft of Dwayne Goodrich, Karreem Larrimore, and Mario Edwards...wow...do you all think Jerry is past that stage?

It's funny how Edwards, the lowest-round pick, turned out to be the best of that bunch.

Perhaps we'll spend a 1st on a corner and instead of using another high pick like a 2nd or 3rd on another, use a lower-round pick like a 6th or 7th hoping we uncover another relatively serviceable guy like Edwards who was a 6th-rounder.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Been saying this for about a month now.. Team needs two starting caliber CB's out of this draft. Looks like were not getting a veteran CB. and with the loss of Killah Keith we need a SS too.

 

[austintodallas]

I don't think we need to draft two on the first day if we plan on signing Pacman. One should be sufficient in that scenario.

 

[Hoofbite]

I would have no problem with drafting 2 CBs if the right players are available.

As long as the team doesn't just reach out their *** for a player, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I could live with a 2nd/3rd round combination of WR and RB if the team was able to get 2 studs at CB.

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't think we need to draft two on the first day if we plan on signing Pacman. One should be sufficient in that scenario.

I think 2 would be required in Dallas gets Pacman. Its only a matter of time before that idiot screws up and is banned for life.

 

[eduncan22]

This is why losing Reeves really hurts this team.

Now, instead of drafting to replace Henry, we have to draft to replace Reeves, also.

Nate isn't that great.

Maybe Ball can play dime this year.

 

[Primetime0201]

I think we should try to grab Chevis Jackson and Justin King. Both are expected to go in the 4th RND. I wouldn't mind grabbing Jordy Nelson in the 3rd and we can most likely get Marion Barber's brother who plays safety as an undrafted FA.
I wouldn't mind picking up packman or Deangelo Hall this off season either. We should also look into a trade for Roy Williams as a solid #2. We could then release Terry Glenn and Maybe Patrick Crayton if Nelson or Stanback can beat him out for the #3 spot. If King or Jackson is ready to jump in now we could trade Henry maybe even package him with Crayton in a trade.
At running back I am split. Part of me wants McFadden and the other part wants to trade down but all the signs are pointing toward DMC so I will support anyone who wears a star.

 

[cowheel]

I've seen quite a few posts suggesting that we draft multiple corners. I actually think it would be a great idea if we could get good quality. We definitely need a 3rd corner, maybe even a 4th corner, and possibly someone to groom as a safety.

However, when I think of a multiple corner draft, talk of trading down, and reaching for need, I recall the 2000 draft of Dwayne Goodrich, Karreem Larrimore, and Mario Edwards...wow...do you all think Jerry is past that stage?

One reason I've been screaming draft 2 CBs in the first is because I know that is what killed this team this past season WITH Reeves.

Now that Reeves is gone... we're in an even worst predicament there. (believe it or not)

Another reason is because of the Goodrich's and Larrimores.
The CB position dries up faster than any other position in my opinion.

By drafting 2 early... similar to what Philly did a few years back... we better our chances of hitting on at least 1 of them.

3rd corner is practically a starter.
Factor in the injury history of Anthony Henry, the ages of he AND Newman, Newman's contract situation, AND the strong possibility that the 1st corner you draft may not be a winner... 4th corner could be very valuable as well.

The CB position could be the difference between us winning a Super Bowl and us making it a 12th straight year without a playoff win.

I'm just a firm believer that unless some stud receiver slips to the bottom of the 1st (if he's a stud - why would he slip?).... one can be found in the 2nd or 3rd.

Same goes for RB.
I just don't see, if we are going to resign Barber, drafting a backup/complimentary RB in the first round when we have such a desperate need at a far more difficult position to fill.

Thats why I'm such an advocate for signing Pac Man.
You KNOW he can play.

Question is... can you trust him?

Given that... if we aquired him - I'd still take a corner in the 1st or 2nd.... just in case.
Then that other 1st or both 1sts could then be used on best player available.

 

[Hoofbite]

This is why losing Reeves really hurts this team.

Now, instead of drafting to replace Henry, we have to draft to replace Reeves, also.

Nate isn't that great.

Maybe Ball can play dime this year.

 

[big dog cowboy]

This is why losing Reeves really hurts this team.

Thanks for the early morning laugh.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Drafting multiple corners...

I've seen quite a few posts suggesting that we draft multiple corners. I actually think it would be a great idea if we could get good quality. We definitely need a 3rd corner, maybe even a 4th corner

Along with RB, I've been on the obtaining multiple players at the CB position bandwagon all off season. Reeves clearly needed replaced and we are thin behind TNew and Henry.

 

[Biggems]

if we were able to get DRC and Cason in the first I would be stoked.....

However, it isnt practical to take 2 CBs in the first.....now if we had two 2s also, then I would do the 2 CBs in the first in a heartbeat.

I'd like to trade down with that 28 and pick up a 2nd and 3rd or a 2nd, 4th, and 6th.....

Then we can get a top CB at 22.....either DRC, Jenkins, or Cason. In the 3rd, with our extra pick, we can go after S Tyrell Johnson. Then in the 4th, with our extra pick, we can grab a Trae Williams or a Justin King. Post-Draft, we can sign CB Scorpio Babers and Jake I. if neither gets drafted. Then we can immediately put Jake on the PUP and allow him a year and a half to get healthy under our rehab team.

Also, we do have Ball and Brown, who are young up-and-comers. Hopefully they will continue to improve and will be able to find consistent spots on the roster and make positive impacts in Nickel, Dime, and ST packages.

IMO our secondary would definitely be upgraded.....

 

[superpunk]

Based on the depth at corner in the draft, I think we'll be really well served to take two corners with our first three picks.

It will be tough to do, but I think it will end up being best for this franchise if we can let Newman walk when his contract is up. Going CB heavy in a class this talented is a great way to give ourselves that flexibility.

 

[AbeBeta]

This is why losing Reeves really hurts this team.

Now, instead of drafting to replace Henry, we have to draft to replace Reeves, also.

Nate isn't that great.

Maybe Ball can play dime this year.

Unlike most people on this board, I agree that keeping Reeves would have been good -- he would give our high draft pick CB some competition for the #3 CB position. However the contract he got from Houston was insane -- had we been able to keep him for half of that, then fine. But 4 mill a year. Puh-lease .

And Henry still is far better than you say.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think it will end up being best for this franchise if we can let Newman walk when his contract is up.

I don't come anywhere close to understanding that.

We all know the most critical positions on a football team and CB is one of them. Allowing a top CB like TNew to walk makes absolutely no sense to me.

You can never have enough good CB's. Especially in this pass happy league.

 

[superpunk]

I don't come anywhere close to understanding that.

We all know the most critical positions on a football team and CB is one of them. Allowing a top CB like TNew to walk makes absolutely no sense to me.

You can never have enough good CB's. Especially in this pass happy league.

For the money I suspect Newman is going to command, on the other side of 30, I think it might be better for the franchise to part ways with him. Philly did it by drafting Brown and Sheppard and replacing Vincent and Taylor. New England did it when they let guys like Law walk, and Milloy (albeit safety). I don't think the reward from having a corner equals the salary they're commanding. I don't think Samuel will make Philly much better. I don't think Clements helped SF all that much.

If we can get a nice, cap-friendly deal to Newman, that will be great. I just doubt that happens - it's gonna take BIG money. And in that case, it's better for the franchise if we prepare ourselves now to let him walk when they time comes. Then, instead of Newman eating up a ton of space, hopefully we have a few corners still on their rookie deals ready to take over for our aging defensive backfield.

Ideally we can have both. Practically, that might not happen.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Listening to sirius radio this morning the Patriots are very high on our boy Cromartie so as i see it, CVromartie and Mckelvin will be long gone before the 22nd pick which leaves us with Jenkins, Talib and Cason. I wanted 2 corner s in the 1st but that won't happen however if we can get a Talib/Cason in the 1st and a Flowers/Porter in the 2nd that could work.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If we can get a nice, cap-friendly deal to Newman, that will be great. I just doubt that happens - it's gonna take BIG money. And in that case, it's better for the franchise if we prepare ourselves now to let him walk when they time comes. Then, instead of Newman eating up a ton of space, hopefully we have a few corners still on their rookie deals ready to take over for our aging defensive backfield.

TNew is going to have his hand out asking for big bucks no doubt. Cap friendly? We'll see.

I'm just not sold at all he can be replaced thru the draft.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm just not sold at all he can be replaced thru the draft.

Me neither.

It's predraft time, and right now every prospect out there is going to be great. But in a few months, the hard reality will hit that a lot of these guys can't play.