Eagles braintrust gave a no-name their HC job in 1999 based largely on one intangible

_sturt_ said:
That intangible? Well, it's kinda two, but see highlighted below.

(And. Seems relevant for obvious reasons.)


https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/14/joe-banner-jeffrey-lurie-hiring-andy-reid



......Our study, which focused on coaches who had been to multiple Super Bowls, showed that from a football perspective there were few common threads. Some coaches came up on defense, others on offense. Some believed in throwing the ball all over the yard, others were resolute in running it. Some had extensive play-calling experience on one side of the ball or the other. Others didn’t. There was nothing there.

When we moved from there to character and personality, suddenly everything crystalized. All of these coaches were very detail-oriented, to the point where it drove those around them crazy. They were exceptional at evaluating people, and could apply that not just with players, but with coaches and scouts and support staff alike.

Above all else, they all were grounded in their philosophy, which wasn’t just a facsimile of the belief system held by others with whom they had worked. The individual philosophies differed, but all of them had a passion for their way.

We had our blueprint, and expected our lineup would look different from what the Ravens, Browns, Chiefs, Chargers, Seahawks, Panthers, Bears, and Packers put together that January. And it most certainly did.

As it turned out, we wound up with two defensive coordinators on our short list—Pittsburgh’s Jim Haslett and Oakland’s Willie Shaw—and the quarterbacks coach from Green Bay who’d spent most of his career coaching offensive linemen.

I don’t recall who first raised Andy’s name to us. What I do remember is panning coaches and players and agents, and laying out our criteria for the job, and asking, “Give me the name of someone, regardless of job or title, whom you’ve met and immediately thought, ‘This guy is a great leader.’” And Andy’s name kept coming up..............
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So, how did they move from Andy to the jerk they have now? New philosophy?
 
_sturt_ said:
Interesting. Because I've been reading a lot on this forum about the crap organization in Dallas. I won't rehearse all of the reasons people say ours is a crap organization... or if I agree with all those reasons, or if I agree with the conclusion itself. I'm just making an observation that seems relevant.
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I mean crap as in not winning anything. They had nothing to lose.
 
_sturt_ said:
That intangible? Well, it's kinda two, but see highlighted below.

(And. Seems relevant for obvious reasons.)


https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/14/joe-banner-jeffrey-lurie-hiring-andy-reid



......Our study, which focused on coaches who had been to multiple Super Bowls, showed that from a football perspective there were few common threads. Some coaches came up on defense, others on offense. Some believed in throwing the ball all over the yard, others were resolute in running it. Some had extensive play-calling experience on one side of the ball or the other. Others didn’t. There was nothing there.

When we moved from there to character and personality, suddenly everything crystalized. All of these coaches were very detail-oriented, to the point where it drove those around them crazy. They were exceptional at evaluating people, and could apply that not just with players, but with coaches and scouts and support staff alike.

Above all else, they all were grounded in their philosophy, which wasn’t just a facsimile of the belief system held by others with whom they had worked. The individual philosophies differed, but all of them had a passion for their way.

We had our blueprint, and expected our lineup would look different from what the Ravens, Browns, Chiefs, Chargers, Seahawks, Panthers, Bears, and Packers put together that January. And it most certainly did.

As it turned out, we wound up with two defensive coordinators on our short list—Pittsburgh’s Jim Haslett and Oakland’s Willie Shaw—and the quarterbacks coach from Green Bay who’d spent most of his career coaching offensive linemen.

I don’t recall who first raised Andy’s name to us. What I do remember is panning coaches and players and agents, and laying out our criteria for the job, and asking, “Give me the name of someone, regardless of job or title, whom you’ve met and immediately thought, ‘This guy is a great leader.’” And Andy’s name kept coming up..............
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Must be nice to have an excellent, competent front office that was actually an asset to the team instead of a detriment.
We can only wish.....
Sigh....
 
I remember this board when Reid was available. Many thought he was a failure and didn’t want him and, even though I can’t remember the full details, it was probably cause they loved themselves some Garrett and were just as much homers with nostalgia as our beloved Jones. They are just as bad as Jerry at evaluating talent.
 
Oh let’s find an outlier and give the delusionals something to cling onto…



Schottenheimer has been in the NFL for 28 years living off his Dads name and has coached 13 different teams.

He sucks.
 
khiladi said:
I remember this board when Reid was available. Many thought he was a failure and didn’t want him and, even though I can’t remember the full details, it was probably cause they loved themselves some Garrett and were just as much homers with nostalgia as our beloved Jones. They are just as bad as Jerry at evaluating talent.
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Haha I remember that too.

I was screaming to go get him but we had the next Landry to some and Andy might abandon the run and we couldn’t have that. Lol.
 
CATCH17 said:
Oh let’s find an outlier and give the delusionals something to cling onto…



Schottenheimer has been in the NFL for 28 years living off his Dads name and has coached 13 different teams.

He sucks.
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Rex Ryan disagrees.
 
khiladi said:
I remember this board when Reid was available. Many thought he was a failure and didn’t want him and, even though I can’t remember the full details, it was probably cause they loved themselves some Garrett and were just as much homers with nostalgia as our beloved Jones. They are just as bad as Jerry at evaluating talent.
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It's cause he was fat
 
CATCH17 said:
Haha I remember that too.

I was screaming to go get him but we had the next Landry to some and Andy might abandon the run and we couldn’t have that. Lol.
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No one heard your screams then and no one is hearing your screams now. Maybe one day...l
 
khiladi said:
I remember this board when Reid was available. Many thought he was a failure and didn’t want him and, even though I can’t remember the full details, it was probably cause they loved themselves some Garrett and were just as much homers with nostalgia as our beloved Jones. They are just as bad as Jerry at evaluating talent.
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Is it Reid or Mahomes? Which would you rather have?
 
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