Elliot @ 4, and the cap ramifications

[CWR]

This is just a thought, but in reading about the draft and the prospects we may have a shot at, the biggest knock on Elliot is the salary we will have to pay a rookie rb @ 4.

With that being said, who cares? Our draft class will cost the same no matter the players we draft right? It's become apearent we have changed our ways in free agency and prefer to resign our own and go with home grown talent.

So if the depth is at DL and Bosa isn't flashy enough why not take the stud RB and then take advantage of a deep draft class and go DL in the second?

 

[big dog cowboy]

My biggest knock on Elliott at 4 is overpaying for a RB. It's insane to draft a RB at 4. Trade down if you can or get a elite player at another position and get Booker at 34 if you want a RB so bad.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

If the rumors are true about Elliott and parties and drugs and interviewing poorly at the combine, I doubt the Cowboys take him at #4 and probably not even in the first if they trade down.

Drug rumors, poor interview, and the de-valued RB position are not a good combination. If Elliott does not come in for an interview at Valley Ranch, then I'd say he probably won't be considered by the Cowboys in the 1st or 2nd round.

 

[Bigdog]

My biggest knock on Elliott at 4 is overpaying for a RB. It's insane to draft a RB at 4. Trade down if you can or get a elite player at another position and get Booker at 34 if you want a RB so bad.

Or Dixon in the 3rd

 

[the_h0wey]

My biggest knock on Elliott at 4 is overpaying for a RB. It's insane to draft a RB at 4. Trade down if you can or get a elite player at another position and get Booker at 34 if you want a RB so bad.

Which Elite player at 4 do you like? Injured Lb's and Oline are the only Elite players in this draft IMO. Guess we are hoping someone trades us to pick a QB

 

[CWR]

My biggest knock on Elliott at 4 is overpaying for a RB. It's insane to draft a RB at 4. Trade down if you can or get a elite player at another position and get Booker at 34 if you want a RB so bad.

Mt whole point is you are going to pay the class the same amount of money regardless of who you draft, and it's guaranteed. So the money spent doesn't change. Also you have to be careful trading down, because you just it get Julius Jones instead of Stephen Jackson.

 

[Hardline]

The best RB in this year's draft will be sitting there at 4 for the taking. Sure other RBs can be gotten in the later rounds but whenever you get the chance to get elite talent you take it.

 

[Redball Express]

If the rumors are true about Elliott and parties and drugs and interviewing poorly at the combine, I doubt the Cowboys take him at #4 and probably not even in the first if they trade down.

Drug rumors, poor interview, and the de-valued RB position are not a good combination. If Elliott does not come in for an interview at Valley Ranch, then I'd say he probably won't be considered by the Cowboys in the 1st or 2nd round.

Probably true..

Derrick Henry is coming in for interviews..that might be significant,

I also think that depending on how the draft falls..

our 2nd rd. pick could be trade back up into the first riubd if somebody falls and we want them.


While many seem to be fixated on trading back at #4..

I hear nothing being said about trading up from our #34 pick back into the 1st. Rd.

Thus giving us two #1's to draft.

Of all the scenarios I see.

that would be the best of all worlds.

 

[Sydla]

This is just a thought, but in reading about the draft and the prospects we may have a shot at, the biggest knock on Elliot is the salary we will have to pay a rookie rb @ 4.

With that being said, who cares? Our draft class will cost the same no matter the players we draft right? It's become apearent we have changed our ways in free agency and prefer to resign our own and go with home grown talent.

So if the depth is at DL and Bosa isn't flashy enough why not take the stud RB and then take advantage of a deep draft class and go DL in the second?

It's not simply about paying a rookie RB what is slotted at 4.

It's about taking what the team has said pretty clearly and applying to who they might pick at 4.

The Cowboys, over the last two years, have been very clear that they will not sink a lot of money into the RB position because they feel it has a high injury risk, players at running back take a beating and accordingly a TB's production can start to tank at any time.

So when they refuse to pony up $12MM guaranteed for Murray, then refuse to pony up $14MM guaranteed for Miller (and they had interest in him), and then you go back to what they have said about paying RBs a lot of money, it makes you wonder if they really would take a TB at 4 and guarantee him nearly $25MM.

 

[Silver N Blue]

It's not simply about paying a rookie RB what is slotted at 4.

It's about taking what the team has said pretty clearly and applying to who they might pick at 4.

The Cowboys, over the last two years, have been very clear that they will not sink a lot of money into the RB position because they feel it has a high injury risk, players at running back take a beating and accordingly a TB's production can start to tank at any time.

So when they refuse to pony up $12MM guaranteed for Murray, then refuse to pony up $14MM guaranteed for Miller (and they had interest in him), and then you go back to what they have said about paying RBs a lot of money, it makes you wonder if they really would take a TB at 4 and guarantee him nearly $25MM.

When you look at it like that probably not, which sucks. They should have just signed Miller or even forte if they truly had interest in upgrading the position.

 

[Sydla]

When you look at it like that probably not, which sucks. They should have just signed Miller or even forte if they truly had interest in upgrading the position.

I am just guessing but I think their approach might be similar to last year. McFadden, look for a mid-round guy, see if anyone shakes free in the next few months from another team, Dunbar.

I actually don't have a HUGE problem with that thinking although I think they might be rolling the dice a bit on McFadden staying healthy for a full season. I think they need another vet in here, likely not a higher priced guy, and a draft pick.

Honestly, I'd be inquiring about Foster right now. I know he's coming off a foot injury but you can probably get him real cheap and if he's not healed by camp, just cut him.

 

[Risen Star]

I laugh at those who say you can't draft a RB at 4 but have no problem wasting that pick on an irrelevant cornerback.

Who was more impactful on Sundays. DeMarco Murray or any CB that's played here since Deion Sanders?

 

[Sydla]

It's not about "can't"............... it's about whether or not they will take Elliott at 4.

I would say based on the little evidence we have, the answer to that question trends towards "no".

 

[mattjames2010]

I laugh at those who say you can't draft a RB at 4 but have no problem wasting that pick on an irrelevant cornerback.

Who was more impactful on Sundays. DeMarco Murray or any CB that's played here since Deion Sanders?

One is a premium position, the other is not. One position is easier to find in FA, in later rounds, the other is not.

"Who has more impact on Sundays" - How much impact has AP, a future HOF, had for the Vikings? How many playoffs has he been in? What is his championship total? How about rings?

No to an RB at 4. Next!

 

[starfrombirth]

Or Dixon in the 3rd

That kid Marsall out of Georgia in the 3rd

 

[jazzcat22]

If the rumors are true about Elliott and parties and drugs and interviewing poorly at the combine, I doubt the Cowboys take him at #4 and probably not even in the first if they trade down.

Drug rumors, poor interview, and the de-valued RB position are not a good combination. If Elliott does not come in for an interview at Valley Ranch, then I'd say he probably won't be considered by the Cowboys in the 1st or 2nd round.

Where did all this come from...link?

 

[casmith07]

Or Dixon in the 3rd

I don't think he'll last to the 3rd, honestly. There's going to be a run on RBs in the 2nd round.

 

[Oh_Canada]

I laugh at those who say you can't draft a RB at 4 but have no problem wasting that pick on an irrelevant cornerback.

Who was more impactful on Sundays. DeMarco Murray or any CB that's played here since Deion Sanders?

Nice to cherry pick.

I could say the same for the Jets, Revis or Shonn Greene?

Murray impacted the Cowboys for one year really, team sucked every other year he was around and in the end he had maybe four good years and now he is done.

 

[CWR]

Nice to cherry pick.

I could say the same for the Jets, Revis or Shonn Greene?

Murray impacted the Cowboys for one year really, team sucked every other year he was around and in the end he had maybe four good years and now he is done.

We watched Murray turn our crap defense into good enough because he kept the opposing offense off the field. While a truly great corner can take away a great wr it's damn near impossible to shut down half the field like Deon back in the day. There are so many damn pick plays and bent rules in favor of wrs now making it difficult for dbs. An elite running back touches the ball 20+ times a game and dictates not only his offense but the other teams offensive opportunities.

 

[mattjames2010]

We watched Murray turn our crap defense into good enough because he kept the opposing offense off the field. While a truly great corner can take away a great wr it's damn near impossible to shut down half the field like Deon back in the day. There are so many damn pick plays and bent rules in favor of wrs now making it difficult for dbs. An elite running back touches the ball 20+ times a game and dictates not only his offense but the other teams offensive opportunities.

Yeah, and he was found in the third. McCoy found in the second. Jamaal Charles, third round. Doug Martin, late first. Leveon Bell, second round. The only top 10 backs in the league right now is Gurley and Peterson. Top 15, you had Lynch who has recently retired.

You don't touch an RB in the freakin' top 5 unless they are next Barry Sanders-like prospect. Elliott is not, put this crap to bed already.

It has nothing to do with how you FEEL RBs impact a game, it's where productive RBs can be found and they are normally found late in the first or in the second and third rounds.