Eric Winston would be an Upgrade

[garyv]

I honestly feel Eric Winston would immediately upgrade the OT position for the boyz and give them solid Tackles in Tyron Smith and himself. In my opinion a 3 yr/11.5 million offer would probably get it done.

 

[xwalker]

Yes, in game 1; however, if they let Parnell play, there is a good chance that he becomes a top level OT with experience. Parnell has elite physical ability but minimal experience. Winston has the experience, but some reports indicate that his body is in decline.

 

[ShiningStar]

i dont know Winston, but whats with the love fest with him? Besides telling me buzz words, what does he bring that another guy wouldnt. What am i missing here?

 

[conner01]

it all depends on how they feel about parnell. if you think he is a player then you don't want to sign winston and just let him walk after next year. if you have doubts then winston is good insurance. i think he could be signed for 3 yryrs 10.5 million. maybe even i bit less. there is no market for these guys this year

 

[AmishCowboy]

I would rather have Clabo

 

[NEODOG]

I stated earlier that Winston is a pretty smart x & o type of guy. He'd be a pretty good student teacher to any new lineman. Besides the fact he is an upgrade with being bull rushed alone. I'm not slamming Free but I believe him paired with any round 1 drafted guard or Leary is an upgrade to the line.

 

[ShiningStar]

I stated earlier that Winston is a pretty smart x & o type of guy. He'd be a pretty good student teacher to any new lineman. Besides the fact he is an upgrade with being bull rushed alone. I'm not slamming Free but I believe him paired with any round 1 drafted guard or Leary is an upgrade to the line.

this helps. thanks for the info. Now I can at least put something to the player and knowing that they are good learners or guys that can learn a new system helps.

 

[garyv]

3 to 4 million per season which in my opinion he is worth this and we can't fill every position of need in this Draft. We have to land a couple of more Free Agents and I think OT would be a good place to start. We can land a solid OG and possibly a Center in this Draft and by signing a couple of solid Free Agents we could improve our team. The Draft should land us the following:

OG, DT, Safety, Center, RB

If the Boyz will simply do their Homework they should fill these 5 needs.

 

[playmakers]

The love? How about every week for the past two seasons either Arian Foster or Ben Tate get 100 yards rushing. Granted, there's some other good lineman on that team but it would appear that at worst he's solid player.

 

[CyberB0b]

i dont know Winston, but whats with the love fest with him? Besides telling me buzz words, what does he bring that another guy wouldnt. What am i missing here?

He is cheap, available and not Free.

 

[Kristen82]

Yes, in game 1; however, if they let Parnell play, there is a good chance that he becomes a top level OT with experience. Parnell has elite physical ability but minimal experience. Winston has the experience, but some reports indicate that his body is in decline.

Winston's durable so not sure how many snaps Parnell would see as the 3rd/swing-tackle, and not sure Winston would settle for a 1-year right now. On the other hand, maybe he would knowing how deep the draft is in T's and also that post-draft some vet T's might get cut. It'll be a buyer's market for T's for the entire early part of the offseason so maybe he jumps at an offer now. Think Winston is the safer choice because he's a known quantity, and if he's willing to do a 1-year deal Parnell could serve as solid depth @ either T spot this year and work his way up to starter next year.

 

[xwalker]

Winston's durable so not sure how many snaps Parnell would see as the 3rd/swing-tackle, and not sure Winston would settle for a 1-year right now. On the other hand, maybe he would knowing how deep the draft is in T's and also that post-draft some vet T's might get cut. It'll be a buyer's market for T's for the entire early part of the offseason so maybe he jumps at an offer now. Think Winston is the safer choice because he's a known quantity, and if he's willing to do a 1-year deal Parnell could serve as solid depth @ either T spot this year and work his way up to starter next year.

Sorry, I didn't intend to indicate that Parnell would play if Winston was signed. I was trying to say that if they did not sign Winston and just let Parnell play, then he might be the better player before the end of the season.

IMO, Parnell can only get better by playing real NFL games. He has elite raw physical ability and he has had plenty of practice time. I believe that he will be a better player by playing 16 games than he would with 5 more years of practice time.

 

[dogberry]

How many sacks did the Free/Parnell experiment give up?

 

[Idgit]

Sorry, I didn't intend to indicate that Parnell would play if Winston was signed. I was trying to say that if they did not sign Winston and just let Parnell play, then he might be the better player before the end of the season.

IMO, Parnell can only get better by playing real NFL games. He has elite raw physical ability and he has had plenty of practice time. I believe that he will be a better player by playing 16 games than he would with 5 more years of practice time.

I agree with you. But how do you go about backing up the OTs, then? Veteran RT and then swing Parnell over if anything happens to Smith? Or draft a guy in the second round or below and hope you can get him ready to start at RT for you on limited reps? Or roll with Cook as your RT backup and focus on RG in VFA or the draft?

I think the team for some reason prefers Doug Free at a value contract in that swing OT role, since he's got experience at both sides and they like his work ethic and personality.That scares me, because he wasn't good enough to rely on most of last season. He may have had problems with the transition to the scheme, but I hate to see us gamble on that getting sorted out. I wish I felt better about him, because he otherwise fits the profile of what we should be looking for at that backup tackle spot.

 

[xwalker]

I agree with you. But how do you go about backing up the OTs, then? Veteran RT and then swing Parnell over if anything happens to Smith? Or draft a guy in the second round or below and hope you can get him ready to start at RT for you on limited reps? Or roll with Cook as your RT backup and focus on RG in VFA or the draft?

I think the team for some reason prefers Doug Free at a value contract in that swing OT role, since he's got experience at both sides and they like his work ethic and personality.That scares me, because he wasn't good enough to rely on most of last season. He may have had problems with the transition to the scheme, but I hate to see us gamble on that getting sorted out. I wish I felt better about him, because he otherwise fits the profile of what we should be looking for at that backup tackle spot.

The one plus with Free would be that if he takes a significant pay cut, then they wouldn't have to give out any additional guaranteed money. Most Free Agents, even a low level one like Ryan Harris would probably require some amount of guaranteed money.

With a reasonable salary (after a pay cut) they could have a draft pick compete with Free in training camp for the backup job. If they were comfortable with the draft pick, they would have the option to cut Free before the season started. They shouldn't take Free to training camp without a pay cut because he could get injured and they would be forced to part or all of his 7M salary.

 

[Venger]

He is cheap, available and not Free.

There is so much complex wordplay nuance going on here it boggles the mind...

 

[Stryker44]

No loyalty to Doug Free, the best OT the Cowboys have had since Erik Williams?

 

[CyberB0b]

There is so much complex wordplay nuance going on here it boggles the mind...

LOL I was kind of thinking that after I posted it.

 

[Doomsay]

It does seem strange that Eric only lasted one year in KC, I've seen a few games that he's played in and he looked to be a good run blocker, but I didn't get a good sense of his pass protection. He's in the upper range of penalties with 8-10 per season over the past few years (6 false starts last year). Maybe KC figured with Albert and Joeckel, they were more than fine...dunno.

Here are a few blurbs I found, does anybody have a good video compilation on him?

The biggest signing could occur on Friday. The Chiefs’ four returning offensive linemen all graded very well as pass blockers. Right tackle Barry Richardson will exit in free agency and take his -39.1 with him. Currently, the Chiefs are wooing Eric Winson, PFF’s No. 11 overall tackle. If he signs, the Chiefs will have an offensive line that is well above average in protecting the passer.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/16/fantasy-free-agent-moves-boost-matt-cassel/

With Miller doing the majority of his rushing from the left side, he’ll go up against one of the better right tackles in the league in Eric Winston. He’s 25th in the league in Pass Blocking Efficiency at 95.3 while grading at +5.2 as a run blocker. Winston has been a good free agent addition that has made the Chiefs one of the better offensive lines in the league. He’ll be charged with cooling a red hot Miller who has graded at +18.9 in the past two games alone.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/23/3tfo-broncos-chiefs-week-12/



Chiefs right tackle Eric Winston pairs with Branden Albert to form what could be the best set of tackles in the NFL. Winston has been the better run blocker of the pair, and has allowed just 25 combined pressures in 2012. The matchup clearly favors Winston and his consistent track record (zero negatively graded performances this season), but that is why they play the games.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/12/07/3tfo-chiefs-browns-week-14/

 

[Fredd]

No loyalty to Doug Free, the best OT the Cowboys have had since Erik Williams?

My God, you are probably right....and NOW I am really depressed!!!