Eagles own Saints 1st rd pick

[StarOfGlory]

Fun fact: Jason Kelce has more All-Pros than his brother Travis.


And 3 more than Fred Beard.

But they both have great beards.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Currently holding the 6th pick in the first round right now with the Saints sitting at 3-6. With the team they've assembled right now this could definitely be a case of the rich getting richer in our division.

Or they could draft a bust.

 

[Jipper]

This front office that hasn't fielded a Super Bowl team in 27 years

as i stated, always fair to criticize the front office for that element. However, to call them "amateur" when compared to philly when they have been incredibly good at drafting over the past 5 years and have really built a great team top to bottom is not fair terminology to use.

Yes we are all frustrated with the lack of a SB but we can't simply let that diminish the good things that have propelled this team to 6-2.

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

Their GM will be moving up to select a QB..........Ya his name isn't Jerry.
The Gagles are looking to take over the NFC East for the upcoming years and they are not hiding this fact.
Our options are few as the Cap will have us handcuffed.

Not a lot of difference in cap space between the COWBOYS and Philthy

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space (2023)

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2023/

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

Or they could draft a bust.

They have that history. Could make them wince!

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

The Eagles are “fools gold”. Soft schedule, and caught the Cowboys on their backup QB and still had a hard time winning the game.

Eagles are not going to win a SB this year; however, they are going to win enough games that they are going to have to pay Hurts premium money to keep him. If they wait until he is in the last year of his deal that may be even worse.

Hurts isn’t a “bad” QB. I wanted Dallas to take him in the 3rd round to backup Dak and push Dak, but he didn’t fall that far so it was a moot point. Hurts is not a top 5 QB.

If I were the Eagles I would trade Hurts for some high picks including a first rounder and go get me another young QB out of the draft of off of the scrap heap and develop him. I think that is the smart move.

Five years of cheap QB plus that team plus extra draft picks sounds like a tougher “out” for he Cowboys than for them to pay Hurts $45 or $50M per year.

Let’s hope that is the case.

 

[lkelly]

Once the Patriots took care of dominating their weak division and dispensed the best the AFC had to offer in the playoffs, they defeated the best the NFC team six times.

I am aware of how the playoffs work. I'm also cognizant enough to know that having a nearly free pass to a home playoff game (at the worst) as a division winner year in and year out dramatically increases your chances at getting one of those rings. Having a bye boosts the chances even more. The notion that you will win more Super Bowls if you have to run through a tough division is hard to support from a math standpoint.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Not realistic based on what? In 2013 Philadelphia won the division with Foles, then Philly traded him for Bradford and then traded away Bradford for a 1st, drafting Wentz. Brought in Foles again, Foles won a SB then Foles left. Then we traded Wentz away and drafted Hurts.

And through all this we’ve made the playoffs 5 of the last 6 years, with 4 playoff wins (and counting), and this year’s team is looking as good as any we’ve had in that span.

What is the basis that none of that was “realistic?” It happened. If Gardner Minshew was our QB this year, could we be 6-2 right now? At least 5-3? We’d still be well into playoff contention if we traded Hurts.

So you're saying that Hurts isn't a major reason for why the Eagles are 8-0 and that Howie won't see him as a major reason and is potentially going to draft a QB in the first round despite the Eagles being 8-0 with Hurts? Also there is still the point of how the Eagles are going to eventually need to pay some QB due to how the market works. Unless they believe they can just gamble away QBs solely based on what happened in 2017.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Currently holding the 6th pick in the first round right now with the Saints sitting at 3-6. With the team they've assembled right now this could definitely be a case of the rich getting richer in our division.

Andy Dalton will pull the Saints out of the gutter. He is better than Dak, at least that's what I've heard.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Andy Dalton will pull the Saints out of the gutter. He is better than Dak, at least that's what I've heard.

LOL, which Horsemen said that?

 

[Adreme]

Currently holding the 6th pick in the first round right now with the Saints sitting at 3-6. With the team they've assembled right now this could definitely be a case of the rich getting richer in our division.

If I am the Eagles I use that pick grab a QB, wave bye bye to Hurts, and keep the loaded roster going. They already made the mistake of signing an average QB to big money once, I cannot imagine doing it twice will work out for them. The fact that they are in position to do so though is somewhat annoying.

 

[Adreme]

So you're saying that Hurts isn't a major reason for why the Eagles are 8-0 and that Howie won't see him as a major reason and is potentially going to draft a QB in the first round despite the Eagles being 8-0 with Hurts? Also there is still the point of how the Eagles are going to eventually need to pay some QB due to how the market works. Unless they believe they can just gamble away QBs solely based on what happened in 2017.

Wins are not a QB stat. Meanwhile why are they going to have to eventually pay a QB? Is there a reason they cannot keep using firsts to draft new ones while keeping the roster loaded up? At the very least in this position they would have a loaded roster for the next 4-5 years because they have had many years with a small QB cap hit allowing them to do things like sign AJ Brown.

 

[Loso86]

Best record in the league
Undefeated thus far
Division rival

Doesn't change who they are.....?

 

[Motorola]

Doesn't change who they are.....?

'Doesn't change who they are....?'
What does your statement mean?

 

[Loso86]

'Doesn't change who they are....?'
What does your statement mean?

They are the eagles....Rivals...division foe....

 

[Avery]

And we got a 1, a 2, and a 3 for that 2021 first we traded to the saints. The 3 was packaged for AJ Brown, and the 2nd rounder we still have from them for 2024. So if they’re bad again next year we’ll have 3 picks in the top 40

I re-read my post and it probably wasn't clear, but I meant the Saints aren't daunting and their schedule isn't either as their division stinks. Eagles will get a top ten pick if we continue to see Andy Dalton be trotted out. It's early, but seems like a foregone conclusion that we'll have at least two QB's go top ten and I'd bet on more rising which will push some very good defenders straight in their lap.

 

[nate dizzle]

If I am the Eagles I use that pick grab a QB, wave bye bye to Hurts, and keep the loaded roster going. They already made the mistake of signing an average QB to big money once, I cannot imagine doing it twice will work out for them. The fact that they are in position to do so though is somewhat annoying.

Guess it all depends how they view him. Do they think they've got a Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick level of qb or do they think they have Jacoby Brissett.

 

[Motorola]

They are the eagles....Rivals...division foe....

And currently have the league's best record, plus in position to garner the no. 1 = playoff bye for the first round.
And that is why Cowboys Zone member 'nate dizzle' made this thread about the potentially high 1st round pick PHL got from NO - it is a valued asset that can contribute to them boistering their team beyond what happens this postseason.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So you're saying that Hurts isn't a major reason for why the Eagles are 8-0 and that Howie won't see him as a major reason and is potentially going to draft a QB in the first round despite the Eagles being 8-0 with Hurts? Also there is still the point of how the Eagles are going to eventually need to pay some QB due to how the market works. Unless they believe they can just gamble away QBs solely based on what happened in 2017.

Based on what happened in 2017
And 2018
And 2019
And 2021
And 2022
And 2014
And 2013
And 2010

Hes a big reason why they’re 8-0, but not a requirement for us to make the playoffs. The post I was quoting said it was “not realistic” to expect playoffs if we don’t pay hurts and instead rollover the position, which is preposterous because we’ve been doing it for years

 

[StarOfGlory]

Guess it all depends how they view him. Do they think they've got a Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick level of qb or do they think they have Jacoby Brissett.

The Michael Vick that played for Philly was one scary dude on the field. I know Giants and Washington fans that still have nightmares about him. If they thought he could play at prime Vick level he'd be signed already. I can't think of another QB I ever saw that had his combination of arm strength, pure speed, and running ability. Hurts is nowhere near that level. The only QB's I can think of that had that arm are Testeverde and Cunningham (pure strength).