DT Timmy Jernigan to visit Cowboys

[DBOY3141]

Does anyone remember if Floyd visited last year? If not, and they are meeting with Jernigan, then maybe they don't view them as the same type of player.

 

[unionjack8]

Does anyone remember if Floyd visited last year? If not, and they are meeting with Jernigan, then maybe they don't view them as the same type of player.

good point

 

[Alexander]

Bothers me he is already sucking up to Hatcher.

 

[DoctorChicken]

C'mon guys, watch some tape.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-pittsburgh-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-boston-college-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-florida-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-north-carolina-state-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-auburn-2013/

You cannot watch these and honestly tell me he doesn't have trouble getting off blocks and rushing the QB.

Is he great in the run game? Yes. Is he going to consistently get after the QB, generate pressure and collapse the pocket? No.

I just don't see us using our 1st on him.

 

[tm1119]

C'mon guys, watch some tape.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-pittsburgh-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-boston-college-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-florida-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-north-carolina-state-2013/

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/timmy-jernigan-vs-auburn-2013/

You cannot watch these and honestly tell me he doesn't have trouble getting off blocks and rushing the QB.

Is he great in the run game? Yes. Is he going to consistently get after the QB, generate pressure and collapse the pocket? No.

I just don't see us using our 1st on him.

Maybe it had something to do with the scheme he played in not asking him to get after the QB? He played a ton of read and react which means his 1st step was rarely towards the QB. Jernigan is plenty athletic and probably has the best hand use of any DT in this draft. Just because he didn't compile sacks in college doesn't mean his skill set doesn't translate to the nfl. The only question on Jernigan in my opinion is his arm length which is less than ideal.

 

[xwalker]

Maybe it had something to do with the scheme he played in not asking him to get after the QB? He played a ton of read and react which means his 1st step was rarely towards the QB. Jernigan is plenty athletic and probably has the best hand use of any DT in this draft. Just because he didn't compile sacks in college doesn't mean his skill set doesn't translate to the nfl. The only question on Jernigan in my opinion is his arm length which is less than ideal.

My issue with Jernigan is that I really like several mid and late round DTs. I can't say that about some positions especially DE.

 

[tm1119]

My issue with Jernigan is that I really like several mid and late round DTs. I can't say that about some positions especially DE.

I agree with that. Reid, Thornton, Uko, Bromley, Gaston, Stephen, Kerr, Bishop, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting are all really good fits as rotation players in our scheme. If we don't go DT in round 1 I would have no problem waiting until the 4th to address the position because of the depth this year.

If both Donald and Barr go in the top 15 picks (which is very likely) who else is there? Even though I disagree, I dont think safety is in play and Mosely seems to be sliding down everyone's board. Is there anyone else left on the defensive side of the ball that makes any sense? Obviously trading down would be ideal situation but that could be easier said than done this year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I agree with that. Reid, Thornton, Uko, Bromley, Gaston, Stephen, Kerr, Bishop, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting are all really good fits as rotation players in our scheme. If we don't go DT in round 1 I would have no problem waiting until the 4th to address the position because of the depth this year.

If both Donald and Barr go in the top 15 picks (which is very likely) who else is there? Even though I disagree, I dont think safety is in play and Mosely seems to be sliding down everyone's board. Is there anyone else left on the defensive side of the ball that makes any sense? Obviously trading down would be ideal situation but that could be easier said than done this year.

I'd consider Will Sutton in the 3rd round. I think the kid would be a good choice to spell Melton and he could also play some #1 technique.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree with that. Reid, Thornton, Uko, Bromley, Gaston, Stephen, Kerr, Bishop, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting are all really good fits as rotation players in our scheme. If we don't go DT in round 1 I would have no problem waiting until the 4th to address the position because of the depth this year.

If both Donald and Barr go in the top 15 picks (which is very likely) who else is there? Even though I disagree, I dont think safety is in play and Mosely seems to be sliding down everyone's board. Is there anyone else left on the defensive side of the ball that makes any sense? Obviously trading down would be ideal situation but that could be easier said than done this year.

Gilbert, Nix and Tuitt all make sense IMO.

There are a slew of Offensive players that would potentially be pushed down that could make sense as well.

 

[bodi]

DUDE I could care less what a X scout says let alone a writer

if he's there at 16 an we pass on him

we have sorry scouts

the kid is a player the type we need - IMO

 

[supercowboy8]

glad your not our GM - and is the guy to dumb to play 3 Tech

it a move of like 3 feet - does that diminish his HUSTLE

sorry dude he will not fall -IMO

Good thing your not the gM. Jernigan will fall. It's not being able to play the 3. It's about being able to play the 3 the way marinelli wants.
They passed on Floyd last year and he was better than jernigan.

 

[supercowboy8]

DUDE I could care less what a X scout says let alone a writer

if he's there at 16 an we pass on him

we have sorry scouts

the kid is a player the type we need - IMO

Again glad your not the gm. Understand the scheme this team runs. He is a 1 tech only in dallas.

 

[xwalker]

I'd consider Will Sutton in the 3rd round. I think the kid would be a good choice to spell Melton and he could also play some #1 technique.

He looks like a Drake Nevis clone to me. Short arms and not fast enough at the 3 and not strong enough at the 1.

 

[Gaede]

Sutton's probably my favourite DT in this draft. I think he's very underrated around here.

 

[tm1119]

Sutton is a pass rushing DT who isn't particularly quick, strong, and might have the shortest arms of any DT in the NFL. He's going to get engulfed by NFL guards.

 

[bodi]

Good thing your not the gM. Jernigan will fall. It's not being able to play the 3. It's about being able to play the 3 the way marinelli wants.
They passed on Floyd last year and he was better than jernigan.

he was huh ?

He was brought in for a visit along with Barr. They wouldn't have done that unless they were serious about him as a possibility

 

[supercowboy8]

he was huh ?

He was brought in for a visit along with Barr. They wouldn't have done that unless they were serious about him as a possibility

That's the stupidest think I ever heard. They also brought in players that are 2nd to 7th round players.

Just because they brought him means they think he is worth the 16th pick

 

[bodi]

that's the stupidest thing I ever heard - oh I get your just a hater

that's fine

WHATEVER DUDE

 

[bodi]

I still have him tied as the best defensive tackle in this draft. The pass rush still remains the biggest need on this team and Timmy compliments Melton well as the 1 tech,

but I believe he is athletic enough to play the 3 tech in the Tampa 2 as well. In all of my film study, Jernigan brought the most nasty to the game and that’s what this defense is lacking.

This team needs a big nasty DT that can collapse the pocket.

 

[RS12]

How do you know? There are some that really like his potential, and have called him exactly what you've dubbed Jernigan... an athletic 1T who can generate some pressure.

Agree with Hayden though. He's a JAG.

Belicheat cut McClain in a week. Speaks volumes IMO.