Eagles versus Cowboys on paper

[scottsp]

Westbrook must get props. He went for 1,900 combined yards and 11 TDs in 2006. He gives them exactly what their offense requires and his impact is undeniable.

As far as what's on paper, it helps me as a Cowboy fan to view these clubs on these terms. It certainly hasn't been fun on the field.

 

[Bizwah]

Westbrook must get props. He went for 1,900 combined yards and 11 TDs in 2006. He gives them exactly what their offense requires and his impact is undeniable.

As far as what's on paper, it helps me as a Cowboy fan to view these clubs on these terms. It certainly hasn't been fun on the field.

True....Westbrook is a great player.

But I think the combo of Jones/Barber measures up fairly well......and may be more complete. Running/Short-yardage/Blocking/Receiving/Explosiveness/Toughness.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

In all honestly, I have to admit one advantage McNabb has over Romo.

When it comes to projectile vomiting, McNabb is head-and-shoulders above all of his NFL peers.

Even Linda Blair is in awe of his prowess.

You get big points for that one ...Lol!!!

 

[kTXe]

Is there any reason for leaving off the D-lines and special teams, PT? Please, analyze them and enlighten us!

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

PT, I agree with your assessment and last season pretty much confirms all of your choices. It should make for some pretty good games this season.....we'll see.

Indeed. Should be a very interesting season; especially when our two teams meet.

 

[FLcowboy]

QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles

I can't logically argue this assessment, except to say that McNabb is on the downside of his career, and whether he can come back to previous levels remains to be seen. Romo has an upside that we can all speculate on. He certainly gained the excitement of the fans last year, and he has an upside. I predict that Romo will surpass McNabb this year in terms of effectiveness.

Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Eagles

This is a real homer rating. Trotter is obviously hurting the team, and could lose his starting position this year. Spikes is worth a sixth round pick to Buffalo, if Walker doesn't sign with Buffalo. If Walker comes back to Philadelphia, will Philadelphia even keep him? Ware alone is head and shoulders above anything on the Eagles. He will have plenty of help. Linebackers are probably the strongest position on the Cowboys.

Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = Eagles

This is a tossup. Reid hasn't brought the Eagles together as a team. He will probably overcome his personal issues, but let's face it, he was as much to blame for the Eagles loss in the Super Bowl as McNabb was. Reid is no Belicheck. Is he better than Phillips? I don't think so. Are Reid's assistants better than Phillips? Yes, I concede that.

Westbrook is the heart of the Eagles. He is their most valuable player. If they try to turn him into a feature running back, it will hurt the Eagles. Westbrook has to continue to play his game the way he has played it the last couple of years.

 

[jterrell]

QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles but in Philly they doubt McNabb much more than we do Romo here in Dallas. McNabb is less likely to play 16 games so this edge is slighter than many admit.

Westbrook versus Jones/Barber = Eagles but again tighter than you'd think. Westbrook has 1200+ yards rushing last year but it swas only his 2nd season ever going over 800 yards and in 5 seasons he has now only topped 812 yards rushing once. Julius Jones has done that every season of his career.

Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis versus T.O. and Terry Glenn = Dallas here and it could be a quite large margin. This edge will be reduced in time but TO and Glenn are both legit number 1 guys and Philly has two number 2's.

L.J. Smith versus Jason Witten = Dallas edge here is significant only because Romo is best friends with Witten. The stats were much closer prior to Romo entering the games last year.

Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles hav edge and by how much may ultimately determine the division. Dallas has invested alot of draft picks and free agent dollars to catch Philly here.

Eagles front 7 versus Dallas front 7 = Even. Philly was far worse than Dallas versus the run last year. Dallas was far worse versus the pass. Dallas has added a first round pick and returns Greg Ellis. Philly has signed Takeo Spikes who like Ellis is returning from injury. Kearse is a difference maker of days past but has struggled with his health and has apparently lost a step.

Brown, Shepperd and James versus Newman, Henry and Glenn = Dallas but its close. Henry has been injured and played much worse when injured.

Dawkins and Considine versus Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin = Dallas again but its close. Dawkins is much like Woody. He is not quite the cover guy Woody was but being a poor man's Woody is still Pro Bowl caliber yearly.


Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = Eagles of course. Reid is very good but his offensive design of throwing 70% of the time was horrid. Once that has been reeled in, he's a quite good game manager and he leaves Johnson alone to dominate the defensive side of things.

On paper Dallas is a better team. On the field Philly does a much better job getting up to play Dallas and Reid's coaching has been a boon in the matchups with 1 or 2 exceptions.

These two squads are much better than their nfce opponents and should be fighting for the division title as well as home field playoff games.

 

[Future]

Position by position sneak-peek snap shot look at who playing what position on both sides of the ball, and who in your opinion is the better athlete at that position ...

My choices (how I see it as an Eagles fan), will be in bold highlight.


QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles
Westbrook versus Jones/Barber = Eagles
Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis versus T.O. and Terry Glenn = Dallas
L.J. Smith versus Jason Witten = Dallas
Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles
Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Eagles
Brown, Shepperd and James versus Newman, Henry and Glenn = Dallas
Dawkins and Considine versus Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin = Dallas
Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = Eagles

Feel free to make any modification or comments (I just want to dialogue, I'm not trying to be disrespectful of peave anyone).


Phoenix-Talon

pretty well done and not homeristic...except maybe the LB corps but I'll let that slide.

Brian Westbrook is one of the more underrated backs in the league and is better than both Barber and Julius. I'd agree that he has the edge.

 

[BouncingCheese]

Until we beat the Eagles this season they are better than us, simple as that.

They man-handled us even though "on paper" we had the better team IMHO last season.

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

Until we beat the Eagles this season they are better than us, simple as that.

They man-handled us even though "on paper" we had the better team IMHO last season.

Game one we simply beat ourselves

they got lucky game one

game two .....yea we sucked

 

[BouncingCheese]

Game one we simply beat ourselves

they got lucky game one

game two .....yea we sucked

Game 1 I would agree with you.

Had the line held on for a half a second longer on those deep routes to Glenn and Bledsoe not made a few um-dum mistakes we had them. When I go back and look at those games I see how much talent we have on this team right now. It is just about finding the right fit for everything and everyone. I know there is parity in this league, but we played the Eagles at the beginning of the season when everyone needs the win because it may be the one that decides if you go home or go to the playoffs. We played the Eagles at their best and we were close.

The second game I honestly don't know what happened. I guess the team was just exhausted.

We still got pwned.

I hate those early bye-weeks.

They suck later on in the year.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Mcnabb versus Romo = PUSH

Westbrook versus Jones/Barber = Dallas

Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis versus T.O. and Terry Glenn = Dallas

L.J. Smith versus Jason Witten = Dallas

Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles

Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Dallas

Brown, Shepperd and James versus Newman, Henry and Glenn = Dallas

Dawkins and Considine versus Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin = Dallas

Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = PUSH

By mid-season... your two PUSHes will be BLUE

 

[Tobal]

Westbrook and Buckhalter are much better than Barber and Jones. Westbrook is the guy that when he's on the filed you are scared. Owens could be that, but right now only one team has a guy like that.

I wouldn't trade any of our LB's for Trotter (great, but in a very small space) or Gaither (unproven). I haven't seen Spikes play in awhile, but I know I'd rather have Ware than Spikes pre-Achilles.

I'd take the Dallas CB's over Phillies, but I'd take the Philly safeties at this point over Dallas..... I hope that one will change.

Morningweg, Jim Johnson and Andy Reid have to get a substantial nod at this point.

 

[TheFan]

Position by position sneak-peek snap shot look at who playing what position on both sides of the ball, and who in your opinion is the better athlete at that position ...

My choices (how I see it as an Eagles fan), will be in bold highlight.


QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles

Westbrook versus Jones/Barber = Eagles

Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis versus T.O. and Terry Glenn = Dallas

L.J. Smith versus Jason Witten = Dallas

Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles
Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Eagles

Brown, Shepperd and James versus Newman, Henry and Glenn = Dallas

Dawkins and Considine versus Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin = Dallas

Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = Eagles

Feel free to make any modification or comments (I just want to dialogue, I'm not trying to be disrespectful of peave anyone).


Phoenix-Talon

Dallas' linebackers are better but I'd give the nod to Dawkins and Considine.

Other than that I'm okay with the list at this point. We'll see how they rank at the end of the season.

 

[THUMPER]

Position by position sneak-peek snap shot look at who playing what position on both sides of the ball, and who in your opinion is the better athlete at that position ...

My choices (how I see it as an Eagles fan), will be in bold highlight.


QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles

I would give McNabb the edge here only because Romo hasn't even played a full season yet but by the end of the year I think it will be the other way around.

Westbrook versus Jones/Barber = Eagles

Westbrook vs Jones I would give the edge to the Eagles but the combination of Jones/Barber is much better than Westbrook/Buckhalter.

Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis versus T.O. and Terry Glenn = Dallas

No contest here as the Cowboys WRs are much better than the Eagles and we have better depth.

L.J. Smith versus Jason Witten = Dallas

Witten is an elite TE but Smith is in the next tier down and is a very good player. God knows he has killed us enough times over the years.

Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles

On paper this is true but I believe that by the end of the season it will be a push.

Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Eagles

No way are the Eagles' LBs better than the Cowboys'. With the addition of Spencer and the depth we have it is no contest.

Brown, Shepperd and James versus Newman, Henry and Glenn = Dallas

No argument here, we have excellent CBs.

Dawkins and Considine versus Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin = Dallas

Again no argument but it is close as Dawkins is a top Safety.

Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = Eagles

I listed Reid as one of the 4 current HCs I would take instead of Phillips right now. Reid always has his team ready to play and finds ways to win games even with the loss of players to FA (due to a stingy owner) or injuries.

 

[YosemiteSam]

QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles

I don't see it that way. I'll take Romo just because of the lack of theatrics.

Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles

I whole heartly agree last year, but the jury is still out this year.

Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Eagles

No last year (with this setup) and no again this year. I think this year may look closer to Spencer/Ayodele/Carpenter/Ware. Spikes and Trotter have both lost a step.

 

[Vintage]

QB- Eagles. Until Romo proves he is not a one year wonder, I am not sure how this can go to Dallas. McNabb was having a great year until he got hurt. And he's done well coming off injuries before (probably because he has plenty of practice at it). But until Romo legitimately proves he is better, this goes to McNabb.

RB- Eagles. This goes back to the LJ thread. Give me the better player over what might be a better tandem in Jones/Barber. Westbrook is one of the best in the NFC. Neither Jones nor Barber have that distinction.

WR- Dallas. And this really isn't close. Owens, Glenn, Crayton are superior than the Brown/Curtis/Baskett trio. Dallas has a legit #1 and probably two of the league's top 25 WR's. Philly has zero.

TE- Dallas. Witten is one of the league's best. And Dallas has a good backup TE in Fasano as well. Better depth and better players give Dallas the edge.

OL- Eagles. Their OL is experienced and remains intact. They also performed well last year. Dallas OL was up and down. Dallas could narrow the gap this year, but for now, Philly has the edge with better T's and G's.

DL- Push. Fact is, both teams have question marks concerning them. With Philly, its the health of Kearse combined with their poor run defense. Also, is Brunkley ready to start? With Dallas, its been the case of underachieving DE's in Canty and Spears. Both need to step it up this year.

LB- Dallas. Much like the RB position, this is a case where the best man wins out. Ware is the best LB when comparing both squads. Ayodele was solid last year. Bradie James needs to play better if he is to remain a starter. And Spencer/Ellis are solid options at the other LB spot. Philly has Trotter and Spikes and question marks in Gaither or Gocong.

CB- Dallas. But barely. Sheppard is a good #1 and Brown is a good CB to pair up with Sheppard. James is a good nickle as well. If anything, I could see this as a potential push as well.

S- Dallas. Williams and Hamlin as a duo are better than Considine and Dawkins.

 

[Green28]

Mcnabb versus Romo = PUSH

Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = PUSH

All I can say is WOW!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Position by position sneak-peek snap shot look at who playing what position on both sides of the ball, and who in your opinion is the better athlete at that position ...

My choices (how I see it as an Eagles fan), will be in bold highlight.


QB Mcnabb versus Romo = Eagles

Westbrook versus Jones/Barber = Eagles

Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis versus T.O. and Terry Glenn = Dallas

L.J. Smith versus Jason Witten = Dallas

Eagles OLine versus Dallas Oline = Eagles
Gaither/Takeo Spikes/Trotter versus Ellis/James/Ayodele/Ware = Eagles

Brown, Shepperd and James versus Newman, Henry and Glenn = Dallas

Dawkins and Considine versus Roy Williams and Ken Hamlin = Dallas

Andy Reid versus Wade Phillips = Eagles

Feel free to make any modification or comments (I just want to dialogue, I'm not trying to be disrespectful of peave anyone).


Phoenix-Talon

I heartily disagree with Reid over Wade Phillips. Wade won't be so distracted
by the criminal justice system like Reid, so WP will have more time to focus on football and therefore is a no-brainer.

 

[Stash]

Westbrook and Buckhalter are much better than Barber and Jones. Westbrook is the guy that when he's on the filed you are scared. Owens could be that, but right now only one team has a guy like that.

I would say that Westbrook himself is better than Jones/Barber, but Buckhalter is a non-facrtor. He's a broken-down waste of roster space who brings nothing to the table. The fact that he's still on the roster looks like charity to me. It's unfortunate about the injuries, but business is business. I would put Tony Hunt in the conversation before Brokenhalter.

I wouldn't trade any of our LB's for Trotter (great, but in a very small space) or Gaither (unproven). I haven't seen Spikes play in awhile, but I know I'd rather have Ware than Spikes pre-Achilles.

This was the one opinion I had a problem with in the original post. The Cowboys 3-4 defense is based on quality linebackers and their starters and depth are better than the Eagles.

I'd take the Dallas CB's over Phillies, but I'd take the Philly safeties at this point over Dallas..... I hope that one will change.

I think this is a wait-and-see area for me. Dallas' group looks good on paper, but they were certainly the team's achilles heel last year. I'll postpone judgement until I see what difference Hamlin and a change in scheme will do.

Morningweg, Jim Johnson and Andy Reid have to get a substantial nod at this point.

Based on experience and level of success, I would agree. But like anything else, it's a wait-and-see as to what Phillips and Garret can do in Dallas with the talent this team has. I can't praise or condemn them until I see the on-field product.