Entitlement

[xwalker]

This entitlement issue has been around for years, it didn't start with Garrett, Wade, Campo, nor Gailey. With the exception of Garrett those other coaches have come and gone but the issue is still here. Players, over that time span, have come and gone also.

There was no football related "entitlement" when Jimmy was here.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't invent scapegoats and religiously stick to them.

Blasphemer. Buy ten billboards and say ten hell jerruhs. Now go in peace.

 

[TwoDeep3]

You might as well have typed that to Ray Charles, but yeah. Couldn't be more on point.

Every ounce of failure with this team the last 16 years in all aspects of the organization can be traced right back to the lunatic owner.

That made me laugh. But then Ray would have had someone read to to him and then explain it when they were done.

In all the anecdotal incidents proffered here the missed point is Jerry "runs" this team.

While Marc Cuban knows the players, he does not run the basketball part of the franchise. He has a GM and a player personnel guy who know the product who make the final decisions.

Cuban does not overrule his coaches or GM.

Knowing the owner and speaking with the owner is not what I mean at all.

Within the last three weeks Jerry has made we comment about coaching a player. His comment included him in the coaching of this player.

When should Jerry Jones EVER coach a player on this team?

He also corrected players on who should know when the window is open or closed.

This goes ignored by some because if they actually have to process the meaning of this, then extrapolate that over the last sixteen years, then project forward, the future is bleak when this guy is trying to make football decisions.

Because he thinks he is in the process and repeatedly states he is the final decision maker.

It cannot be any more clear.

 

[TheCount]

lol @ Hos giving his own thread one star. Guess the conversation isn't going the way you envisioned?

For what it's worth, I thought it was a good observation. I just don't see how Mike Jenkins is the prime example of that. Football is still a business. When Colombo was washed up, they cut him despite what he gave his entire career here.

 

[Hostile]

lol @ Hos giving his own thread one star. Guess the conversation isn't going the way you envisioned?

For what it's worth, I thought it was a good observation. I just don't see how Mike Jenkins is the prime example of that. Football is still a business. When Colombo was washed up, they cut him despite what he gave his entire career here.

It's going exactly how I envisioned. I gave it one star so that the usual whiners can't. Glad you liked that though. I love kidding around.

 

[birdwells1]

There was no football related "entitlement" when Jimmy was here.

I agree that's why he was mentioned.

 

[birdwells1]

I am not saying the entitlement issue is new. By sheer virtue of the fact I mentioned Parcells' quote and the 18 players from a 5-11 team with radio shows that should be obvious.

Football has changed. Years ago there were very few players who saw football as a stage for them to perform. Now that is not at all the case. The TD and sack celebrations, the big hits, the constantly on TV, and even the popularity of the Draft have taught our kids that football is the spotlight.

Well, in Dallas, Texas that spotlight shines brighter than anywhere else in the nation. The entitlement era began with the big Free Agency era, skyrocketing contracts, increased popularity of the game, and yes, Jerry Jones is a contributor to all of that.

But if you imagine that there are no players feeling entitled on a team without a visible owner then you are simply deluding yourself. I guarantee you that after winning the Super Bowl and then going 15-1 that there are Green Bay players beginning to have to fight this.

Take a player like Clay Matthews for instance. Third generation player, long hair, California surfboard looks, Pro Bowls, commercials, USC Trojans background. If you can look me in the eye and say he has no sense of entitlement at all I will laugh. But the Packers have the least visible owner in any sport because there is no single, solitary majority owner.

I guarantee you Eli Manning has lived a life where he feels entitled. Look at how he acted and forced the trade from the Chargers. Look at all the commercials.

You're telling me that is because of John Mara? I can't buy that. I believe it is a trapping of youth.

Yes, in Dallas it is easy for players to get overwhelmed by these feelings. lucky for us we have a Head Coach focusing them on the team first concepts and the leadership of our best players is showing up.

It will pay dividends.

Entitlement does not mean losses will happen. It means that players get a little full of themselves. How hard is that to do when you have women throwing themselves at you, big houses, fancy cars, jewelry, and millions of dollars in income?

I consider myself a pretty down to earth guy. I drive a pickup, work with my hands, wear jeans, t-shirts, and new balance shoes. But you give me all that, and I promise you I'm going to feel entitled. Hell, at college I didn't have any of that stuff (except the girls) but me and my teammates never had to stand in line at the lunch counter at the student union and we always got extra food. I had new shoes any time I went to the trainer and asked for them. I got the big head. I had it in HS.

I don't believe there is a player walking this earth who doesn't feel some sense of it. But I am saying Parcells is right. In Dallas because we are America's team, on TV all over the country, TV Ratings higher than anyone else, big stadium, star on the helmet...he is right it can get microwaved. He is so right.

Can we overcome it? Yes. Can it derail this team? Yes. Like I said it is a trapping of youth and fame.

What do I do when we have a rock star owner/GM? Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I certainly don't whine about it. I remember when Tex Schramm was more powerful than the NFL Commissioner, who used to work for him in Los Angeles. I don't invent scapegoats and religiously stick to them. And I certainly don't think he is the only one in the country in any sport. They've been around forever.

Well if you're not going to "whine" about our owner seeking the bright lights of celebrity then you probably should whine about the players seeking the same. They're taking their que from the leader of the organization.

 

[Hostile]

Well if you're not going to "whine" about our owner seeking the bright lights of celebrity then you probably should whine about the players seeking the same. They're taking their que from the leader of the organization.

Naw, I'll leave the whining to the experts.

 

[birdwells1]

Naw, I'll leave the whining to the experts.

Remind me, who started this thread anyway?

 

[Hostile]

Remind me, who started this thread anyway?

I gave it 1 star so the whiners had nothing...obviously I did.

 

[birdwells1]

I gave it 1 star so the whiners had nothing...obviously I did.

I neither know of or care about the rating system.

 

[TheCount]

I neither know of or care about the rating system.

The rating system is pointless but the fact that some mods use it as a way to covertly spit on threads they disagree with, regardless of what discussion ensues - which are generally actually pretty good, is completely lame and a bit cowardly to be honest.

But that's just my opinion, of course. If that makes me a whiner, so be it. I've been called worse!

 

[Hostile]

The rating system is pointless but the fact that some mods use it as a way to covertly spit on threads they disagree with, regardless of what discussion ensues - which are generally actually pretty good, is completely lame and a bit cowardly to be honest.

But that's just my opinion, of course. If that makes me a whiner, so be it. I've been called worse!

Uh, your facts are off. Yes, Mods can vote on threads. So can Zone Supporters. There are a lot of perks we give to Zone Supporters. That is just one. They also see not ads. They can create polls. Etc.

The rating is nothing more than someone's opinion. No different than a reply.

I find it completely silly that people complain about a 1 star rating that probably gets it because they bash the team we are here to support. Whining about it is even sillier.

 

[ufcrules1]

Because they bash the team we are here to support.

Would you consider it bashing the team if a poster didn't think our QB was elite? Or thought we still had several weak minded players on the team? I may be bashing the team and not even knowing it.

 

[Hostile]

Would you consider it bashing the team if a poster didn't think our QB was elite? Or thought we still had several weak minded players on the team? I may be bashing the team and not even knowing it.

I'll tell you what I consider bashing the team, but recognize I cannot speak for every other poster out there. Fair enough?

I consider it bashing the team if a poster NEVER has anything good to say about any player, coach, move, or result. Unfortunately we have far too many fans who fit that description.

To me it has nothing to do with Romo, he is just part of the shooting gallery.

Now, having said that above, I think it is completely silly to think any opinion expressed here is going to get 100% approval ratings and no dissension. Therefore your opinions of Romo that you have become so defensive of are going to get bashed right back. Just like you bash the opinions of almost anyone who supports him.

Funny how that works.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'll tell you what I consider bashing the team, but recognize I cannot speak for every other poster out there. Fair enough?

I consider it bashing the team if a poster NEVER has anything good to say about any player, coach, move, or result. Unfortunately we have far too many fans who fit that description.

To me it has nothing to do with Romo, he is just part of the shooting gallery.

I tend to agree. Most of us can see the negitive and positives. When the same posters do nothing but jump on the negitive it gets old same with those who start talking SB in June

 

[ufcrules1]

I'll tell you what I consider bashing the team, but recognize I cannot speak for every other poster out there. Fair enough?

I consider it bashing the team if a poster NEVER has anything good to say about any player, coach, move, or result. Unfortunately we have far too many fans who fit that description.

To me it has nothing to do with Romo, he is just part of the shooting gallery.

Now, having said that above, I think it is completely silly to think any opinion expressed here is going to get 100% approval ratings and no dissension. Therefore your opinions of Romo that you have become so defensive of are going to get bashed right back. Just like you bash the opinions of almost anyone who supports him.

Funny how that works.

Fair enough for me. I feel you are going a little too far with saying I bash the opinions of almost anyone who supports him. Heck, I support him and root for him to do good. I want the Cowboys to win more than anything! With that said, I have no problem pointing out flaws in his game/leadership. I'm not going to ignore his 2 give away games and below average play in some others. I also won't forget the heroic games against the 49'ers and the Commanders. I don't mind people disagreeing with me at all either. It's all just our opinions. What does bug me are people who attack me and say I'm not a true fan, or try to put words in my mouth about hating Romo/Cowboys etc. Just because I don't agree with their opinions.

Pretty silly considering I'm a huge fan who is on this site year round reading and discussing everything under the sun.

 

[Hostile]

Fair enough for me. I feel you are going a little too far with saying I bash the opinions of almost anyone who supports him. Heck, I support him and root for him to do good. I want the Cowboys to win more than anything! With that said, I have no problem pointing out flaws in his game/leadership. I'm not going to ignore his 2 give away games and below average play in some others. I also won't forget the heroic games against the 49'ers and the Commanders. I don't mind people disagreeing with me at all either. It's all just our opinions. What does bug me are people who attack me and say I'm not a true fan, or try to put words in my mouth about hating Romo/Cowboys etc. Just because I don't agree with their opinions.

Pretty silly considering I'm a huge fan who is on this site year round reading and discussing everything under the sun.

As I read this in my head I thought this, "And one of the next things he is going to do is once again point out his feelings on the Lions game."

I wasn't asking you to again defend your position. I get your position. I think I have read it at least 2 dozen times.

I don't support anyone accusing others of not being a fan or to change teams. I don't like that tactic any more than I like people who hate everything about this team.

 

[ufcrules1]

I don't support anyone accusing others of not being a fan or to change teams. I don't like that tactic any more than I like people who hate everything about this team.

That is good news, because it happens all the time simply because I don't always agree with others opinions here. It's annoying, but It's ok and is expected. At the end of the day, it's just an uneducated opinion.

 

[theogt]

Uh, your facts are off. Yes, Mods can vote on threads. So can Zone Supporters. There are a lot of perks we give to Zone Supporters. That is just one. They also see not ads. They can create polls. Etc.

The rating is nothing more than someone's opinion. No different than a reply.

I find it completely silly that people complain about a 1 star rating that probably gets it because they bash the team we are here to support. Whining about it is even sillier.

I don't have (or at least dont see) an option to vote on threads.