Dustin Vaughn and the Dearth of NFL QBs

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Winter is coming for NFL personnel evaluators at the game's most valuable position. Quarterbacks have always been hard to find, but these days, they're a needle in a sea of haystacks.

High school and college football is ruining the position for the NFL. Permanently perched in the shotgun in simplistic, check-with-me, one-read offenses that require virtually no defensive understanding or brain power is leaving NFL general managers scratching their heads at what to do. Not only is it ugly to watch, it simply doesn't work against NFL-caliber defensive players. You have to be able to work under center and read defenses in the NFL, and these blokes can't.

This year, suddenly drafting running backs became in vogue again, and offensive linemen seem to be gaining in value early, too. Some think teams like Dallas started that trend, but I think growing frustration and hopelessness with today's young quarterbacks played a bigger role. Teams have to run because they can't pass.

The whole thing makes the Dustin Vaughn approach Dallas is taking look pretty smart.

Who are tomorrow's great quarterbacks? Aside from Andrew Luck, name me a good, young QB in the NFL that looks like he's headed for the all-time great list.

I'm not buying Russell Wilson so much, and neither are the Seahawks apparently. He's a bus driver for a team built on smothering defense and running the football. He was awful against Green Bay before that last heave. He looked woefully inept compared to Romo. He has his moments, so I'll give him a half a nod, but he looks terribly uncomfortable in the pocket, where real NFL quarterbacks play.

Collin Kaepernick is imploding. RG3 is a lost puppy. Alex Smith can't throw to wide receivers. Geno Smith is just winging it. Cam Newton hasn't developed at all. Mark Sanchez is scared. Sam Bradford was bad before he was hurt. Jay Cutler has checked out. And then there's Freeman, Ponder, Manziel, Cousins, Barkley, McNown, Gabbert, Clausen, Quinn, Locker, Mallett, and on and on it goes.

And on queue, this year's draft produced nothing but project QBs. I think Winston and Mariotta are going to bust, too.

Honestly, could Vaughn be any more far-fetched than these guys?

It's laughable how teams are unloading the cash vault for guys like Andy Dalton and Ryan Tannehill because the chasm out there is just too scary not to. The mere glimmers shown by Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr will probably make them billionaires soon, too, and Blake Bortles need only be "meh" to get his. The resume of work isn't as important as the lack of alternative. Seattle will have to do it with Wilson eventually.

It's easy not to notice because the league still features some high-powered offenses and lots of scoring thanks to Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Romo, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Ryan, Rivers, and the Manning boys. But do you notice anything about that list? Yep, they're getting up there.

Something's got to give somewhere. College football has to start playing real football again, not the chuck-it-in-a-nanosecond filth we suffer through on Saturdays. It looks like Tecmo Bowl. High schools should do the same, but they won't. (Why would an NFL team hire a college coach anymore?)

Quarterbacks are the lifeblood of the NFL, and the supply on the way looks weaker by the year.

So bring on Dustin Vaughn. He has as good a chance as any. That's sad to say out loud, but it's true.
 
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Winter is coming for NFL personnel evaluators at the game's most valuable position. Quarterbacks have always been hard to find, but these days, they're a needle in a sea of haystacks.

High school and college football is ruining the position for the NFL. Permanently perched in the shotgun in simplistic, check-with-me, one-read offenses that require virtually no defensive understanding or brain power is leaving NFL general managers scratching their heads at what to do. Not only is it ugly to watch, it simply doesn't work against NFL-caliber defensive players. You have to be able to work under center and read defenses in the NFL, and these blokes can't.

This year, suddenly drafting running backs became en vogue again, and offensive linemen seem to be gaining in value early, too. Some think teams like Dallas started that trend, but I think growing frustration and hopelessness with today's young quarterbacks played a bigger role. Teams have to run because they can't pass.

The whole thing makes the Dustin Vaughn approach Dallas is taking look pretty smart.

Who are tomorrow's great quarterbacks? Aside from Andrew Luck, name me a good, young QB in the NFL that looks like he's headed for the all-time great list.

I'm not buying Russell Wilson so much, and neither are the Seahawks apparently. He's a bus driver for a team built on smothering defense and running the football. He was awful against Green Bay before that last heave. He looked woefully inept compared to Romo. He has his moments, so I'll give him a half a nod, but he looks terribly uncomfortable in the pocket, where real NFL quarterbacks play.

Collin Kaepernick is imploding. RG3 is a lost puppy. Alex Smith can't throw to wide receivers. Geno Smith is just winging it. Cam Newton hasn't developed at all. Mark Sanchez is scared. Sam Bradford was bad before he was hurt. Jay Cutler has checked out. And then there's Freeman, Ponder, Manziel, Cousins, Barkley, McNown, Gabbert, Clausen, Quinn, Locker, Mallett, and on and on it goes.

And on queue, this year's draft produced nothing but project QBs. I think Winston and Mariotta are going to bust, too.

Honestly, could Vaughn be any more far-fetched than these guys?

It's laughable how teams are unloading the cash vault for guys like Andy Dalton and Ryan Tannehill because the chasm out there is just too scary not to. The mere glimmers shown by Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr will probably make them billionaires soon, too, and Blake Bortles need only be "meh" to get his. The resume of work isn't as important as the lack of alternative. Seattle will have to do it with Wilson eventually.

It's easy not to notice because the league still features some high-powered offenses and lots of scoring thanks to Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Romo, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Ryan, Rivers, and the Manning boys. But do you notice anything about that list? Yep, they're getting up there.

Something's got to give somewhere. College football has to start playing real football again, not the chuck-it-in-a-nanosecond filth we suffer through on Saturdays. It looks like Tecmo Bowl. High schools should do the same, but they won't. (Why would an NFL team hire a college coach anymore?)

Quarterbacks are the lifeblood of the NFL, and the supply on the way looks weaker by the year.

So bring on Dustin Vaughn. He has as good a chance as any. That's sad to say out loud, but it's true.

I agree with this. I also think because of it that it is important to having good coaching for these young QB and not play them day 1. I think many of these guys can develop into good QB but they are rushed into the lineup and not ready to face a true NFL defense.
 

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I agree with this. I also think because of it that it is important to having good coaching for these young QB and not play them day 1. I think many of these guys can develop into good QB but they are rushed into the lineup and not ready to face a true NFL defense.

Rushing them is certainly not helping the situation for sure.

It's mind-boggling that they're having to literally spend time with these kids to teach them how to properly take a snap from center. Most of them didn't even do it on the one-yard line in college.

Can you see Norv Turner? "OK, Teddy, this is how you hold your hands."
 

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There really isn't much out there. I keep screaming for Dallas to draft a QB and develop him, but exactly who are they going to spend a draft pick on Joe Bobby?
 

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Dearth of QBs is product of spread offense in college. College football is like a video game. NFL not so much.
 

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Rushing them is certainly not helping the situation for sure.

It's mind-boggling that they're having to literally spend time with these kids to teach them how to properly take a snap from center. Most of them didn't even do it on the one-yard line in college.

Can you see Norv Turner? "OK, Teddy, this is how you hold your hands."

I agree, but that part can be taught it can all be taught if a team is willing to take some time with these young guys.
 

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Funny how being constantly below any bell curve, Jerry is continually looking smarter and smarter. Just don't go and figure...:grin:
 

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You look at most of the top QB they do damage to a defense with their arm not their feet. So many of these young guy revert back to being college QB using their rushing ability and sadly some teams seem to cater to it instead of developing. Yes short term many of them will have success they also tend to fade quicker since all they have his the ability to run and when teams figure how to slow that down and actually make the guy play QB many start to struggle. When Vick came into the league so many told me he would revolutionize the QB position yet to me he has never been nothing more than a glorified RB
 

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Great article. Vaughn is definately one I will be watching this summer. It would be soooooo nice ot have someone who would be ready to step in when Romo finally retires.

Also, now you know why Weeden is on the team. Getting proper coaching does wonders sometimes. He has some skills but going to QB hell stunted his career. Not sure I see him ever becoming a long term starter in this league but at least he can step in for a game or two if needed.

Overall the Cowboys are in good shape at QB. That conclusion could be upgraded (or downgraded) after this summer and peseason.
 

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Dearth of QBs is product of spread offense in college. College football is like a video game. NFL not so much.

I cant watch it anymore. It really is Tecmo Bowl.

-- I loved Tecmo Bowl, even though our league had to implement the nose guard Rule, for guys like John Randle, etc etc. When they were "green", you could stuff every play by diving at the QB.

Wasn't much we could do about Jerry Rice catching touchdowns 10 yards out of bounds...
 

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EDIT: I probably should have given Matt Stafford some love. He's a decent QB.
 

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You look at most of the top QB they do damage to a defense with their arm not their feet. So many of these young guy revert back to being college QB using their rushing ability and sadly some teams seem to cater to it instead of developing. Yes short term many of them will have success they also tend to fade quicker since all they have his the ability to run and when teams figure how to slow that down and actually make the guy play QB many start to struggle. When Vick came into the league so many told me he would revolutionize the QB position yet to me he has never been nothing more than a glorified RB

Very true, and those guys that take off get absolutely blasted. Then they shrink like lilies. It happened to RG3, and Manziel got clocked already in the limited action he saw.

The defensive players in the NFL are no joke. You're not going to "athlete" your way around the field. You've got to do it with your brain.
 

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I am so glad RGIII imploded. Yeah, it will get blamed on injuries, when its really about him as a QB. I just dont like him. The Commanders fans started calling him RG "Me" and it fits. He is all about him and his money. And he is smug about it. I cant stand him. I am glad the Skins have to deal with him...
 

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Very true, and those guys that take off get absolutely blasted. Then they shrink like lilies. It happened to RG3, and Manziel got clocked already in the limited action he saw.

The defensive players in the NFL are no joke. You're not going to "athlete" your way around the field. You've got to do it with your brain.

True, mobility is one thing. Romo is mobile but he is not looking to take off on the run he is looking to buy time to attack the defense. Rodger is good and will take off when there is open space in front of him but as we all know Rodger is dangerous from the pocket that is where he makes his living. Same with Brady, his running skills is not going to scare many defenses but his ability to read a defense and quick release has made him a HOF QB
 

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College ball has become a chore to watch. Gone are the days of the prototypical strong-armed QB who beats you with his grit and will. Now, they rely on gimmicks and their legs. There has always been those type of QB's, but the numbers have grown rapidly. Who was the last team to win a title with a run-first QB? I don't count Wilson due to that defense..............

Hopefully, this is a trend that dies soon but it will need to be addressed in HS and College, not when they are drafted.....it is a bit too late to start then.
 

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Funny how being constantly below any bell curve, Jerry is continually looking smarter and smarter. Just don't go and figure...:grin:

oh stop it, Dallas has been horrible with the Qb situatuon from Aikman to Romo and our backs have not really been solid since the days of Garrett.
 

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College ball has become a chore to watch. Gone are the days of the prototypical strong-armed QB who beats you with his grit and will. Now, they rely on gimmicks and their legs. There has always been those type of QB's, but the numbers have grown rapidly. Who was the last team to win a title with a run-first QB? I don't count Wilson due to that defense..............

Hopefully, this is a trend that dies soon but it will need to be addressed in HS and College, not when they are drafted.....it is a bit too late to start then.

Have you seen enough bubble screens and read options for a lifetime?

I certainly have.
 

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Anybody but..
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One of the biggest reasons why I'm not willing to let Romo ride off into the sunset so quickly.

Outside of Luck and maybe Wilson, there aren't many future elite QBs in this generation.
 

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One of the biggest reasons why I'm not willing to let Romo ride off into the sunset so quickly.

Outside of Luck and maybe Wilson, there aren't many future elite QBs in this generation.

how many solid back ups are there?
 
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