Eagles, Giants, Bucs; win 2 out of those 3 and we will stay alive

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I don't care what the reason is, an average QB in this league can find a way to win one game out of 11 tries, he hasn't and he won't.

Then why bother coming here if you just want to be depressed all the time? You already know the season is over for sure, just go while us idiots keep hoping for just 2 wins.
 

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Of course you don't because you can't or won't see that it's a team game. It's not all on the quarterback. The dude had a 108 QB rating, didn't throw a pick, and then had a 90 YARD GAME WINNING DRIVE.

All this despite not having Dez Bryant and no other consistent playmakers.

First of all, you were already schooled on how the QB rating can be deceiving yet you continue to throw it out there like it has any impact, and second of all it wasn't a game winning drive, it was a game TYING drive and I give him credit for that. One series doesn't dictate how he played for the entire game. I'll say it again, 0-11 in his last 11, has 5 wins in his career, and he hasn't won a game since 2012. The only consistency about Weeden is that he loses games, but by all means, continue to tell us how great his QB rating is while he's losing.
 

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First of all, you were already schooled on how the QB rating can be deceiving yet you continue to throw it out there like it has any impact, and second of all it wasn't a game winning drive, it was a game TYING drive and I give him credit for that. One series doesn't dictate how he played for the entire game. I'll say it again, 0-11 in his last 11, has 5 wins in his career, and he hasn't won a game since 2012. The only consistency about Weeden is that he loses games, but by all means, continue to tell us how great his QB rating is while he's losing.

We are asking him to win 2 games against the likes of Winston and Bradford... both of whom have been horrible throughout their careers. What makes you think that there is no way that could be done?
 

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First of all, you were already schooled on how the QB rating can be deceiving yet you continue to throw it out there like it has any impact, and second of all it wasn't a game winning drive, it was a game TYING drive and I give him credit for that. One series doesn't dictate how he played for the entire game. I'll say it again, 0-11 in his last 11, has 5 wins in his career, and he hasn't won a game since 2012. The only consistency about Weeden is that he loses games, but by all means, continue to tell us how great his QB rating is while he's losing.

Schooled haha how amateurish of you. You can throw the record out there all you want the fact of the matter is it's a team game. Look at his support cast in Cleveland who did he have? Josh Gordon a great talent, but has had problems off the field which has kept him from reaching elite status as a wide reciever. Jordan Cameron a good pass catching tight end, but he's not like a Witten or a Gronkowski who has been dominant both as pass catcher and run blocking. No offensive line. As a result no semblance of a run game. Defense was always pretty mediocre. How is that a quality supporting cast? It's not. It's hell for most quarterbacks.

Yeah I realize Weeden was dumping off what else was he supposed to do? He took deep shots even where there was double coverage. Exactly what people wanted him to and yet people like you still criticize him. Have you seen his wide recieving corps? With no Dez Bryant NOBODY can consistently make plays. Even when Romo was playing it was a struggle. Terrance Williams can't catch with his hands. Beasley is a slot guy. Pretty much doing all he could. Witten is clearly slowed by those injuries. Butler has looked okay, but it's not like he's been consistently getting open deep down the field. He finally caught one and then hurt his hammy.

There's just nowhere to go with the football down the field so the fact that people kee killing Weeden despite how big he came up down the stretch, despite him for the most part not turning the football over and playing within himself and the offense.
 

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Schooled haha how amateurish of you. You can throw the record out there all you want the fact of the matter is it's a team game. Look at his support cast in Cleveland who did he have? Josh Gordon a great talent, but has had problems off the field which has kept him from reaching elite status as a wide reciever. Jordan Cameron a good pass catching tight end, but he's not like a Witten or a Gronkowski who has been dominant both as pass catcher and run blocking. No offensive line. As a result no semblance of a run game. Defense was always pretty mediocre. How is that a quality supporting cast? It's not. It's hell for most quarterbacks.

Yeah I realize Weeden was dumping off what else was he supposed to do? He took deep shots even where there was double coverage. Exactly what people wanted him to and yet people like you still criticize him. Have you seen his wide recieving corps? With no Dez Bryant NOBODY can consistently make plays. Even when Romo was playing it was a struggle. Terrance Williams can't catch with his hands. Beasley is a slot guy. Pretty much doing all he could. Witten is clearly slowed by those injuries. Butler has looked okay, but it's not like he's been consistently getting open deep down the field. He finally caught one and then hurt his hammy.

There's just nowhere to go with the football down the field so the fact that people kee killing Weeden despite how big he came up down the stretch, despite him for the most part not turning the football over and playing within himself and the offense.

5 wins, 0 for his last 11, hasn't won a game in 3 years. Nothing you say will change these facts.
 

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We are asking him to win 2 games against the likes of Winston and Bradford... both of whom have been horrible throughout their careers. What makes you think that there is no way that could be done?

He could but I'll have to see him lead a team to victory before I believe it.
 

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5 wins, 0 for his last 11, hasn't won a game in 3 years. Nothing you say will change these facts.

Okay whatever you say bro. Keep having this stupid view that that record is an individual one and not a team one.
 

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Okay whatever you say bro. Keep having this stupid view that that record is an individual one and not a team one.

It's weird... I can't think of another sport where an individual win loss is kept for an offensive player... Many sports it's the goalie, some its the pitcher.. Only football is it an offensive players stat... Maybe there's a reason for that
 

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Okay whatever you say bro. Keep having this stupid view that that record is an individual one and not a team one.

It's not a view, those are facts and you can't handle them...........bro
 

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We said the same thing with Atlanta and New Orleans. Yea they are winnable. We could just as well lose them too. I haven't seen anything that convinces me that things will change.
 

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Not at all. Not with this QB.

Sorry, boys. They don't make enough lipstick for this pig.

You don't think they can beat the Bucs and the Eagles with Weeden? I think it can happen, especially considering we will have Dez back (probably) and some healthy starters on defense
 

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You don't think they can beat the Bucs and the Eagles with Weeden? I think it can happen, especially considering we will have Dez back (probably) and some healthy starters on defense

I think that no matter the circumstances, Brandon Weeden will find a way to lose. It's what losers do.

Now he has won 5 games in his career so I'm sure they could get 1 at some point but I will bet against that bum each and every time.
 

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Sorry any way I slice it Weeden has looked better these past few weeks than Winston + Bradford. More yards on average and a far better QBR... Weeden has looked bad... Winston and Bradford have looked abysmal, and Weeden will only look better when Dez comes back.

Winston just beat the team we lost to last night so I don't know how you guys can be counting any game as an auto W right now
 

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Skinny faced qbs are better than fat faced qbs, in general. I'm sure there's a couple of exceptions here or there. That's y I'm so scared Aaron Rodgers and Brady have skinny faces, and we play them soon, with our plump faced qb
 

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The problem is that the Giants Schedule is incredibly easy over the next 5 weeks.

Seriously:
-49ers
-@ Eagles
- Cowboys
-@ Saints
-@ Bucs

I have them going 4-1 over the next 5. If that happens the division is basically out of reach.

The wildcard will not be available at 9-7.
 
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