Eagles re-sign Jalen Hurts

[big dog cowboy]

Cowboys have been in cap hell

When did this happen? They haven't been in cap hell for many many seasons.

 

[CowboyoWales]

And the projected hits for the first three years of Hurts are 6.15m 13.56m, and 21.77m. You will agree that those are significantly lower than Dak's, right? And this since the market has been reset. It's 24m less over 3 years....so yeah, I'd say Dak had us over a barrel.

....and because of how we've restructured his contract, he's still got us over a barrel on his next contract as well.

There's no incentive for Dak to sign an extension atm, by the look of it he's getting paid $31m in 2023 and $34m in 2024. The urgency is on our front with the CAP hits of $59M in 2024 and $36m in 2025 (before he even signs).....wait for Burrows to blow the roof off.

Then add the issue that the Eagles were able to spread the CAP hit over 7 years....which is feasible for a 25 year old QB (but unrealistic for one that's 30). We arent getting the same 'CAP relief' years, as we need to incorporate the $36m Void money AND whatever we decide to restructure into Void money just to survive the 2024 season.

There's also the consideration that his style and execution helped get them to the SB (and potentially a win if it werent for Mahomes).

 

[Pola_pe_a]

And I'm sure they will play nice in the sandbox and never want a restructured contract........

Moving the goalposts now that your initial point was proven wrong?
A couple of the guys will be up for new contracts and there will be restructures but the mass exodus of talent you predicted isn’t happening.

 

[Flamma]

How is this even possible? They had to back load the hell out of it

From what I've heard, the last 2 years of his contract is ridiculously high. like around 80 something million or more. And they'll just restructure that when they get there.

The drawback is if he's not worth restructuring. And of course, when his career is over. At some point you have to pay.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Hey you can call me all the names you want and pretend you know everything.

The only "exchange" mistake was his ability to hang onto the football.

That play changed the entire momentum of the game.

Only literally being carried by his teamates for first downs and tds kept them in that game.


Sorry, not going to apologize for calling it like it is.

No need to apologize. I thought you were intentionally saying things that I think (and virtually every person in the football business said) is wrong and nonsensical... that if a QB has any bad play, knowing QBs orchestrate 100 plays a game, that any single play decides whether he cost his team the game or not....

I thought you were just trolling for reactions.... but if u REALLY believe that, then I recant my statement that u are saying things you fully well know are dumb.

My bad on the assumption!

 

[bottleKids]

Y’all are gonna freak when Dak gets
55-60

That's what you think... half this board will post why its better deal than Hurts and how its great it is for us.

 

[jujoboys]

....and because of how we've restructured his contract, he's still got us over a barrel on his next contract as well.

There's no incentive for Dak to sign an extension atm, by the look of it he's getting paid $31m in 2023 and $34m in 2024. The urgency is on our front with the CAP hits of $59M in 2024 and $36m in 2025 (before he even signs).....wait for Burrows to blow the roof off.

Then add the issue that the Eagles were able to spread the CAP hit over 7 years....which is feasible for a 25 year old QB (but unrealistic for one that's 30). We arent getting the same 'CAP relief' years, as we need to incorporate the $36m Void money AND whatever we decide to restructure into Void money just to survive the 2024 season.

There's also the consideration that his style and execution helped get them to the SB (and potentially a win if it werent for Mahomes).

If you really want to compare apples to apples you have to look at actually how both QBs got/are getting paid to get where they are at today.

Dak played on his rookie year (4th) at $2 million, then in his 5th was franchised for $31 million. In his 6th year he was signed to 4 year $160 million contract that runs through his 6th - 9th years . Meaning that in the 6 years (4th - 9th year) he basically had a 6 year $193 million contract or $32.2 million per year.

Hurts was set to make $4 million in his 4th year and signed a 5 year extension for $255 million for years (5th - 9th). Meaning that in the 6 years (4th - 9th year) he basically has a 6 year $259 million contract or $43.2 million per year.

 

[CowboyoWales]

If you really want to compare apples to apples you have to look at actually how both QBs got/are getting paid to get where they are at today.

Dak played on his rookie year (4th) at $2 million, then in his 5th was franchised for $31 million. In his 6th year he was signed to 4 year $160 million contract that runs through his 6th - 9th years . Meaning that in the 6 years (4th - 9th year) he basically had a 6 year $193 million contract or $32.2 million per year.

Hurts was set to make $4 million in his 4th year and signed a 5 year extension for $255 million for years (5th - 9th). Meaning that in the 6 years (4th - 9th year) he basically has a 6 year $259 million contract or $43.2 million per year.

....I didnt mention anything about comparative Rookie Deals, nor value comparisons. Im purely pointing out that we arent getting the same kind of deal out of Dak which the Eagles got out o Hurts.

 

[Cowboys1966]

No doubt, that graphic doesn’t include the last two years of the deal and I’m sure the hit will be huge. Howie is counting on the cap increasing substantially with the new TV deal in ‘24 and I’m sure he’ll rework the deal in a couple years. Howie loves to kick the can but so far he seems to have avoided true cap he’ll.

They will pay for it sometime… But I’m sure they will try to time it, so it all comes in a tanking year anyway…

 

[Ken]

No need to apologize. I thought you were intentionally saying things that I think (and virtually every person in the football business said) is wrong and nonsensical... that if a QB has any bad play, knowing QBs orchestrate 100 plays a game, that any single play decides whether he cost his team the game or not....

I thought you were just trolling for reactions.... but if u REALLY believe that, then I recant my statement that u are saying things you fully well know are dumb.

My bad on the assumption!

No i know that, i don't just believe it. He cost them that game. They had it.

He literally handed them the momentum. That changed the whole game. No amount of scrum td's/first downs could overcome that.

 

[Rockport]

It seems some folks manage cap space better than others.

You won’t be saying that if Hurts gets hurt which is likely him being a running QB.

 

[Kingofholland]

How did this turn into 33 pages for another teams player, lol?

 

[sandbridge77]

Don’t tell blueblood

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

How did this turn into 33 pages for another teams player, lol?

Good question.

They've just been way more successful than us over the last quarter century,...so maybe human instinct to hate ur "neighbor" who has a much better house than you?

IDK...just a theory. All I know is you don't see a lot of 33 page threads about the Giants or redsk.... Commanders. We simply just don't care about them.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

How did this turn into 33 pages for another teams player, lol?

I just hope there isn't ANOTHER 33 page thread about ANOTHER eagle named "Jalen" joining their team 8 days from now.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

No i know that, i don't just believe it. He cost them that game. They had it.

He literally handed them the momentum. That changed the whole game. No amount of scrum td's/first downs could overcome that.

Well we'll have to agree to disagree on his impact on that game, and whether he was a positive force for the Eagles as a whole in that game, or a negative influence as a whole.

But one thing we CAN agree on: if that ball doesn't hit the turf there on that play, the Lombardi Trophy would be residing in the NFC East right now

Apologies again for thinking/accusing u of "hot take-ing" for reactions

 

[Typhus]

maybe, maybe not. he had a very strong supporting cast. if they can't replenish the talent, then we will see how he does.

Nope, Hurts proved to me that he has chemistry with his receivers last season, and we better all pray that those dirty green birds don't end up with BR or Gibbs after day one.
They will be in the market heavily for a RB.

 

[Typhus]

We had a better team? SF was considered favorites to win when they got McCaffery…

Was like adding a silver bullet.

 

[sandbridge77]

And I never said otherwise. You just decided to attack me. You’ll lose that every time Troll.

You suggested that a poster who stated that some teams manage the cap better than others, wouldn’t be saying that when Hurts gets injured.What does an injury have to due with that fact?

You’re awful sensitive if you felt attacked by me agreeing with that poster’s opinion.

Are you sure you’re up for your job here being that sensitive?

 

[Rockport]

You suggested that a poster who stated that some teams manage the cap better than others, wouldn’t be saying that when Hurts gets injured.What does an injury have to due with that fact?

You’re awful sensitive if you felt attacked by me agreeing with that poster’s opinion.

Are you sure you’re up for your job here being that sensitive?

Because his contract is back loaded. When, not if most likely, he has a career ending or limiting injury and must be released the team will be in cap hell for multiple years.

And quit with the childish insults. It’s not making you look good.