News: Drop Foot. A Death Sentence Or Diluted Talking Point For Jaylon Smith?

Rockport

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I like to buy in to someone with a medical degree and years of familiarity with this injury over some joe schmoe two bit poster cheerleading for their team.

Your negativity for the sake of attention shtick is old.
 

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I need to refresh my "schtick" of relying on qualified medical opinions on medical issues.

Go Cowboys, bro.

It seems you only rely on that when it is to prove a positive outcome. You are one of the fastest quitters around here when things look even a hint bad.

You are the last person I would want to share a foxhole with.
 

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C;mon Fuzzy...we have a ton of direct quotes by Cooper, and recent ones at that...that doesn't take a foreign language interpreter to apply to Smith...directly.

Just for the record, if I have the choice of crying in my beer and listening to a MD who is top of his field...I'll just listen to Doc, and be happy.
Didn't you know Fuzzy is a doctor and has more knowledge than all of us put together?
 

FuzzyLumpkins

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Didn't you know Fuzzy is a doctor and has more knowledge than all of us put together?

Rather than attack me want to discuss specifics?

I've never claimed to be a doctor. I frequently disclaim that I am not in anticipation of people such as yourself. That being said the concepts discussed in this like categories of nerve injuries and the actuarial data, the physiology of nerve repair, or the basic anatomy is not difficult for me.

I cannot speak for how difficult it is for anyone else.

My limit on this subject is the biochemistry involved in reinnervation. There are several doctors, clinicians, etc that are more versed than I. I admit that freely as well.

As for Chao, his prognosis is mutually exclusive with what Jaylon's doctor said. Dr. Cooper said up to 24 mos as opposed to Chao's 12. I've posted medical studies several times at this point that show that nerve regen/innervation is a 2 year proposition although it did say if no function returned in a year to suggest surgical intervention.

That was moot as it appears Jaylon's reinnervation began this winter.

But that is also the thing. I never ever expect people to take me at my word. I always back up my assertions with proof so people can come to their own conclusions.
 

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Right. He's damaged goods. Permanently. Now it's just a question of how far back he can come. 75%-80% might not be enough to be a productive pro. 15%-20% makes him an upgrade over Hitchens.
I've said since we drafted him he'll be about 75% of what we hoped we drafted. Now, that might still be good and probably a upgrade but not what we drafted.
 

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I need to refresh my "schtick" of relying on qualified medical opinions on medical issues.

Go Cowboys, bro.

Isn't one of those opinions from Chao, a disgraced doctor fired by the Chargers, had his medical license suspended for a period and has been known to diagnose from a distance via twitter incorrectly?
 

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Isn't one of those opinions from Chao, a disgraced doctor fired by the Chargers, had his medical license suspended for a period and has been known to diagnose from a distance via twitter incorrectly?

Yes. That guy.
But you know how it is.
Some fans, probably many fans...will believe a hack with no first hand knowledge (doctor or media member) over a well known and respected person with first hand knowledge.
It's a fact of CZ life.
 

FuzzyLumpkins

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That is precisely what you do.

When it comes to predictions involving uncertain situations, no, I do not. Quantum mechanics outlines quite clearly how certainty is a lie.

You sure like to talk about me though. Do you have a point in all this or you just going to try and make the discussion about me as you are wont to do?
 

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It seems like the idea the Cowboys basically stole arguably the best defensive player in the 2016 draft is too good to be true for a lot of fans. They will remain cynical until he actually lines up on the field and starts making plays.

I don't think they want Jaylon to fail, they just don't want to get their hopes too high only to have them crushed. I can understand that.

what they want so bad is not be proven wrong when they claimed he would never play; they want that so bad they would rather he failed. THAT is what it really is about.
 

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Optimistic at this point. Sure there are doubts, just as there are about players coming back from Achilles injuries and the like. Nowadays one must be cautious about being optimistic about a player who has had a few concussions. The hang-up, I think, is the fact Jaylon was and possibly is on the cusp of being permanently limited. But that's more common with football injuries than is obvious. In the football world, virtually every surgery is deemed a "success," but some are more dicey than others. I've never been too concerned with the idea that others haven't come back from his injury at their previous skill level. Medical advances have been exponential. I remember when players rarely returned from ACL surgeries at their previous skill level, and when there was no such thing as Tommy John surgery. Given the marvels of medicine, it's difficult to compare the past to the present.

I don't think anyone knows the extent to which Jaylon will recover. And the idea of players being, say, 80% or 90% of whatever percent is odd. How would one measure the percentage? The bottom line is there is plenty of room for optimism, and as a fan, I don't find it difficult to choose that path. What is the good of being a fan if I torture myself with what-ifs? I can spend plenty of time doing that in my day-to-day life. That said I don't think this is unreasonable optimism. Contrary to what some have said, the Cowboys have released quite a lot about Jaylon's recovery, and for several months now it has been quite positive.

We'll all find out. Play ball.
 

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I think the latest article from the newspaper that shall not be named, provided some encouraging news. His nerves have begun to regenerate at a very fast level. It sounds as if he's continued to improve week after week.

It's a shame we won't be able to get any reports on him until June.
 

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there is no way smith will be on the field in practice during ota's so the public can see his true progress jerry Is in the business of selling hope
 

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I think the latest article from the newspaper that shall not be named, provided some encouraging news. His nerves have begun to regenerate at a very fast level. It sounds as if he's continued to improve week after week.

It's a shame we won't be able to get any reports on him until June.

Yes. We also learned he will have to use the brace for the time being, which is what many said weeks ago but were told there is no way we could know that.

I think it was pretty obvious from the comments coming out of Cowboys land that while they were seeing improvements in Smith, he was still needing the brace to conduct some workouts.
 
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