Ellis???? Whats this guys deal?

[SuspectCorner]

I don't think he'll gripe this off season. His effort on the field can't be denied.

Sounds like Ellis is already griping. He had a good year - but he used to hold off on that routine until around July or August. I'm a little irritated by it but figure Jerry will give his bottle, burp him, and he'll be back on the field in September...

 

[Oh_Canada]

I said it before the season and I'll say it now, the guy is a whiner and has ZERO leadership abilities....get rid of him.
Most of his sacks were garbage sacks anyhow, how many times do you remember seeing the guy blow past the tackle or power rush him in to the QB..maybe once or twice...maybe????
Besides, Spencer is going to make everyone forget about him real quick I promise you.

 

[Doomsday101]

I said it before the season and I'll say it now, the guy is a whiner and has ZERO leadership abilities....get rid of him...Spencer is going to make everyone forget about him real quick I promise you.

Players on the team seem to disagree with the preception that Ellis is not a leader. Ellis had a great season and his insecurities did nothing to hurt the team. He went out and did the job that is what he is here for.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Players on the team seem to disagree with the preception that Ellis is not a leader. Ellis had a great season and his insecurities did nothing to hurt the team. He went out and did the job that is what he is here for.

Players on the team.....like whom???
As far as production goes, the guy is a by-product of having the most feared pash rusher in the NFL on the other side...plain and simple. He will be lucky to get six sacks anywhere else.

 

[SuspectCorner]

I said it before the season and I'll say it now, the guy is a whiner and has ZERO leadership abilities....get rid of him.
Most of his sacks were garbage sacks anyhow, how many times do you remember seeing the guy blow past the tackle or power rush him in to the QB..maybe once or twice...maybe????
Besides, Spencer is going to make everyone forget about him real quick I promise you.

Do you honestly wanna bank on Spencer replacing Ellis' 12 1/2 sacks? At minimum - Ellis provides quality veteran depth on a defense that relies on pressure.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Do you honestly wanna bank on Spencer replacing Ellis' 12 1/2 sacks? At minimum - Ellis provides quality veteran depth on a defense that relies on pressure.

Hell yeah.....I can't believe the fear people have of change on this forum...the Pats and Colts do this every year (replace guys before it's too late) and by the end of the year they are always at or near the top. Spencer will be twice the player Ellis is next season you will see...let his whining, complaining, selfish arse go to the Phins or Jets...I want hungry, dedicated players on this team.

 

[khiladi]

Do you honestly wanna bank on Spencer replacing Ellis' 12 1/2 sacks? At minimum - Ellis provides quality veteran depth on a defense that relies on pressure.

Yes I do... the guy, in his senior year in college, had 26.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage, 10.5 sacks and 93 tackles. He forced 5 fumbles, recovered 1, and batted away 6 passes, and blocked one kick. He did this after his junior year, a season plagued with minor injuries.

This year was a learning curve for him and his potential is huge. On potential alone, he can outperform Greg Ellis on a consistent basis....

 

[jcollins28]

"You'd have to be dumb and blind or crazy not to realize you can't draft first-rounders and leave them on the bench,"

Cough....Bobby Carpenter.....cough....

 

[flashback]

Definitely shop him around and see what we could get. A front-line WR, a starting corner, maybe? Julius Jones' replacement? Flozell's replacement? I'd even take a draft pick if that's all we can get. He's superfluous, and he's very close to the end of his career. I bet Washington would pay him a fortune to take up a roster spot with very little production for the next 8 years. :laugh2:

 

[Alexander]

He really showed his true colors by not even allowing everyone to mourn a devastating loss.

It was unacceptable, whether he thinks he has a point or not.

 

[Concord]

You have got to be frickin kidding me.

The corpse of the Cowboys season isn't even cold and he's talking about money already.

This guy is really a moron.

If Jerry puts up with this again he's a bigger idiot than most people think.

Ellis needs to be told SHUT THE F UP...did you forget what just happened Sunday?

We just lost a devastating game and you're talking about money NOW!

In-frickin-credible.

 

[Alexander]

Players on the team seem to disagree with the preception that Ellis is not a leader. Ellis had a great season and his insecurities did nothing to hurt the team. He went out and did the job that is what he is here for.

Our players aren't recognized league-wide as having either great intellect nor strong character.

The fact they even view a person like Greg Ellis as a leader suggests the idea that they need an adjustment in their perception.

This team doesn't know what a true leader is.

I suppose it would take a Michael Irvin again to open up some people's eyes.

These phony leaders are precisely what is dragging this franchise down.

From the head coach on down, it is fundamentally weak and soft.

 

[Alexander]

Ellis needs to be told SHUT THE F UP...did you forget what just happened Sunday?

Apparently he is not concerned about that.

I mean, what leader would be?

Take care of your own insecurities, Greg. It will really help this team and organization move on.

 

[Doomsday101]

Our players aren't recognized league-wide as having either great intellect nor strong character.

The fact they even view a person like Greg Ellis as a leader suggests the idea that they need an adjustment in their perception.

This team doesn't know what a true leader is.

I suppose it would take a Michael Irvin again to open up some people's eyes.

These phony leaders are precisely what is dragging this franchise down.

From the head coach on down, it is fundamentally weak and soft.

You are entitled to your opinion. According to what I have heard he will be back.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Our players aren't recognized league-wide as having either great intellect nor strong character.

The fact they even view a person like Greg Ellis as a leader suggests the idea that they need an adjustment in their perception.

This team doesn't know what a true leader is.

I suppose it would take a Michael Irvin again to open up some people's eyes.

These phony leaders are precisely what is dragging this franchise down.

From the head coach on down, it is fundamentally weak and soft.

Can't argue with that....it's time to begin shipping the worst offenders out....Ellis, Flo, and Roy would send a clear message that selfishness, stupidity and complancency will not be tolerated.

 

[Doomsday101]

According to those at Valley Ranch the defense players do look to Ellis. Ware and Spencer have both said that Ellis was a big help to them and other along the defensive front have said the same. As I said you may not think he is a leader those at the Ranch do and I have heard them say it. I'll take their word over a fans any day of the week!!!

 

[Alexander]

You are entitled to your opinion. According to what I have heard he will be back.

I am sure he will be back.

That's besides the point.

 

[Concord]

Apparently he is not concerned about that.

I mean, what leader would be?

Take care of your own insecurities, Greg. It will really help this team and organization move on.

Apparently you're right...he's not concerned about that.

Then here's what Jerry should tell him...

Greg you're not getting even another dime out of the Cowboys, you will play when and where we need you and if we want to sit your *** on the bench and play Spencer we will. Also you aren't going anywhere else unless we let you and we aren't letting you go anywhere.

Also Greg we made a huge mistake taking you over Moss. Now get out of my office and don't come back unless I send for you.

 

[Alexander]

According to those at Valley Ranch the defense players do look to Ellis.

And people sometimes wonder why we have no killer instinct on defense.

 

[Oh_Canada]

According to those at Valley Ranch the defense players do look to Ellis. Ware and Spencer have both said that Ellis was a big help to them and other along the defensive front have said the same. As I said you may not think he is a leader those at the Ranch do and I have heard them say it. I'll take their word over a fans any day of the week!!!

What I think Alexander is trying to say that if the players think a selfish ****** like Ellis is considered a leader than things need to drastically change around Valley Ranch. He should be embarrased to talk about his contract situation one day after being upset at home to a clearly inferior team.