Escobar's single snap

[Trouty]

I disagree on MartyB not being given a legit chance. There were years that John Phillips got snaps over him because he didn't know the offense. Physically, Phillips was not remotely close to MartyB's talent either blocking or catching, yet he got plenty of snaps.

MartyB has said that he expected to replace Witten as the #1 TE during his rookie season. When it didn't happen he put in less effort and just bided his time until he could go to another team or until Witten got injured.

I followed MartyB closely back then because I thought he would become a star player. I still remember going to training camp during his 2nd season. His physical abilities were incredible. I thought he one of the most talented players that I had seen at any position. In receiving drills he ran like a WR and could just pluck the ball out of the air with 1 hand while surrounded by defenders. His blocking was better than some offensive linemen that were in camp. He literally could have played a game as an OT with better results than with some guys the Cowboys have tried at OT over the years.

He's been playing great this season in NE, 2 games with over 100 yds receiving, and with two separate QBs (including one 100 yd rec game with a very mediocre Brissett).

Now that Brady is back, Belichick and Co are extremely giddy at the prospect of he and the Gronk and the absolute mismatches they will pose. Brady loves his TE's and will feast on the AFC with dem two.

http://www.patspulpit.com/2016/10/5...onkowski-martellus-bennett-tight-end-patriots

The Jedi has also gotten him to stay focused and out of the media limelight, something most of his other coaches have not been able to do. One of his biggest flaws -- his mouth, and at times a lack of focus. The Jedi isn't having it.

Gonna have an amazing season.

 

[jterrell]

Yes, that is a real pisser.

especially since we just can;t find a running back anywhere....

if we are gonna bemoan picks how bout a DL like Bennie Logan that we also liked.
a suspended RB doesn't really make me weep.

 

[jterrell]

The issue with Escobar is pretty simple. Cole Beasley beat him out.
We run 11 instead of 12 because Cole is that much better than Escobar.

 

[Trouty]

The issue with Escobar is pretty simple. Cole Beasley beat him out.
We run 11 instead of 12 because Cole is that much better than Escobar.

Well he's certainly better than Esco at running the short slant a small outs (tho, he's certainly flashed [cosistently] on a variety of intermediate routes, and that deep route against CHI -- but that's not his game [deep routes]). Escobar is more effective at the intermediate posts and outs, which Dak just isn't having much of right now. Well, he is, but you get my point. He's feasting on the smaller routes and the YAC that Beasley and co are producing. He'll get there, he's flashed on those longer passes more than enough, but I digress.

Escobar, as noted by a poster earlier in the thread, has an amazing catch radius and it's confounding that we haven't found a way to implement him into our game. But it is what it is, dude has a HoF in front of him on the depth chart, and Swaim, who has incredible chemistry with Dak.

Wonder if we see more Esco when Romo comes back, or if he just fades away on the roster and ends up killing it for another team starting next season. I still believe Esco has a high ceiling, not a popular view on this board. But many well made points in here, both ways.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Well he's certainly better than Esco at running the short slant a small outs (tho, he's certainly flashed [cosistently] on a variety of intermediate routes, and that deep route against CHI -- but that's not his game [deep routes]). Escobar is more effective at the intermediate posts and outs, which Dak just isn't having much of right now. Well, he is, but you get my point. He's feasting on the smaller routes and the YAC that Beasley and co are producing. He'll get there, he's flashed on those longer passes more than enough, but I digress.

Escobar, as noted by a poster earlier in the thread, has an amazing catch radius and it's confounding that we haven't found a way to implement him into our game. But it is what it is, dude has a HoF in front of him on the depth chart, and Swaim, who has incredible chemistry with Dak.

Wonder if we see more Esco when Romo comes back, or if he just fades away on the roster and ends up killing it for another team starting next season. I still believe Esco has a high ceiling, not a popular view on this board. But many well made points in here, both ways.

It's just as confounding that Kellen Moore was ahead of Dak. If it wasn't for a freak accident, we would have never seen Dak in action. I actually think, the coaching staff had kellen Moore as back up to rumor because he has more experience in the system, and Dak is a rookie. If they based it on talent, then we have a reeeeal problem.

 

[Trouty]

It's just as confounding that Kellen Moore was ahead of Dak. If it wasn't for a freak accident, we would have never seen Dak in action. I actually think, the coaching staff had kellen Moore as back up to rumor because he has more experience in the system, and Dak is a rookie. If they based it on talent, then we have a reeeeal problem.

Preach it, brotha! SMDH at the thought of Kellen leading this team through the first 8 weeks of the season...

 

[jterrell]

Well he's certainly better than Esco at running the short slant a small outs (tho, he's certainly flashed [cosistently] on a variety of intermediate routes, and that deep route against CHI -- but that's not his game [deep routes]). Escobar is more effective at the intermediate posts and outs, which Dak just isn't having much of right now. Well, he is, but you get my point. He's feasting on the smaller routes and the YAC that Beasley and co are producing. He'll get there, he's flashed on those longer passes more than enough, but I digress.

Escobar, as noted by a poster earlier in the thread, has an amazing catch radius and it's confounding that we haven't found a way to implement him into our game. But it is what it is, dude has a HoF in front of him on the depth chart, and Swaim, who has incredible chemistry with Dak.

Wonder if we see more Esco when Romo comes back, or if he just fades away on the roster and ends up killing it for another team starting next season. I still believe Esco has a high ceiling, not a popular view on this board. But many well made points in here, both ways.

i like Escobar and have stated numerous times I'd use him more.
i think his size gives you an even bigger target than witten and could be invaluable.
i don't see how a guy that is 6'7" is really ever covered in this league.

but cole is wide the heck open and qb's love the dude.

it just is what it is.

 

[Trouty]

i like Escobar and have stated numerous times I'd use him more.
i think his size gives you an even bigger target than witten and could be invaluable.
i don't see how a guy that is 6'7" is really ever covered in this league.

but cole is wide the heck open and qb's love the dude.

it just is what it is.

Agreed, brother.

 

[bsbellomy]

Yet ANOTHER wasted 2nd round pick. That's THREE FREAKING TIGHT ENDS drafted in the 2nd round, and NOT A SINGLE ONE is/was worth a damn.

My God.

To be fair, Bennett has panned out ok just not for us

 

[tayloner]

You think they cut him straight up?

Maybe there's some value in keeping him on the roster for a potential comp. pick, but I doubt he'll sign for enough money anywhere after so little playtime this year to make it worth it. Might not be cut right away, but if the other tight ends stay healthy including Hanna I'd be surprised to see him finish out the year on the roster.

 

[NextGenBoys]

To be fair, Bennett has panned out ok just not for us

Well yeah, but he didn't do anything for us. That's all I care about lol.