Elway and the Texans in a sword fight for the ages

Dale said:
I think to get anything for Romo we are going to have to exhibit patience and wait for Denver and/or Houston to crack. But with Jerry's "do right" rule and Romo already saying goodbye, I can't imagine us sitting around and waiting this out.
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I can't either.

He'll get released.
 
The problem with this sword fight of the ages is that it violates the number one rule of negotiations 101...........belief

The other side has to believe that your actually going to go through with what you are trying to negotiate. In this case, in order to force a pick from either Denver or Houston, they have to actually believe that Dallas would hold on to Romo and not release him.

Problem is that neither team believes that. They both know that Jerry is not going to hold Romo hostage and carry him and his $24 million dollar cap hit on the team this year. Its like the old saying goes, "why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free"?

Both teams know that Dallas is going to eventually release Romo and its probably going to be a lot sooner rather than later. So that is the fatal flaw in the sword fight for the ages, both teams know Romo is going to get released at some point. The only question is if they think they can outbid the other.

At this point, I highly doubt we get anything and Romo will be released sometime next week.
 
erod said:
Using Houstonian favorite fat man John McClain to run a bad information is just so......Houston. This is why that armpit is shunned by the rest of the great state of Texas.

Nevertheless, this is an interesting stare down going on between Denver, Houston, and the Cowboys.

It's as if both Denver and Houston feel like they're in the catbird seat here, so they can just wait this out. Obviously, both can't be. Or, perhaps Denver is more comfortable with their current QB situation and is just willing to let it play out.

Houston has to feel like they are Romo's preference, or they wouldn't be twiddling their thumbs here. Tom Savage is a bucket of puke, and they're too good to waste a season with his incompetence at the helm.

What Jerry needs to be doing is selling Romo on the idea of Jacksonville. Get them in the fray, and stuff will start to happen.

I suspect both Houston and Denver have told Romo not to sign anything without calling them first. But that's when they thought he was going to be released outright. Perhaps they made a gentlemen's agreement not to offer Jerry anything and just go mano-a-mano in a contract offer battle after the eventual release.

That's why this thing needs a third player bad. Jacksonville, Kansas City, Buffalo, somebody.

The draft is coming, as are minicamps and OTAs, etc. Romo needs to be in his new place by then for his sake and his new team's. A post-June 1st signing isn't ideal for the team that gets him. Having Romo or not affects draft decisions, offensive gameplanning, and other free agency decisions.

Jerry still holds a pretty good hand here, but I think this is going to take weeks. And that's just fine.

Dallas isn't sweating. This isn't that impactful for the Cowboys next season no matter how long they wait. It's Houston that is in a pinch, and Denver to a lesser extent. Bill O'Brien's job might be on the line, and I'm sure he's fed up with the crap he's being fed at quarterback.

O'Brien LOVES Tony Romo's game. I've heard him say it. I'd bet he's f-bombing those facilities in constant rapid fire. He's going to implode if he has to play Tom **** Savage next season. Might as well run the Wishbone.

Just wait them out. The Cowboys have 80 days worth of patience. Do they?
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Beast_from_East said:
The problem with this sword fight of the ages is that it violates the number one rule of negotiations 101...........belief

The other side has to believe that your actually going to go through with what you are trying to negotiate. In this case, in order to force a pick from either Denver or Houston, they have to actually believe that Dallas would hold on to Romo and not release him.

Problem is that neither team believes that. They both know that Jerry is not going to hold Romo hostage and carry him and his $24 million dollar cap hit on the team this year. Its like the old saying goes, "why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free"?

Both teams know that Dallas is going to eventually release Romo and its probably going to be a lot sooner rather than later. So that is the fatal flaw in the sword fight for the ages, both teams know Romo is going to get released at some point. The only question is if they think they can outbid the other.

At this point, I highly doubt we get anything and Romo will be released sometime next week.
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Their is not difference from a financial standpoint between cutting Romo now and cutting him right before TC. We don't sign our rookies until then so we don't really need the space until then.

The money in his deal does not kick in until the first week of the season. Games start September 7th.

We have another franchise QB and half of the fanbase still loves Romo. Meanwhile Denver and Houston know very well that they are not going to win paydirt with the QBs they have. Even better their press corps and fans know it too. As time goes by they are going to be the ones asking why they have not done anything.

Houston already showed their level of interest in buying cap space with a significant pick. We can afford to wait.
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
Their is not difference from a financial standpoint between cutting Romo now and cutting him right before TC. We don't sign our rookies until then so we don't really need the space until then.

The money in his deal does not kick in until the first week of the season. Games start September 7th.

We have another franchise QB and half of the fanbase still loves Romo. Meanwhile Denver and Houston know very well that they are not going to win paydirt with the QBs they have. Even better their press corps and fans know it too. As time goes by they are going to be the ones asking why they have not done anything.

Houston already showed their level of interest in buying cap space with a significant pick. We can afford to wait.
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I totally agree with everything you are saying my friend, but I don't know if Jerry is willing to call their bluff and hold onto Romo until training camp if need be. Romo is only going to be the good soldier for so long and when he starts going public with his dissatisfaction, I don't how Jerry is going to react.

I just don't think Jerry is going to let Romo twist in the wind, this is basically his adopted son we are talking about. Jerry once called Romo "a miracle".

Jerry is not going to play hardball with Romo, he just isn't going to do it
 
erod said:
Using Houstonian favorite fat man John McClain to run a bad information is just so......Houston. This is why that armpit is shunned by the rest of the great state of Texas.
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Holding Romo too long may affect having McCown as the backup
 
erod said:
Using Houstonian favorite fat man John McClain to run a bad information is just so......Houston. This is why that armpit is shunned by the rest of the great state of Texas.

Nevertheless, this is an interesting stare down going on between Denver, Houston, and the Cowboys.

It's as if both Denver and Houston feel like they're in the catbird seat here, so they can just wait this out. Obviously, both can't be. Or, perhaps Denver is more comfortable with their current QB situation and is just willing to let it play out.

Houston has to feel like they are Romo's preference, or they wouldn't be twiddling their thumbs here. Tom Savage is a bucket of puke, and they're too good to waste a season with his incompetence at the helm.

What Jerry needs to be doing is selling Romo on the idea of Jacksonville. Get them in the fray, and stuff will start to happen.

I suspect both Houston and Denver have told Romo not to sign anything without calling them first. But that's when they thought he was going to be released outright. Perhaps they made a gentlemen's agreement not to offer Jerry anything and just go mano-a-mano in a contract offer battle after the eventual release.

That's why this thing needs a third player bad. Jacksonville, Kansas City, Buffalo, somebody.

The draft is coming, as are minicamps and OTAs, etc. Romo needs to be in his new place by then for his sake and his new team's. A post-June 1st signing isn't ideal for the team that gets him. Having Romo or not affects draft decisions, offensive gameplanning, and other free agency decisions.

Jerry still holds a pretty good hand here, but I think this is going to take weeks. And that's just fine.

Dallas isn't sweating. This isn't that impactful for the Cowboys next season no matter how long they wait. It's Houston that is in a pinch, and Denver to a lesser extent. Bill O'Brien's job might be on the line, and I'm sure he's fed up with the crap he's being fed at quarterback.

O'Brien LOVES Tony Romo's game. I've heard him say it. I'd bet he's f-bombing those facilities in constant rapid fire. He's going to implode if he has to play Tom **** Savage next season. Might as well run the Wishbone.

Just wait them out. The Cowboys have 80 days worth of patience. Do they?
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Blimey! Some interesting nuggets here:
1. Jerry has not learnt the nuances of misdirection and garden variety propaganda. He needs to get down and dirty in the cold war of FA and know how to sell ideas to players and rivals.
2. Houston DOES NOT want to go through a season with Savage.
3. Romo needs to be in place elsewhere for the starts of OTAs and minicamps.

Such a good post that I will send you a gift basket with fruit and winter cured meats.
 
LittleD said:
I think Cleveland and Houston are big for the NE QB. Cleveland has the picks to get this done and Houston has the team to
give NE fits next year. Remains to be seen.
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I agree. But I disagree that Houston, even with a good QB, could give NE fits.
 
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