Escobar is the definition of inconsistent

[xwalker]

Bennett contributed more. He was a blocking tight end.

Escobar is a receiving tight end that cannot block, cannot get open consistently, fumbles the football, but bless him, he has great hands!

In retrospect, they could have used an extra OLineman to do what Bennett did here. Bennett was a failure with the Cowboys in terms of being a receiver. Also, he could only function as an on the line blocker. He could not or would not learn the playbook to the point that they could use him as a move TE (blocking from the backfield and other things they like to do with the TE).

 

[xwalker]

I was really looking forward to seeing Escobar reach a new level over the course of the next few weeks, but the guy is just inconsistent. For someone who is supposed to have the best hands on the team, he seems like he is a very erratic catcher, and like Beasley he seems to have a touch of the fumbles.

It's striking me how inconsistent most of our receivers are turning out to be be outside of Witten and Bryant. I think Williams has stone hands, and Beasley definitely has a problem holding on to the ball based on his number of catches.

I know after Romo going down even more people will want a QB drafted high, but at this point I want another WR high and/or a RB or T. Hell QB is probably the last position of need in my mind. I think a very sloppy game put Romo and continued risk. Dropped passes, WRs struggling to get open, offensive linemen/tight ends getting false starts... You run the score early, and you can keep your QB clean.

I know you needed to create another new thread, but this subject if off base.

Escobar had 1 fumble.

Williams has has 1 pure drop. His other in-completions were good plays by defenders to get their hands on the ball.

Beasley had 1 fumble, IIRC.

 

[rockj7]

He needs to set himself apart like the Patriots Hernandez did......

lmao

 

[CATCH17]

If Witten is out then I'm betting on Escobar in fantasy..

That's about how much I think of his "inconsistency".

 

[CowboyStar88]

Could have had a line of Smith Warford Frederick Martin Collins.

I lamented this until the day he debuted the Butcher stache.

I now stand corrected. It was a poor evaluation on my part.

We could have a line just as good if not better and Escobar

Smith Leary Fred Martin Collins and Escobar

RS stop beating a dead horse it's been buried and we have the ability to build a better line. Let's not act like Leary is some chump the dude is a legit power guy that can move.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I don't see how a guy who has caught 7 TD's in 2 seasons and 1 fumble is this crazy definition of inconsistant as you claim. They are using him in different situations that he may just not be comfortable with yet. I think this is a huge stretch on your part IMO and complete fallacy.

 

[Future]

How inconsistent can you be when you only get targeted 3 times a game?

 

[JIGGYFLY]

No, he would not because he cannot block to save his life.

He would be a second TE on practically every team except those that are very deficient at the position and do not ask the tight end to be versatile.

A TE is not just a bigger WR on all teams. Look at Graham. He is practically invisible in Seattle because of the fit.

He is not a lot different than Scott Chandler. And we had him for nothing.

Escobar has turned himself into a adequate blocker he is not a liability anymore.

 

[KJJ]

I was really looking forward to seeing Escobar reach a new level over the course of the next few weeks, but the guy is just inconsistent. For someone who is supposed to have the best hands on the team, he seems like he is a very erratic catcher, and like Beasley he seems to have a touch of the fumbles.

Best hands on the team? First time I've heard that he had a terrible drop in preseason where his hands looked like they were made of Kevlar.

 

[KJJ]

Although Bennett had only four TD catches in his four seasons here. Escobar has seven TD catches in two seasons plus two games.

Bennett's 4 TD's all came in one season his rookie year. He had more catches that season than Escobar had his first 2 seasons.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

Best hands on the team? First time I've heard that he had a terrible drop in preseason where his hands looked like they were made of Kevlar.

And Dez had a terrible drop against the Giants.

Drops happen do you want to point out all of his other kevlar hand drops?

 

[KJJ]

And Dez had a terrible drop against the Giants.

Drops happen do you want to point out all of his other kevlar hand drops?

Drops happen but I've never seen Escobar make some of the outstanding catches Dez has made. I've seen TWill make some outstanding catches most notably the one vs Seattle last season. You can point to a number of drops with Dez but he's had many more opportunities than Escobar who's rarely targeted.

 

[KJJ]

The cowboys havent been using him properly and you guys are complaining about the player.

He hasn't had much opportunity as a receiver but with Dez out and the Cowboys needing a redzone threat he's getting more of an opportunity now.

 

[Nightman]

The regrets about Fasano, MartyB and Escobar are all about the price we paid and not their abilities.

They were all 2nd picks for a back-up. It is bad drafting IMO to use high picks for pure backups or special packages.

Escobar could have been Eddie Lacy, Leveon Bell or Christine Michael.

 

[JIGGYFLY]

Drops happen but I've never seen Escobar make some of the outstanding catches Dez has made. I've seen TWill make some outstanding catches most notably the one vs Seattle last season. You can point to a number of drops with Dez but he's had many more opportunities than Escobar who's rarely targeted.

That catch he made down the seem against the Giants last year was outstanding.

You were the one mocking him being regarded as having great hands by one drop, what was your point?

 

[KJJ]

That catch he made down the seem against the Giants last year was outstanding.

You were the one mocking him being regarded as having great hands by one drop, what was your point?

That was a terrific catch against the Giants but my point is that I'm not buying that he has the best hands on the team which apparently someone on the board heard or read. I'm not saying Escobar has lousy hands but do you honestly think he has the best hands on the team? I've seen him make one terrific catch in a game and I need to see more than that to proclaim he has the best hands on the team. It must be what's been seen of him in practice because he hasn't shown the best hands on the team in games.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I was really looking forward to seeing Escobar reach a new level over the course of the next few weeks, but the guy is just inconsistent. For someone who is supposed to have the best hands on the team, he seems like he is a very erratic catcher, and like Beasley he seems to have a touch of the fumbles.

It's striking me how inconsistent most of our receivers are turning out to be be outside of Witten and Bryant. I think Williams has stone hands, and Beasley definitely has a problem holding on to the ball based on his number of catches.

I know after Romo going down even more people will want a QB drafted high, but at this point I want another WR high and/or a RB or T. Hell QB is probably the last position of need in my mind. I think a very sloppy game put Romo and continued risk. Dropped passes, WRs struggling to get open, offensive linemen/tight ends getting false starts... You run the score early, and you can keep your QB clean.

And why would he reach a new level with Witten here? Even with Dez out he is still probably the 5th option in the passing game.

Witten, Williams, Beasley, RB.

How many times was he really targetted? 3 or 4 times?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I was really looking forward to seeing Escobar reach a new level over the course of the next few weeks, but the guy is just inconsistent. For someone who is supposed to have the best hands on the team, he seems like he is a very erratic catcher, and like Beasley he seems to have a touch of the fumbles.

It's striking me how inconsistent most of our receivers are turning out to be be outside of Witten and Bryant. I think Williams has stone hands, and Beasley definitely has a problem holding on to the ball based on his number of catches.

I know after Romo going down even more people will want a QB drafted high, but at this point I want another WR high and/or a RB or T. Hell QB is probably the last position of need in my mind. I think a very sloppy game put Romo and continued risk. Dropped passes, WRs struggling to get open, offensive linemen/tight ends getting false starts... You run the score early, and you can keep your QB clean.

He needs to improve certainly. His hands are not as consistent as they have been his first two years. OTOH, he is pretty damn consistent run blocking now. I have seen him stood up by a DE once but overall week 1 I thought he dominated Selvie, Ayers, and the Giants LBers. This past week Barwin and Kendricks offered a tougher test but he sustained blocks regularly if not overpowering.

It was a string of penalties and whiffs from 68, 70 and 73 that kept torpedoing the offense. 71 provided a better front when he came in I thought.

Back to 89, it appears to me that his arm strength is better and it pays off in pass protection. He latches on with long arms and he is flexible/strong enough to direct.

What I think happened here is similar to what happened with Hanna in his third year of the weight program. It's pretty clear that both guys dedicated to become better blockers. Difference is that Hanna never showed the pass catching ability. Still hasn't as he doesn't seem to have good lateral agility. He pays for it allowing guys to get on his shoulder and past him in pass protection too.

Maybe Escobar's hands regressed or maybe he needs a little more time to put it all together. I think it is pretty clear he is the second best TE on the roster,

 

[rags747]

Seems to me Escobar has made some serious catches for us so yes I would say his hands are outstanding. He is definitely not a body catcher, it's all hands. Can even look at his td vs the Giants in wk1...just snatched that ball out if the air like he was a receiver, pretty good for a big man. Bennett for all his potential never offered much except as a blocker. Let's see if Escobar gets more targets with Weeden as QB, we are going to need some serious production from him for the next several weeks.

 

[dallasdave]

I was really looking forward to seeing Escobar reach a new level over the course of the next few weeks, but the guy is just inconsistent. For someone who is supposed to have the best hands on the team, he seems like he is a very erratic catcher, and like Beasley he seems to have a touch of the fumbles.

It's striking me how inconsistent most of our receivers are turning out to be be outside of Witten and Bryant. I think Williams has stone hands, and Beasley definitely has a problem holding on to the ball based on his number of catches.

I know after Romo going down even more people will want a QB drafted high, but at this point I want another WR high and/or a RB or T. Hell QB is probably the last position of need in my mind. I think a very sloppy game put Romo and continued risk. Dropped passes, WRs struggling to get open, offensive linemen/tight ends getting false starts... You run the score early, and you can keep your QB clean.

Time for Swaim to step up and be the Man !!!