DT and Dez debate

[RoyTheHammer]

One has the best QB in history throwing him the ball, the other has an average QB throwing him the ball, yet still puts up huge numbers. Give me Dez.

lol

Now we're cutting down our franchise QB to try and defend another of our players.

Good stuff.. only Cowboys fans.

 

[AsthmaField]

Dez is a serious beast.
But when you said Dez is clearly better than Thomas "by a long shot", it tells me that you may be guilty of what you are accusing them. I say this politely.

Thomas is huge, fast, strong, and had a40 inch vertical.
He too is very beastly.

I prefer Dez. But it is not a huge mismatch.

It is possible that I'm underestimating DT, but he has never really impressed me that much. He seemed more like a good athlete than receiver, although I do know he had a good season last year.

You may be right but I can honestly say that if neither guy was playing for Dallas, I would think Dez is a better WR by a pretty wide margin. That's not saying I am 100% right... only that it is how I truly feel.

 

[Risen Star]

Two absolute beasts. Dez can dominate the game more than DT. But really, this is one of those comparisons where you feel you are slighting whoever you don't pick.

 

[Sampson]

I'd take Dez

 

[Muhast]

This is one of those rare cases where either player was a good pick. It usually doesn't work like this, but every once in a while, it works out for both teams.

Both players can play at a high level. I think Dez can take over a game, and Thomas can't, but Thomas will still likely get 1200 or so yards a year. Health is a huge concern for him.

Dez has the character issues in the past, although he seems to be at a better place now, can't knock them for passing on him after how Brandon Marshall left.

 

[tyke1doe]

During the offseason last year, I said DT was better than Dez. Now, Dez is probably better in that he has been Romo's reliable, go-to receiver whereas DT is lost in the receiver mix in Denver as Peyton likes to spread it around.

However, I'm worried that Dez may mess it up at some point. And that's the thing about guys like him. I believe Dez's playmaking ability is beyond DT's. But I just never know when Dez will do something off the field or even on it (a misplaced burst of anger) that will cost him or the Cowboys.

You cross your fingers and hope he's grown up, but sometimes, if not often, guys with character issues always have those issues resurface to derail their careers.

 

[Risen Star]

During the offseason last year, I said DT was better than Dez. Now, Dez is probably better in that he has been Romo's reliable, go-to receiver whereas DT is lost in the receiver mix in Denver as Peyton likes to spread it around.

However, I'm worried that Dez may mess it up at some point. And that's the thing about guys like him. I believe Dez's playmaking ability is beyond DT's. But I just never know when Dez will do something off the field or even on it (a misplaced burst of anger) that will cost him or the Cowboys.

You cross your fingers and hope he's grown up, but sometimes, if not often, guys with character issues always have those issues resurface to derail their careers.

It's a legitimate concern. Much credit to Dez for where he is right now. He's in the process of proving the Cowboys right. But you do have to worry. I think a real hurdle for him may be signing a huge contract extension and how he handles that.

 

[perrykemp]

It's a legitimate concern. Much credit to Dez for where he is right now. He's in the process of proving the Cowboys right. But you do have to worry. I think a real hurdle for him may be signing a huge contract extension and how he handles that.

Are the "Dez Rules" still in place? Does he still have a team of man-sitters keeping him out of trouble?

 

[Risen Star]

Are the "Dez Rules" still in place? Does he still have a team of man-sitters keeping him out of trouble?

No clue. I haven't heard a thing about it since they started it.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

During the offseason last year, I said DT was better than Dez. Now, Dez is probably better in that he has been Romo's reliable, go-to receiver whereas DT is lost in the receiver mix in Denver as Peyton likes to spread it around.

However, I'm worried that Dez may mess it up at some point. And that's the thing about guys like him. I believe Dez's playmaking ability is beyond DT's. But I just never know when Dez will do something off the field or even on it (a misplaced burst of anger) that will cost him or the Cowboys.

You cross your fingers and hope he's grown up, but sometimes, if not often, guys with character issues always have those issues resurface to derail their careers.

I don't know how you can say DT is "lost in the receiver mix" after the monster season he put up last year. He's clearly Peyton's favorite guy to throw to.. and for very good reason.

 

[DFWJC]

Headline on NFL.com

Dez Bryant vs Demaryius Thomas: Which WR shines better?


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-vs-demaryius-thomas-which-wr-shines-brighter


There was lot in there, but here is his conclusion:


"Conclusion

The comparison between Thomas and Bryant is as close as any I've made since starting the "Who's Better?" series a year ago.

Both players have developed into Pro Bowl-caliber threats who are on the verge of joining the ranks of the elite at their position.


While Thomas has certainly earned the respect of his peers and fans, as evidenced by his pro Bowl selection, I believe
Bryant is the better overall player at this point. He is a dominant playmaker with all of the tools that scouts covet in a No. 1 receiver. Now, he still needs to take his game to another level, but he has started to show signs of being a transcendent superstar. I think he'll emerge as a top-five player this season.
That certainly doesn't diminish the ascension of Thomas to the upper echelon of NFL receivers, but the fact that Eric Decker also enjoyed a phenomenal season with Manning under center suggests that the Broncos' quarterback and his system are chiefly responsible for the receivers' production. If Thomas continues to string spectacular seasons together, he will get the recognition he deserves. But if I had to build a passing game around either Bryant or Thomas right now, I would opt for Bryant."

Bucky Brooks

 

[Nova]

Are the "Dez Rules" still in place? Does he still have a team of man-sitters keeping him out of trouble?

Unless we're talking about something completely different the "Dez rules" weren't even a real, concrete thing.

There was a 'shape up or ship out' talk, but I'm pretty sure the list 'leaked' to the media was proven to be a fabrication literally days after the story broke.

 

[Nova]

If you watch tape I think it's fairly obvious which player is the better of the two. That's not a knock on Thomas, Bryant just clearly passes the eye test better.

Bryant just has a better nose for the ball and is a much more fluid athlete. And despite being more fluid and being smaller, he plays with more power and a tenacity that Thomas doesn't seem to have.

Thomas is a fantastic player, but Bryant really is something else.

 

[Ren]

If what we got late last season is what we can expect from Dez then it's not even a contest, Dez is top 3 in the league playing like that

 

[RoyTheHammer]

If what we got late last season is what we can expect from Dez then it's not even a contest, Dez is top 3 in the league playing like that

I really think some of you must either not watch Denver hardly at all or something, but those saying its "Dez, no contest" really should watch more of what DT can do and how much ability he really has. Its alot closer than you think, imo.

Dez had 4 100 yard receiving games last year and a 200 yard game.. and also 95 and 98 yard games with two TD's each.

DT had 7 100 yard games last year, with a 99 yard game also with 2 TD's. He also was the more consistently productive receiver over the course of the season, but again.. both can completely dominate games at any time and both have elite physical abilities.

 

[Ren]

I really think some of you must either not watch Denver hardly at all or something, but those saying its "Dez, no contest" really should watch more of what DT can do and how much ability he really has. Its alot closer than you think, imo.

Carefully read what i wrote again...

I never said Dez was better then DT i say IF what we got from Dez late last season is what we can't expect then going forward then it it really is no contest. Dez was better down the stretch then pretty much any WR in the game including DT

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Carefully read what i wrote again...

I never said Dez was better then DT i say IF what we got from Dez late last season is what we can't expect then going forward then it it really is no contest. Dez was better down the stretch then pretty much any WR in the game including DT

Yardage-wise.. i think they were pretty similar over the last half of the season. DT had 3 100 yard games, and Dez had 2 100 yard games and a 200 yard game. I think where Dez set himself apart as far as their second halves was with how many TD catches he had. He was a TD machine down the stretch last year, no doubt.

I think both of those guys are top 5 receivers next year.. i don't see Dez being able to keep up that kind of TD pace over the entire season though. He'd be up in the 18 to 20 TD's range if he did.

 

[bsheeern]

I was just making a point. When looking at their overall numbers and saying its not even close, you have to realize Dez has had Romo to throw to him all three years, whereas DT has battled some injuries and also dealt with Tim Tebow as his QB last year, and Orten before that.. so not quite the same there.

I think its close, im glad we have Dez though.

No he didn't. Remember Kitna? Romo was hurt.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

No he didn't. Remember Kitna? Romo was hurt.

Good catch.. i stand corrected.

 

[boscokt]

I wouldn't trade Dez for DT and a first round pick

This ware vs merriman all over again. One will clearly distance themselves from the other and it will be Dez