Dwayne Harris 3rd WR?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't say it wasn't a top performance, I said it wasn't a "dominant" performance. There is a difference. A dominant performance is one where a guy just cannot be stopped, and that wasn't the case here. He had a top performance based on stats, but it's not as if he were an unstoppable force despite the best efforts of the defense or that he was just too overwhelming to handle.

Again, the word "dominant" gets over used.




This is a good characterization.

You argument is now only down to semantics.

 

[speedkilz88]

"Dwayne is a guy that's kind of a work in progress," Robinson said. "But you can tell he's a ball player because it just seems like he knows how to play the game. He doesn't do everything perfectly, but he catches the ball, he makes the tough catch and he shows a little speed. He catches it and runs with it, and I think he's going to be a good addition for us."

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[starfrombirth]

I always believe former QB's turned WR's have an advantage... Look at Boldin and Ward, they contributed right away in the NFL, even Patrick Crayton contributed from the start.

You do realize that Boldin was a wr in college right? He was FSU's EMERGENCY qb.

 

[DFWJC]

You do realize that Boldin was a wr in college right? He was FSU's EMERGENCY qb.

And Ward was a WR through almost all of college too...like Harris.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Harris a steal in the 6th. Hell, he'd be a steal in the 4th. The fact that he fell that far is a blemish on all NFL scouts. They blew it.

Dwayne Harris was a conference MVP. He's had the ball in his hands way more than the average draft pick. He's seasoned, tough, he breaks tackles, he makes guys miss, he's got good hands, and most importantly he has incredible football instincts. I didn't need a preseason game to tell me these things - I watched every game he played at ECU. The last guy to come out of ECU with these types of skills was Chris Johnson.

As a Commanders fan and ECU alum, I am totally pissed off about this!

 

[FLcowboy]

i think it's a little early to talk about him as the 3rd....we need to see more of how Ogletree does in the 3 WR sets with Romo and Austin and Dez

however i think Harris showed a lot of promise to be the 4th WR for sure

Ogletree is an enigma. He has flashes of stardom in the pre-season, then he disappears. He may have already started the disappearance act. I'd like to see the coaches concentrate on Harris for the next three weeks. Get him ready for a strong contributing role. With Austin and Bryant commanding the respect of the WRs and safeties, Harris ought to run to daylight.

 

[DFWJC]

Harris a steal in the 6th. Hell, he'd be a steal in the 4th. The fact that he fell that far is a blemish on all NFL scouts. They blew it.

Dwayne Harris was a conference MVP. He's had the ball in his hands way more than the average draft pick. He's seasoned, tough, he breaks tackles, he makes guys miss, he's got good hands, and most importantly he has incredible football instincts. I didn't need a preseason game to tell me these things - I watched every game he played at ECU. The last guy to come out of ECU with these types of skills was Chris Johnson.

As a Commanders fan and ECU alum, I am totally pissed off about this!

LOL
Sorry man. For some reason, the Cowboys ties with ECU have run much deeper than with the Skins (or Panthers for that matter).

I can name at least three ECU starters on Cowboy Super Bowl teams that earned a total of 6 rings. Robert Jones, Vincent Smith, and John Jett.

And just off of the top of my head, I can think of 9-10 Pirates that have played here--though some sparingly. No major super stars, but a couple have made the pro bowl.
Hopefully Harris can help us out down here!

Just some trivia.

 

[dogunwo]

I always believe former QB's turned WR's have an advantage... Look at Boldin and Ward, they contributed right away in the NFL, even Patrick Crayton contributed from the start.

Isaiah Stanback and Eric Crouch say you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[speedkilz88]

Isaiah Stanback and Eric Crouch say you don't know what you are talking about.

The guys he mentioned made college transitions. It's a lot more difficult to make that transition in the nfl, although Drew Pearson did it.

 

[Dallas4ever]

It's kinda funny how people act like Kevin Ogletree is this entrenched proven veteran than can't possibly be beaten out by a rookie. Dude is a former undrafted free agent with a whopping 10 career receptions who barely made it out of training camp last year with a roster spot by the skin of his teeth. It was obvious in the post draft press conferences that Harris was drafted with every opportunity to win the #3 WR position, and he clearly outplayed Ogletree tonight and by all reports has for most of camp as well.

My thoughts exactly! Ogletree hasn't done enough to lock the position up. He's gonna need to show much more to hold the job. Harris has displayed a good feel for the game and looks very natural out there.

 

[jazzcat22]

There was one play before that game winning TD play where he had a miscommunication with McGee

I still think he is 1-2 years away from making noise.

And McGee talked to him about that and he made an adjustment, and caught the TD the next play.

Come on, one mis-communication play makes him 1 - 2 years away?

 

[realtick]

The guys he mentioned made college transitions. It's a lot more difficult to make that transition in the nfl, although Drew Pearson did it.

What do you mean they made college transitions?

As in switching from QB to WR during their college years?

 

[realtick]

The overeaction by fans wanting to crown Harris after a preseason game is reminscent of how some folks were looking at Bryan McCann after his 100-yard interception return against the Giants.

Harris made some plays, which all you can ask of him in a given situation.

I'm more impressed with his second TD catch in the endzone than I am with the 76-yarder. He showed good hands and attacked the ball in the endzone where it counts.

By all accounts, from the past few weeks, Harris has shown that he's a gamer that needs continued refinement. He hasn't blown anyone away with his talent as Dez did in last year's OTA's and training camp before his injury.

Even after this game the coaching staff was given him tempered praise in saying he has a lot to learn and needs polishing.

I'm excited as everyone else in seeing what he can do, but when you consider where he came from (ECU) and how he was utilized (simplistic route running), you know that he's likely a bit raw from just being handed the #3 job.

 

[Dallas4ever]

The overeaction by fans wanting to crown Harris after a preseason game is reminscent of how some folks were looking at Bryan McCann after his 100-yard interception return against the Giants.

Harris made some plays, which all you can ask of him in a given situation.

I'm more impressed with his second TD catch in the endzone than I am with the 76-yarder. He showed good hands and attacked the ball in the endzone where it counts.

By all accounts, from the past few weeks, Harris has shown that he's a gamer that needs continued refinement. He hasn't blown anyone away with his talent as Dez did in last year's OTA's and training camp before his injury.

Even after this game the coaching staff was given him tempered praise in saying he has a lot to learn and needs polishing.

I'm excited as everyone else in seeing what he can do, but when you consider where he came from (ECU) and how he was utilized (simplistic route running), you know that he's likely a bit raw from just being handed the #3 job.

Ogletree sure as heck doesn't look polished and for that matter, nor does Dez. Dez is an extremely talented player but still a 2nd year receiver with much to learn. His talent/skills has him on the field. The same will be the case for whoever wins the 3rd receiver spot.

 

[realtick]

Ogletree sure as heck doesn't look polished and for that matter, nor does Dez. Dez is an extremely talented but still a 2nd year receiver with much to learn. His talent/skills has him on the field. The same will be the case for whoever wins the 3rd receiver spot.

Well, I think Dez's talent in plainly obvious to everyone, and it overides his shortcomings at this time.

In terms of route running, Ogletree is far more polished than Harris at this point. Just last season, or was it '09, they were talking about how Ogletree was Terry Glenn'esque in that department.

Ogletree has suffered with brainfarts at times, which makes him inconsistent. Also, take it FWIW, but apparently he also reportedly had some premadonna entitlement issues going on last season. In fact, this season he's even alluded to the fact of how he now knows how to practice/train like a professional.

For Harris, with no OTA's, mini-camp and an abbreviated training camp, coupled with a simplistic offensive system at ECU, Harris has an uphill battle this season. I definitely can see the Cowboys utilizing him in select, predetermined plays, much in the same way they did Ogletree his rookie season. But that's entirely different from counting on a guy, play-in-play-out to be in the right spot, at the right time, making the right adjustments as a #3 slot receiver.

 

[DFWJC]

I'm excited as everyone else in seeing what he can do, but when you consider where he came from (ECU) and how he was utilized (simplistic route running), you know that he's likely a bit raw from just being handed the #3 job.

Where do you get that his offense was so unusually simplistic?

Also, he ran a new offense (a variation of the Texas Tech offense) his senior season compared to the 1st 3 years under Skip Holz....so what years are you refferring to? And compared to what schools are you referring to when saying it was uncomplicated?

I bet ECU runs a more complex offense than the majority of the teams out there: with mutiple hot reads, numerous routes lining up from all over the field, and even some wildcat mixed in.

Just curious...maybe you can explain?

BTW, I actually agree with your overall premis that people should not go overboard on DH. Not yet anyway. Letr's see if he can actually earn it over many games.

I'm just curious where your claims come about his lack of sophistication in his offense.

 

[30yrheel]

ecu runs an offense as complex as most colleges. and harris looked plenty fast during the game.

 

[DFWJC]

ecu runs an offense as complex as most colleges. and harris looked plenty fast during the game.

Fellow Tarheel backing me up!

 

[30yrheel]

Fellow Tarheel backing me up!

Go Tar Heels!

 

[InmanRoshi]

My thoughts exactly! Ogletree hasn't done enough to lock the position up. He's gonna need to show much more to hold the job. Harris has displayed a good feel for the game and looks very natural out there.

He's the same guy he was in college ... nice athlete, can look good on the practice field at time (when he decides he likes playing football which is typically a 50/50 proposition), Mr. Invisible in the games. There's a reason why a 4.3 guy from a BCS program with a college coaching staff with TONS of NFL ties goes undrafted.