Dustin Vaughn Future Starter, Backup or waste of a roster spot?

[Vinnie2u]

I'm kinda curious what the Ranch thinks about this guy.. I've heard zero about him since training camp. If a guy like Hundley or Petty is available in the 2nd does Jerry say we're set at QB lets get another TE.. We struck free agent gold with Romo is Vaughn being groomed?

 

[Doomsday101]

I think it is too early to know what Vaughn will or will not do. I also do not think him being here will have anything to do with Dallas getting a QB in the draft or not.

 

[jazzcat22]

You lost me at the TE comment....it adds no value to a good question....

If a QB is there, take him, no matter what.
I think they like what they see in Vaughan, but still need to see much more. They kept a 3rd QB, so must like him. Or they really wanted a 3rd string in case Romo did go down, they had someone familiar with the system, as opposed to bringing in someone at the last minute again.

 

[xwalker]

I'm kinda curious what the Ranch thinks about this guy.. I've heard zero about him since training camp. If a guy like Hundley or Petty is available in the 2nd does Jerry say we're set at QB lets get another TE.. We struck free agent gold with Romo is Vaughn being groomed?

There is no way to know about Vaughan. He just didn't play enough.

If they are confident that Romo is going to play at least 2 more years, then drafting a QB in the 1st/2nd might be seen as just taking away from adding talent to help Romo win. It would be a risk not to draft one, but you also don't want to waste the first 2 or 3 years of a rookie QBs cheap contract by having him sit on the bench.

 

[xwalker]

You lost me at the TE comment....it adds no value to a good question....

If a QB is there, take him, no matter what.
I think they like what they see in Vaughan, but still need to see much more. They kept a 3rd QB, so must like him. Or they really wanted a 3rd string in case Romo did go down, they had someone familiar with the system, as opposed to bringing in someone at the last minute again.

Good point. I don't know if they kept Vaughan on the 53 because they really like him for the future or if they just wanted a 3rd QB to be the backup if the 2nd QB had to start.

 

[Nexx]

Yes they are purposely wasting a roster spot just for the hella of it....

 

[Doomsday101]

There is no way to know about Vaughan. He just didn't play enough.

If they are confident that Romo is going to play at least 2 more years, then drafting a QB in the 1st/2nd might be seen as just taking away from adding talent to help Romo win. It would be a risk not to draft one, but you also don't want to waste the first 2 or 3 years of a rookie QBs cheap contract by having him sit on the bench.

Not sure when it comes to QB if that is a wasted pick even if the guy sits for a year or 2. I would agree at any other position but if you find a QB you are confident in then draft him. After all there is no 1-800-QB number you can call as BP pointed out.

 

[jazzcat22]

Not sure when it comes to QB if that is a wasted pick even if the guy sits for a year or 2. I would agree at any other position but if you find a QB you are confident in then draft him. After all there is no 1-800-QB number you can call as BP pointed out.

I think the Colts have that number, from Manning to Luck....

 

[Doomsday101]

I think the Colts have that number, from Manning to Luck....

they got the number by picking 1st in both of those drafts. Great break that Manning and Luck were the top QB in those drafts.

 

[xwalker]

Not sure when it comes to QB if that is a wasted pick even if the guy sits for a year or 2. I would agree at any other position but if you find a QB you are confident in then draft him. After all there is no 1-800-QB number you can call as BP pointed out.

Under the current CBA, draft picks are the primary salary cap management tool. In order to manage the cap, teams need production from draft picks on their rookie contracts. The primary draft picks that you expect to contribute are 1st and 2nd rounders. Teams like Seattle have benefited immensely from having a starting QB on his rookie contract. It makes it much easier for them to sign free agents without having to worry about the cap.

 

[Doomsday101]

Under the current CBA, draft picks are the primary salary cap management tool. In order to manage the cap, teams need production from draft picks on their rookie contracts. The primary draft picks that you expect to contribute are 1st and 2nd rounders. Teams like Seattle have benefited immensely from having a starting QB on his rookie contract. It makes it much easier for them to sign free agents without having to worry about the cap.

I agree unless you are talking QB. I think they are hard to find and if you really are sold on one then drafting him and having him sit a year or 2 is not a big deal. Heck at least there is a rookie cap unlike the years were rookies were getting contracts like vet pro bowl QB's. I don't think you wait until your starting QB retires and then hope to get one we did that before it does not work. meantime teams like GB had Favre yet still got Hasslebeck, then traded him and drafted Rodgers who sat behind Brett. If we are talking WR, RB or any other position I agree with you when it comes to QB I would rather get a top player I feel has a bright future even it he sits a couple of years

 

[LandryFan]

I think the Colts have that number, from Manning to Luck....

Don't forget Green Bay...from Favre to Rogers.

 

[xwalker]

I agree unless you are talking QB. I think they are hard to find and if you really are sold on one then drafting him and having him sit a year or 2 is not a big deal. Heck at least there is a rookie cap unlike the years were rookies were getting contracts like vet pro bowl QB's. I don't think you wait until your starting QB retires and then hope to get one we did that before it does not work. meantime teams like GB had Favre yet still got Hasslebeck, then traded him and drafted Rodgers who sat behind Brett. If we are talking WR, RB or any other position I agree with you when it comes to QB I would rather get a top player I feel has a bright future even it he sits a couple of years

Yes, if they have the chance to draft a QB that they are sold on, then do it, but don't just draft on to draft one.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I'm kinda curious what the Ranch thinks about this guy.. I've heard zero about him since training camp. If a guy like Hundley or Petty is available in the 2nd does Jerry say we're set at QB lets get another TE.. We struck free agent gold with Romo is Vaughn being groomed?

how about connor cook from Michigan state in the 2nd or 3rd round?

 

[Alexander]

I don't think you wait until your starting QB retires and then hope to get one

No you don't. You never want to be desperate to get a QB. Then you force a first round choice and talk yourself into the idea that they are the solution. And if they are not, then you set your franchise back severely as it limits your ability to take the best talent you can with your first round choice.

It is a very hard position to evaluate, which is why you sometimes have to kill it with numbers like the Packers did under Ron Wolf. I have not seen any situation where a team loses out by picking one practically every year like that. You get one that looks remotely promising, they become a hot commodity since there will always be a team that needs one. Again, you have to be able to put time into development if you do that.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, if they have the chance to draft a QB that they are sold on, then do it, but don't just draft on to draft one.

Fully agree.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Well, to be fair, other teams are asking the same question (future starter/backup/waste) of Kaepernick, RG3, Weeden, Cousins, McCoy, Ponder, Cassel, Tannehill, Glennon, Cutler, Dalton, Foles, Manuel, Hoyer, Manziel, Geno Smith, Locker, Mettenberger, and Mallett. And I'm guessing the Giants will be questioning Eli Manning going forward as will be Jacksonville with Bortles. I wouldn't feel comfortable betting the ranch on Bortles and passing on Mariota or Winston. And the Saints might be wondering what exactly they have with Brees in the near future.

Just as Romo was not ready when he was a rookie we have to wait and see with Vaughn. We won't know until he sees live action. And that may be never if the Cowboys draft a Petty/Hundley or some other QB in the early rounds.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm kinda curious what the Ranch thinks about this guy.. I've heard zero about him since training camp. If a guy like Hundley or Petty is available in the 2nd does Jerry say we're set at QB lets get another TE.. We struck free agent gold with Romo is Vaughn being groomed?

No clue about Vaughn but we won't be taking a TE in the 2nd round. People need to move on from that.

 

[Vinnie2u]

how about connor cook from Michigan state in the 2nd or 3rd round?

He's coming back to MSU in 2015

 

[Fletch]

I'm kinda curious what the Ranch thinks about this guy.. I've heard zero about him since training camp. If a guy like Hundley or Petty is available in the 2nd does Jerry say we're set at QB lets get another TE.. We struck free agent gold with Romo is Vaughn being groomed?

If the brass is thinking QB, and Hundley or Petty is there, you pull the trigger on one of those guys.