Drew Henson: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

[Cochese]

I was just comparing stats, and Jarious friggin Jackson was a better NFLE QB than Henson.

 

[superpunk]

I was just comparing stats

Bingo.

 

[kartr]

and one of the reasons Bledsoe gets knocked in this league because he holds onto the ball too long waiting for things to open up deep, and Tom Brady does well dinking and dunking

Brady does well dinking and dunking because he reads the field quickly, Bledsoe struggles because he's a slow-reader, even though he is 13 year veteran.

 

[superpunk]

Brady does well dinking and dunking because he reads the field quickly, Bledsoe struggles because he's a slow-reader, even though he is 13 year veteran.

I don't think he's slow - as much as he wants to do too much. He'd rather make it happen with his arm, than turn it over to short passes to playmakers with their feet.

Sometimes that's good, alot of the time it hurts.

 

[kartr]

Before I left I said that success in NFLE means nothing but failure is very meaningful. If he failed it would mean there was no way he could be an NFL QB. Henson showed that he could get it done in NFLE AND that he has some areas to improve. That strikes me as a good outcome for a guy who hadn't seen this sort of playing time in many years.

You guys can "Rohan Davey" all day but you can't look at whether guys had success in NFLE but HOW they had success there and with what. Henson played pretty well despite receivers that couldn't catch (one estimate placed it at about 20 drops of clean throws), a WR crew that couldn't stay healthy, and a weak OL.

Don't get hung up on the fact that I said Rohan Davey's name. His name symbolizes that even qb's who do well in NFLE don't necessarily translate into NFL success. You can count the names of those who went on to NFL success on two fingers, that doesn't translate well odds-wise.

 

[superpunk]

You can count the names of those who went on to NFL success on two fingers

Well, that's just not true...Delhomme, Johnson, Warner.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Well, that's just not true...Delhomme, Johnson, Warner.

Thats just QBs. Players like Laroi Glover, Marco Rivera, Dante Hall, Marcus Johnson etc. are plenty full.

 

[kartr]

If you want to measure Henson's ability, think about what would happen if the Boy's released him. He would be scooped up by someone else and immediately be in competition for a starting job. Having the tools necessary to compete is essential, and it has never been said that he doesn't have these.

I enjoyed the analysis, even though I thought it overly critical. Football is the consumate team game. Statistics depend on other people doing their job. It was very obvious that his team mates were below par and that hurt him. His receivers dropped balls and his line ole' blocked.

I don't know if Henson can develope into an elite QB, but I believe he definately has more skills than either Hutchinson or Carter ever showed. I was really surprised with the way he moved in the pocket and scrambled when the pocket broke down. I did not expect to see that watching the games this spring. I knew he had the arm strength, size, etc., but the ability to scramble convinced me he would land somewhere if we cut him, and that he was a true NFL prospect.

You're making several unfounded assumptions. How can Henson compete for a starting job elsewhere when he can't beat out a 'scrub' like Romo. If we released Romo, at best, he might wind up on someone else's practice squad.

I can't believe you think he has more skill than Carter, who was able start and win games as a rookie. Carter outplayed Jeff Garcia and Kerry Collins as a rookie, Steve McNair and Kurt Warner in his second year and Drew Bledsoe,Kerry Collins, Jake Delhomme and Donavin McNabb in his 3rd year. Henson was outplayed by every lousy qb the Bears had, including Chad Hutchinson in his only start. He was so bad that Parcells' was afraid to play him again lest he completely loses his confidence.

 

[Cochese]

You're making several unfounded assumptions. How can Henson compete for a starting job elsewhere when he can't beat out a 'scrub' like Romo. If we released Romo, at best, he might wind up on someone else's practice squad.

I can't believe you think he has more skill than Carter, who was able start and win games as a rookie. Carter outplayed Jeff Garcia and Kerry Collins as a rookie, Steve McNair and Kurt Warner in his second year and Drew Bledsoe,Kerry Collins, Jake Delhomme and Donavin McNabb in his 3rd year. Henson was outplayed by every lousy qb the Bears had, including Chad Hutchinson in his only start. He was so bad that Parcells' was afraid to play him again lest he completely loses his confidence.

If Henson were released some moronic team would pick him up. Hell, we picked up Ryan Leaf. Doesnt mean he was worth a damn.

 

[kartr]

The answer should go back and review the games, counting the number of dropped passes by receivers and also the number of passes that were wisely thrown away.

A QB, even in NFLE, is only as good as those around him. So the best way to judge Henson is to compare him to Chang, who played with the same players...Chang absolutely sucked when he played an entire game. To me, that showed how good Henson actually is.

Not really, Chang is at best, an Arena football qb who has no business in the NFL. Case in point, what round was Chang drafted in.....

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

If Chang is an Arena league QB at best, what is Romo? Chang's college resume is more impressive than Romo's. And the fact is that Henson looked head and shoulders better than Timmy boy.

Simms got his chance because Griese got hurt and Gruden had no choice but to start him. And he had a pretty good offense around him. Who is to say that Henson, or Romo, wouldn't have flourished last year if they were able to get on the field?

 

[fortdick]

You're making several unfounded assumptions. How can Henson compete for a starting job elsewhere when he can't beat out a 'scrub' like Romo. If we released Romo, at best, he might wind up on someone else's practice squad.

I can't believe you think he has more skill than Carter, who was able start and win games as a rookie. Carter outplayed Jeff Garcia and Kerry Collins as a rookie, Steve McNair and Kurt Warner in his second year and Drew Bledsoe,Kerry Collins, Jake Delhomme and Donavin McNabb in his 3rd year. Henson was outplayed by every lousy qb the Bears had, including Chad Hutchinson in his only start. He was so bad that Parcells' was afraid to play him again lest he completely loses his confidence.

You always rise to the bait. Actually, Carter had no where near the skills of Henson, but that is another debate I would never win with you, so I am not going to try, other than to say, Carter had mediocre talent and less brain.

As to whether Henson would get a shot, if Harrington can get a shoot, then Henson can.

 

[Seven]

Brady does well dinking and dunking because he reads the field quickly, Bledsoe struggles because he's a slow-reader, even though he is 13 year veteran.

Only took you 20 posts to think that rebuttal up Kartr. You're good, you.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Only took you 20 posts to think that rebuttal up Kartr. You're good, you.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Brady does well dinking and dunking because he reads the field quickly, Bledsoe struggles because he's a slow-reader, even though he is 13 year veteran.

BLedsoe isn't a slow-reader, he is just waiting for a big play to open up, which he can't do behind horrible lines, adequate ones, yes, as we saw in the San Diego game

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well, that's just not true...Delhomme, Johnson, Warner.

and Delhomme never even lead his team in NFLE, he spent a year as the backup to Warner and split the starting job the next year, and then went on to, I think, spend 2 or 3 years as a backup in Nawlins, now look at him

 

[Waffle]

I may need to take a long shower after saying this, but I tend to agree with most of what "The Answer" and Kartr say about Henson.

I watched every game he played in NFLE (or Theebs Videos on a couple of occasions) and although it is obvious his receiving corp was slightly worse than what the Eagles' fielded the year before they got T.O., I just wasn't all that impressed with him. Yes, he shows "flashes" here and there, but I just don't think he did anything with the Fire to make me say "wow!" He was a hell of a lot better than Hutchinson playing in NFLE, but Hutch was a complete disaster.

I mean no disrespect to many of you when I say that I honestly don't see why Henson gets so much support and praise from those who constantly defend him at every turn. He's merely a 3rd string QB who currently doesn't look like NFL starting material to me.

I'm not saying the guy is a bust, but he sure doesn't appear to be the #1 overall draft equivalent the pundits claimed he was had he not played baseball. If that were the case, he should have dominated over there after being in the league this long. JMHO.

 

[Cochese]

I may need to take a long shower after saying this, but I tend to agree with most of what "The Answer" and Kartr say about Henson.

I watched every game he played in NFLE (or Theebs Videos on a couple of occasions) and although it is obvious his receiving corp was slightly worse than what the Eagles' fielded the year before they got T.O., I just wasn't all that impressed with him. Yes, he shows "flashes" here and there, but I just don't think he did anything with the Fire to make me say "wow!" He was a hell of a lot better than Hutchinson playing in NFLE, but Hutch was a complete disaster.

I mean no disrespect to many of you when I say that I honestly don't see why Henson gets so much support and praise from those who constantly defend him at every turn. He's merely a 3rd string QB who currently doesn't look like NFL starting material to me.

I'm not saying the guy is a bust, but he sure doesn't appear to be the #1 overall draft equivalent the pundits claimed he was had he not played baseball. If that were the case, he should have dominated over there after being in the league this long. JMHO.

You may think Chutch was bad, but he actually completed almost 7% more passes than the golden boy.

 

[Waffle]

You may think Chutch was bad, but he actually completed almost 7% more passes than the golden boy.

That's a pretty amazing stat considering Chutch was repeatedly getting sacked and producing fumbles instead of actually passing the ball.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Waffle, it's not that Henson has impressed us to the point where we feel he could make an impact in the NFL, just that he looked alot better than he did last preseason, and is improving in every facet of the game, and esp. when looking at the things we wanted to see from him before he went to NFLE, and which we felt he did while there, he used his time wisely, and I think he could definitely win the #2 job in camp, but most importantly, he's impressed whose opinion really matters in all of this, Parcells, I wouldnt' say Jerry because Jerry has always had an unusual fascination with him which I dont think will ever be broken, but Parcells saying he has improved is enough for me to feel that he still has a future in Dallas, make no mistake though, he still has a ways to go, but that's why he was given an 8-year deal, and we gave up a 1st day choice for him, but he has improved substantially...