DT Timmy Jernigan to visit Cowboys

[noletime95]

LOL at Jernigan being unable to play a 3-technique. He's going to be an all pro caliber DT and yeah, he can clog the middle. But he can get after the QB too.

 

[waving monkey]

I'll bet you a like that Jernigan is not there at 26.

If that's too rich for you blood I would completely understand.

Jerrigan is a better player then mid-twenties slot.
how do we know where Dallas has jerrigan slotted

 

[SportsGuru80]

2nd round sounds about right for him...

 

[Gaede]

I think his value would be around 18-20.

 

[Alexander]

I think his value would be around 18-20.

I think it is tough to evaluate where a player will go unless you feel they are definite top 15. With the way the draft is now and the 5th year option, you will see teams trading into the first and taking players, especially QBs, higher than they would because they can use that extra year. While I think Jernigan is a good enough player at his position to deserve a first round choice, he might just slip into the second if teams make a mad rush at the end of the first night to get into the opening round.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

Broaddus is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, we get awesome access to a Cowboys 'insider' on Twitter and get some really good insights.

On the other, he is the only 'insider' we have access to--so he's become the only opinion that some seek, though his opinions are 100% his own. As a result, some players have become afterthoughts among fans merely because Broaddus doesn't believe they fit.

Jernigan is one of the those guys that Broaddus will not budge on--that's he's a 1 and the Cowboys won't use a first on him. However, this is HIS opinion and fans need to be open to the possibility that he's wrong.

Really good point. The devils advocate side is that Broaddus doesn't only state his opinion, he also relays some insider tidbits, as you mention. I don't think it was purely his opinion that we view Jernigan as a 1T. He got that word from a trigger puller and passed it along.

Another example is his take on Barr. For weeks his opinion was that Barr should play SAM then move to RDE in the nickel. About a week ago that tune changed, and he's now stated many times that the team thinks Barr is a full-time DE in our scheme.

I don't take what he says as gospel, but I do believe we see Jernigan as a 1T and are therefore unlikely to draft him at 16.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

I can find highlights of a 7th round player and you would say take him at 16. They are called highlights for a reason.

Yes, thank you. I don't want to jump down anyone's throat, but highlights watching is pretty much the least sophisticated way to form an opinion on a prospect.

Yes, over 3 years Jernigan made some really great plays for FSU. I promise you Will Sutton's highlight reel would make you question why he's not an option at 16.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Broaddus is a blessing and a curse. On one hand, we get awesome access to a Cowboys 'insider' on Twitter and get some really good insights.

On the other, he is the only 'insider' we have access to--so he's become the only opinion that some seek, though his opinions are 100% his own. As a result, some players have become afterthoughts among fans merely because Broaddus doesn't believe they fit.

Jernigan is one of the those guys that Broaddus will not budge on--that's he's a 1 and the Cowboys won't use a first on him. However, this is HIS opinion and fans need to be open to the possibility that he's wrong.

No no no no

It is not HIS opinion.

HE likes him and thinks he can play both 1 and 3. That is His opinion.

What he has said multiple times is that it is THEIR (the coaches) opinion that they see Jernigan as a 1 and not a 3.

Just need to make that clear because saying it is his opinion is incorrect.

If you listen to broaddus enough you will here him say things like...It is my opinion or I get the feeling that they blah blah blah. When I hear him say those things I take them with a grain of salt.

However when he says things in an adamant way and makes it clear that it is what he has heard from the coaches or scouts...I put more stock in it.

 

[Alexander]

However when he says things in an adamant way and makes it clear that it is what he has heard from the coaches or scouts...I put more stock in it.

I would but every now and again he will tweet he walks by the scouts in the hallway every day and they do not speak to him.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I would but every now and again he will tweet he walks by the scouts in the hallway every day and they do not speak to him.

When he is adamant about something...I listen. I am pretty sure he heard something to be that adamant about it and not a case of walking by the room and them not talking to him.

I will also say that there has been times where he has been at pro days and have talked to scouts at that time as well. I remember that happening with the Alabama pro day last year.

 

[TheSport78]

I agree with the Cowboys. I can see him playing the 1, 0 or 5 tech. He is NOT a 3 tech.

 

[Gaede]

When he is adamant about something...I listen. I am pretty sure he heard something to be that adamant about it and not a case of walking by the room and them not talking to him.

I will also say that there has been times where he has been at pro days and have talked to scouts at that time as well. I remember that happening with the Alabama pro day last year.

That is true, and kind of proves my point (though I didn't make it well). What I am saying is that, while Broaddus does have inside info/whispers, some fans confuse these as gospel directly from the coaches and completely write guys off. We need to exercise caution in subscribing to his info because, as with all draft fans, coaches and scouts do a lot of flip flopping. Their opinions can be fluid, just like ours. I wouldn't dismiss a player because Broaddus said the team said something about them 2 months ago.

His drastic change of opinion in Ealy, for example.

So what I am saying is that, the team may view Jernigan as a 1...but like him enough to use a first on him. And Broaddus may not know the second part of that until closer to the draft. So we still need to consider all options despite what Broaddus has said in the past.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Jernigan could very well be this years Travis Frederick. If they view him as a 1, then they may have a high 2nd round grade on him. But they wouldn't be adverse to taking him at the end of round 1 if they traded down.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

That is true, and kind of proves my point (though I didn't make it well). What I am saying is that, while Broaddus does have inside info/whispers, some fans confuse these as gospel directly from the coaches and completely write guys off. We need to exercise caution in subscribing to his info because, as with all draft fans, coaches and scouts do a lot of flip flopping. Their opinions can be fluid, just like ours. I wouldn't dismiss a player because Broaddus said the team said something about them 2 months ago.

His drastic change of opinion in Ealy, for example.

So what I am saying is that, the team may view Jernigan as a 1...but like him enough to use a first on him. And Broaddus may not know the second part of that until closer to the draft. So we still need to consider all options despite what Broaddus has said in the past.

Ding, ding, ding... Well put.

Here are some recent highlights from Broaddus, backed by some degree of whispers and tidbits from inside Valley Ranch:
- Team sees Barr as a full-time DE. Fair to say that he and Donald sit atop the "realistic board."
- Speculation, but seems to me that someone tipped him off that we like Ealy's potential as a RDE/3T combo player.
- Mosley won't be the guy. Knee and other injuries are a big concern.
- Team sees Jernigan as a 1T, and history shows us we will not draft a 1T in the 1st round. First part he's been told flat out. Second part is just dot-connecting, since we passes on Floyd last year for that reason. Doesn't 100% mean we wouldn't draft a 1T this year.
- We are highly unlikely to look at S's in the 1st, since we want to see out our investments already there.

 

[Nirvana]

A 1 tech who can get qb pressure? Sign me up. 1st round grade. Hayden needs to go and McClain is not going to be disruptive enough.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

A 1 tech who can get qb pressure? Sign me up. 1st round grade. Hayden needs to go and McClain is not going to be disruptive enough.

How do you know? There are some that really like his potential, and have called him exactly what you've dubbed Jernigan... an athletic 1T who can generate some pressure.

Agree with Hayden though. He's a JAG.

 

[Nirvana]

How do you know? There are some that really like his potential, and have called him exactly what you've dubbed Jernigan... an athletic 1T who can generate some pressure.

Agree with Hayden though. He's a JAG.

His resume shows little in the way of QB pressure. That could change of course. But I like the idea of Jernigan much better. The idea of a 1st round 1 tech has grown on me. I am betting it has with the Cowboys as well. Actually the proof is in the fact he was invited to Valley Ranch.

 

[Nirvana]

Gotta love the bold move wearing Cowboys gear in his avi. This guy wants to be a Cowboy. +1

 

[Nirvana]

 

[Nirvana]