Eatman says McFadden is a couple weeks away

[CalPolyTechnique]

3 TDs is a theory huh......sure thing man whatever you say

Dispute the numbers I provided you regarding Murray's attempts w/Romo and McFadden's last year.

Go ahead...

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dispute the numbers I provided you regarding Murray's attempts w/Romo and McFadden's last year.

Go ahead...

Those numbers don't mean anything. Mcfadden was only the lead back with Romo in the Miami and some of the Carolina game.

Mcfadden scored 3 TDs last year point blank and we need more production from the running back spot. With Zeke and Morris moving on from Mcfadden is easy. Nothing he did last year should keep him safe on the roster especially since he is hurt.

Let Jackson run with the ones and he will give you what Mcfadden does......but he is cheaper, plays special teams and is younger

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Those numbers don't mean anything. Mcfadden was only the lead back with Romo in the Miami and some of the Carolina game.

Mcfadden scored 3 TDs last year point blank and we need more production from the running back spot. With Zeke and Morris moving on from Mcfadden is easy. Nothing he did last year should keep him safe on the roster especially since he is hurt.

Let Jackson run with the ones and he will give you what Mcfadden does......but he is cheaper, plays special teams and is younger

Lol, "those numbers don't mean anything?"

Sorry, but you're either being intellectually dishonest or sincerely aloof. Murray had 56 redzone carries compared to just 26 for McFadden. If that number alone doesn't speak to you I can't help raise your basic level of understanding.

When you don't have quality play from the QB position in between the 20s, you don't have many redzone scoring opportunities. To keep mindlessly saying "3 touchdowns period" without factoring in the obvious context is inane.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Lol, "those numbers don't mean anything?"

Sorry, but you're either being intellectually dishonest or sincerely aloof. Murray had 56 redzone carries compared to just 26 for McFadden. If that number alone doesn't speak to you I can't help raise your basic level of understanding.

When you don't have quality play from the QB position in between the 20s, you don't have many redzone scoring opportunities. To keep mindlessly saying "3 touchdowns period" without factoring in the obvious context is inane.

Cleveland was the worst redzone team in the league last year, even worst then Dallas...but what do you know their running back had more TD then McFadden.

Continue on with your excuses and love fest for McFadden.....he also had less carries and yards then McFadden

 

[Stash]

If Dunbar gets healthy, we need to say goodbye to McFadden.

McFadden doesn't bring anything to the table as a change of pace back. He was trash in that role last year and even worse in Oakland. He's a guy that needs to be fed carries to get going, he's no longer that super speedster like he was in college. Problem here is, he's also highly injury prone, so the more carries you give him the chances go up and up he'll be icing himself on the sidelines.

You could make a case to make him the scatback. But Dunbar is simply better in that role. So, an injury prone 29 year old RB who is an average to a little above average runner/receiver or a 26 year old scatback that showed he could be great in that role last year? One you can find off the street at any point in the year, the other is a little tougher to find.

If you're calling McFadden "injury prone", what does that make Dunbar?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

If you're calling McFadden "injury prone", what does that make Dunbar?

They are both injuried and are injury prone. I'm happy moving on from both. Neither are special and can be replaced

 

[Stash]

They are both injuried and are injury prone. I'm happy moving on from both. Neither are special and can be replaced

I'm wondering if either or both remain on PUP to start the season and are kept there just in case of injury.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I'm wondering if either or both remain on PUP to start the season and are kept there just in case of injury.

That's a great idea. Something I didn't even think about. Would work for 6 weeks but then I can't remember how many weeks after that they have to put on 53. Could give us half the season as insurance

 

[Stash]

That's a great idea. Something I didn't even think about. Would work for 6 weeks but then I can't remember how many weeks after that they have to put on 53. Could give us half the season as insurance

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...l-roster-designations-injured-reserve-pup-nfi

 

[Irvin88_4life]

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...l-roster-designations-injured-reserve-pup-nfi

So can have them until week 14 before they go to 53 or cut.

Thanks for the info. I knew the 6 weeks just couldn't remember after that

 

[JohnsKey19]

I'm wondering if either or both remain on PUP to start the season and are kept there just in case of injury.

One of the reporters on a podcast believed this would happen before the news even broke that McFadden was a "couple weeks away". Gives them time to sort everything out and have McFadden waiting on the bench if needed Week 7. If he doesn't practice before the 4th preseason game, i think it's a good possibility.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Cleveland was the worst redzone team in the league last year, even worst then Dallas...but what do you know their running back had more TD then McFadden.

Continue on with your excuses and love fest for McFadden.....he also had less carries and yards then McFadden

Congrats, in ignorance, you just proved my point.

Cleveland was last in red zone efficiency, but take one guess as to who was ranked 30th? The Cowboys. Isiah Crowell scored 4 TDs to McFadden's 3, smh.

Dallas went from being ranked 13th in the NFL in Red Zone Scoring Attempts in 2014 (w/Romo) to 21st in the league in 2015.

Quit arguing. You're out of your depth.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Congrats, in ignorance, you just proved my point.

Cleveland was last in red zone efficiency, but take one guess as to who was ranked 30th? The Cowboys. Isiah Crowell scored 4 TDs to McFadden's 3, smh.

Dallas went from being ranked 13th in the NFL in Red Zone Scoring Attempts in 2014 (w/Romo) to 21st in the league in 2015.

Quit arguing. You're out of your depth.

You made no sense. Cleveland was last in the league in redzone and their running back scored MORE TDs then McFadden. If you can't understand that maybe you should look in the mirror before calling someone ignorant.

Again continue on with your lovefest with McFadden and his 3 TDs like he is something special

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You made no sense. Cleveland was last in the league in redzone and their running back scored MORE TDs then McFadden. If you can't understand that maybe you should look in the mirror before calling someone ignorant.

Again continue on with your lovefest with McFadden and his 3 TDs like he is something special

Hey genius (smh),

Cleveland and Dallas were ranked 32nd and 30th in the league in Red Zone Scoring Efficiency. Do you comprehend the correlation there as it relates to the topic we're discussing?

Or, is your understanding truly limited to just knowing that the number 4 is larger than the number 3?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Congrats, in ignorance, you just proved my point.

Cleveland was last in red zone efficiency, but take one guess as to who was ranked 30th? The Cowboys. Isiah Crowell scored 4 TDs to McFadden's 3, smh.

Dallas went from being ranked 13th in the NFL in Red Zone Scoring Attempts in 2014 (w/Romo) to 21st in the league in 2015.

Quit arguing. You're out of your depth.

Here is some more stats.....Denver and Minnesota just as bad as Dallas in the redzone, both playoff teams and 1 won the superbowl.....their starting running backs had 7 TDs and 11 TDs rushing.

Yep I see your point...haha

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Hey genius (smh),

Cleveland and Dallas were ranked 32nd and 30th in the league in Red Zone Scoring Efficiency. Do you comprehend the correlation there as it relates to the topic we're discussing?

Or, is your understanding truly limited to just knowing that the number 4 is larger than the number 3?

Here you go "genius"....

Mcfadden isn't special so stop it.

Career averages

McFadden
3.5 TDs per year
4.2 yards per carry
667 yards per year

Not very impressive and just for fun let's do the same for Morris

Morris
7.25 TDs per year (that's with only scoring 1 TD last year)
4.4 yards per carry
1,178 yards per year


Dude redzone had nothing to do with McFadden and his low TDs. It's actually lower then his average. Again we can get the same production if not better and cheaper from some place else

 

[Derinyar]

To me it feels like DMC and Morris should be competing for one spot. They're the two best RB2 options on the team. Neither one should be RB3 or RB4 because they don't bring upside, ST play, or specific roles on offense. Dunbar has a very defined gadget role on the offense, which I think Jackson might be able to do some of as well as being a potential between the tackles runner. Jackson is just the type of tool shed you keep around hoping he can become something. I could see Jackson being the loose player that Dunbar is, but with a bigger body.

As far as Morris vs DMC I think you have to ask yourself what you want in RB2. Do you want someone to come in and get 5-10 carries a game, most likely isolated in two series, or do you want someone who's got better third down skills. That's really the question to me. Morris is probably better for giving him 5-10 carries a game on 1st and 2nd down when running is an option. DMC is probably a better option if you want a 3 down replacement in case of extended injury to Zeke. The tie breaker to me is that Morris is a better zone runner then McFadden, and if Zeke goes down I imagine that we will see a committee back field setup that works better then either of these guys would solo anyway. For me I'm unconvinced that DMC could stay healthy over another extended stretch of starting games and while he's a better pass catcher and blocker then Morris is, I'm not sure he's exceptional at either of those to make up for what I'd call the likely advantage Morris has in the primary job of a RB, running the ball.

What do I think the Cowboys do, well if DMC clears his physical and conditioning I suspect that he makes the 53 and so does Morris. Right now its looking more and more like Dunbar will be on PUP. Which likely makes the whole conversation moot unless DMC is also on PUP then we probably have to find a 4th RB in the cuts somewhere.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Here you go "genius"....

Mcfadden isn't special so stop it.

Career averages

McFadden
3.5 TDs per year
4.2 yards per carry
667 yards per year

Not very impressive and just for fun let's do the same for Morris

Morris
7.25 TDs per year (that's with only scoring 1 TD last year)
4.4 yards per carry
1,178 yards per year


Dude redzone had nothing to do with McFadden and his low TDs. It's actually lower then his average. Again we can get the same production if not better and cheaper from some place else

Lol, smh.

So, because Morris (or any RB for that matter) has averaged 7.25 TD per year, that means he'll get that many next year? So, how did that career average work out for him last year?

And...."Dude redzone had nothing to do with McFadden and his low TDs."

Seriously, you have to be pulling my chain? Nobody can be this sincerely dense.

 

[Nightman]

Lol, smh.

So, because Morris (or any RB for that matter) has averaged 7.25 TD per year, that means he'll get that many next year? So, how did that career average work out for him last year?

And...."Dude redzone had nothing to do with McFadden and his low TDs."

Seriously, you have to be pulling my chain? Nobody can be this sincerely dense.

If you can't see that McFadden's 1089 yards were the most empty yards ever then you are just being stubborn

After 12 games he had 687 yards and we 4-12...he then got 402 meaningless yards in the last 4 games which we went 0-4.....but he got his 300k bonus for getting 1000 yards....his 1089 yards were good for 4th in one of the worst years for RBs ever.....he wouldn't have been in the top 10 in 2014 or 2013.....very empty yards with no TDs

McFadden only gets what is blocked and doesn't fit our preferred ZBS....he has no balance and goes down too easy.....he is the definition of replaceable and we have done that with EE and AMorris....

 

[Zimmy Lives]

To me it feels like DMC and Morris should be competing for one spot.

This.

Either will be the backup to Elliott. You do not draft the best back available with a top-five pick and make him sit. Morris and "DMC" are not the future; one of them has to go.