Eagles re-sign Jalen Hurts

[JayFord]

Hurts is in the perfect system that uses his talent to the max

and you know what? thats HOW its SUPPOSED to be

now will it last? who knows...

 

[TWOK11]

This is a parroted stereotype of any QB who can run. On plays where he was asked to stay in the pocket, Hurts had the greatest passer rating in the entire league:



Now you can argue what may have inflated that number to be #1, but he’s significantly below average in the pocket? Cmon.

This is not a meaningful stat, most RPO throws are from the pocket. The issue is NON-RPO throws from the pocket, in which his QBR was bottom third of the league among starters. It’s just that Philadelphia ran the highest % of RPO in league history so his aggregate stats look very good from the pocket. But it’s not a sustainable model because one, DCs figure it out because it’s not overly complex and two, he won’t have the best OL and skill position talent beyond 2023.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

This is not a meaningful stat, most RPO throws are from the pocket. The issue is NON-RPO throws from the pocket, in which his QBR was bottom third of the league among starters. It’s just that Philadelphia ran the highest % of RPO in league history so his aggregate stats look very good from the pocket. But it’s not a sustainable model because one, DCs figure it out because it’s not overly complex and two, he won’t have the best OL and skill position talent beyond 2023.

QBR doesn’t differentiate between RPO and nonRPO as it’s an all-encompassing stat. That’s why you’ll only ever see QBR’s for entire games or seasons. Do you mean passer rating? Do you have a link to cite that number?

 

[Smith22]

Wrong . . . QBs are a dime a dozen.

Sure bud......

 

[Motorola]

Fur sure, that's certainly a likely case as well, in conjunction with what I was saying.

I see what you did there, RBH.

 

[Starforever]

What do you want us to do, boo the Eagles for what they pulled off? Now I don't know if Jalen Hurts would be an all-world beater if he wasn't surrounded by the talent they have, but really the praise/love/admiration part of the Eagles success is getting out of the Carson Wentz disaster and finding a sucker team like the Colts to suck draft capital out of.

Maybe someday in the future, the Eagles will pay the price for having to pay top dollar for their QB. But not this year. The Eagles superbowl window is wide open and if they are smart, they take Bijan with the #10 pick and enjoy having the most balanced/dangerous offense in football over the next few seasons. That's what I would do.

I find it ironic; that's all.

 

[Starforever]

'Starforever' - you've been a Cowboys Zoner for quite sometime now.
The site has long been infiltrated by Eagles fans.
I started viewing in a little over five years ago - January 2018 - and joined 2-1/2 years later...August 2020.
It was under the radar - but still discernable back then - that there were green & white trolls masquerading as Cowboys Fans.
With today's news, we haved viewed a few that have come out of the woodwork to applaud the deal.

I know; doesn't mean it's any less hypocritical. At times it seems as if there are more NFL hype fans than Dallas fans.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I never said Gallup>>Smith. I stated that someone else on these boards said this. Like I said, you can't read. There are Eagle fans who understand my post but you can't. Maybe you are the one who had concussions (yes, I had two). You can continue to trash talk me without understanding what I wrote. That's all I'm saying to you anymore, as you simply aren't worth the time to reply.

Apologies to the Mods for being abrasive to this poster. I know this type of conversation does not make your job easy.

but you piggy backed on gallup>>> SMith...didn't you? if you don't believe that, then why even bring it up as a defense of your Hurts Crush?
the fact that doesn't change is Hurts had a very very strong supporting cast. that fact is undeniable. some people even said he got carried to the superbowl....

and if you like eagles fans so much, perhaps you should go over there and hang out with them. you get more sympathy given you are admiring and defending hurts with your man crush perhaps you are an eagles fans in disguise.

you are nothing but a troll. that much has undeniably been proven.

 

[KingCorcoran]

The difference is we waited until Dak had us over a barrel. The Eagles are being proactive and it works to their benefit. They are getting him for the next 7 years at the current going rate but the hits don't really kick in until the 3rd year. Meanwhile we let Dak play out his deal, then franchised him, which meant from the get go he was getting the current rate.

Where does the “seven years” come from? I thought this was a five year extension, and it starts when his current contract ends, which is after this season. In effect, they rap him up for six years. The signing bonus day one is the 35th largest among current NFL player contracts, all guaranteed money is exhausted after the 2026 season. Wentz’s deal was similarly set up, albeit for significantly less money. Washington traded for Wentz and his deal. They had to pay his third year, the big one, but released him with zero cap hit as all of the guaranteed money was already paid out. Apparently it’s fine to have a generous owner as long as you have an astute GM. It takes them less than 28 years to figure out what they’re trying to do.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

At least Dak isn't friends with the rapist

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't think poorly of Hurts, I think he's a great athlete. I do wonder what happens down the line in terms overall productivity when he loses a step. I guess that's not my concern and the Eagles are probably not all that worried because he has it now and you either use it or lose it.

That said, I don't think he's a highest-paid contract guy after a single great year. The other young QBs have to be ecstatic. Joe Burrow might be able to get a yacht with his next deal. Hurts certainly has all the ability in the world, but as time marches on he's going to need to be a more prolific passer. Granted some of his TDs that could have been passing were ultimately rushing TDs but 22 passing TDs (as a current career high) isn't going to cut it when the top tier guys are averaging 1 additional passing TD/week and the legs are gone.

His greatest asset right now outside of his mobility is that he knows how to protect the ball as a passer. That'll carry you pretty far by itself. Alex Smith wasn't prolific, but he didn't cost his team with turnovers and he made one hell of a career being just good enough to give his team a chance.

Based on the body of work, I think the Eagles overpaid. Based on 2022, they may have gotten market value. Provided he can be just as effective for another 4-5 seasons, it's a deal that isn't too bad.

 

[zeke21]

Personally feel the QB market is a problem, that amount of money is going to leave a mark in your cap and make it near impossible to put enough talent together to win. I also think Hurts is the real deal and very talented BUT he is a running QB.. we saw with Cam just how quickly athletic QBs can fall off a cliff. Lose your legs and it is almost game over. I would also be worried about the fact that so far, on exposed form, Hurts put together ONE great season. You have no idea if he can back it up and work that hard consistently. Dare I say it.. a bit like the Zeke situation. At the time he was overpaid and then that was made to look so much worse by the fact that he never produced at that level again.

So far the only 'overpaid' QB that has produced meaningful results on a huge contract has been Mahomes and even at the time his deal has always been considered 'team friendly'.

I am still yet to see any evidence you can pay your QB mega dollars and win a SB. I really hope that the Jones boys don't get sucked into this trend.

I think in 3-4 years time.. when all these overpaid QBs have bombed due to no talent around them.. the market will adjust.

 

[Aviano90]

I’d pay Brandon Weeden that right now if he got us to a SB. Cowboys have been in cap hell and have been cheap as hell. The result of both? The same. There isn’t a magic formula.

 

[Starforever]

At least Dak isn't friends with the rapist

Who did he rape?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I see what you did there, RBH.

Haha, naturally

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Not sure ur point. Ur saying if a QB has a few bad plays, including 1 that isn't a "processing mistake" but just a mis-exchange, that he's the reason the team lost?

U know that's dumb. You know Dak has had GREAT games in the past, where he had 1 pick or 1 fumble, in an otherwise great game.

U know Hurts would have won MVP if not for the Chiefs getting the late go ahead drive. Nobody else on the Eagles played better that day than Hurts.

They would have lost 45-9 without Hurts. They almost, probably should have, won with him. I have no skin in the game, other than calling out dummies saying dumb things....but don't make dislike of a person make you say stupid things.

 

[GMO415]

AJ Brown signed thru ‘26
Dallas Goedert thru ‘25
Devonta Smith thru ‘25

Mailata thru ‘25
Dickerson thru ‘24 and he’ll get extended
Kelce done after this year. Cam Jurgens will take over when he’s gone
Cam Jurgens or Skronski if he gets picked
Lane Johnson thru ‘27

And I'm sure they will play nice in the sandbox and never want a restructured contract........

 

[Ken]

Not sure ur point. Ur saying if a QB has a few bad plays, including 1 that isn't a "processing mistake" but just a mis-exchange, that he's the reason the team lost?

U know that's dumb. You know Dak has had GREAT games in the past, where he had 1 pick or 1 fumble, in an otherwise great game.

U know Hurts would have won MVP if not for the Chiefs getting the late go ahead drive. Nobody else on the Eagles played better that day than Hurts.

They would have lost 45-9 without Hurts. They almost, probably should have, won with him. I have no skin in the game, other than calling out dummies saying dumb things....but don't make dislike of a person make you say stupid things.

Hey you can call me all the names you want and pretend you know everything.

The only "exchange" mistake was his ability to hang onto the football.

That play changed the entire momentum of the game.

Only literally being carried by his teamates for first downs and tds kept them in that game.


Sorry, not going to apologize for calling it like it is.

 

[DanA]

The players want that not the teams.

That was the joke.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Wrong. Dak's contract.
2021 $17.2 mill cap hit
2022 $19.7 mill cap hit
2023 $28.8 million

And the projected hits for the first three years of Hurts are 6.15m 13.56m, and 21.77m. You will agree that those are significantly lower than Dak's, right? And this since the market has been reset. It's 24m less over 3 years....so yeah, I'd say Dak had us over a barrel.