News: ESPN: Archer: Why Dak Prescott has become the Cowboys' new Tony Romo

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The cult of Romo is just strong in this thread. I don't get it. After those play-in game losses I was so done with Romo. He wasn't even trying to beat championship teams to get in. Everytime he played in a playoff game I never had any expectation that he would win. I know outside of Cowboy nation he's a big joke. The guy was a good QB but very flawed. I mean I might put him ahead of Dak but it wouldn't be by much. I think Romo got better in the playoffs as he got older and Dak's gotten worse. Romo's best season IMO was 2014 and that's after we committed to the run with Murray. Murray was the real MVP of that season but of course Cowboy fans gave it all to Romo. And of course after Murray left and some thought any old RB could do it then Romo got hurt trying to do everything again. Maybe if Dak had a quality running game he would play better too. Don't know. All I know is that lately he has that deer in the headline look so I'm done with him. Time to move on and hope the next QB is better. It won't be. This team won't win anything as long as Jerry is in charge. He's the real culprit in all this. We have to have an elite QB to have any shot and we haven't had one since the bus driver Aikman.
 
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We would have lost that game anyway and I think Dez caught it. More than enough time for AR to score again.
Maybe they would have, maybe not. What’s not a maybe in Romo played amazing in a divisional game in the cold in Green Bay. But, you’re correct we will never know. The Cowboys won because of their offense that year and the defense probably would have given up a score. But, if Dez doesn’t reach for the end zone, goes down with the ball they can burn 40 more seconds and run it in. Tough game to look back at. It’s a game of inches!
 

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He also dropped a snap that unfortunately defined his legacy from the outset.
The "greased ball" defined the snake-bitten career. Visionary history didn't just start with Dak. Who you gonna get to rid us of the QB Curse? Who?
 

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I can’t convince you a 13 win team losing to a 9 win team is a choke job….if you don’t understand that I can’t help you.
First off the Giants were 10-6. So if you're going to make any attempt at a debate atleast get the basic stuff correct. Both the Cowboys and Giants entered the 2007 season with the same strength of schedule but we all know this means nothing really. Simply goes by last years opponents W/L records. Doesn't take into account on preseason trades, drafts, FA, retirements and etc. In the end the Giants actually faced a tougher schedule based on team win percentage.

Even provided a quick synopsis why the Packers and Giants games were in two completely different realms of being any thing alike.

You simply post like you watch highlight reels on espn and the click bait media heads and have no idea what you're talking about
 

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First off the Giants were 10-6. So if you're going to make any attempt at a debate atleast get the basic stuff correct. Both the Cowboys and Giants entered the 2007 season with the same strength of schedule but we all know this means nothing really. Simply goes by last years opponents W/L records. Doesn't take into account on preseason trades, drafts, FA, retirements and etc. In the end the Giants actually faced a tougher schedule based on team win percentage.

Even provided a quick synopsis why the Packers and Giants games were in two completely different realms of being any thing alike.

You simply post like you watch highlight reels on espn and the click bait media heads and have no idea what you're talking about
Oh I remember the Giants game very well. Actually it’s posted here quite frequently you should watch it. You will see how much we underachieved that game and how many opportunities we had but we choked.

And you are right. They won 10 games. Yeah I can see your point now. 13 wins and 10 wins are damn near the same….. :facepalm: :muttley:
 

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Oh I remember the Giants game very well. Actually it’s posted here quite frequently you should watch it. You will see how much we underachieved that game and how many opportunities we had but we choked.

And you are right. They won 10 games. Yeah I can see your point now. 13 wins and 10 wins are damn near the same….. :facepalm: :muttley:
That was not your initial point. You pointed out they both chocked as they had similar post season records and all Romo had to do was score "21" points.

Both chocking couldn't be more wrong. Romo played well enough where we should have cruised to a two score win. Dropped TD pass, stopping the route short on a walk in TD to win the game and crayton dropping a huge 1st down that would have been 40+ yards or argurably a TD.

If you want to nitpick the recieving corps lost the team the game. I wouldn't have an argument or debate if Dak had a similar game or circumstances. Dak just sucked completely and put the defense even in more of a predicament.

But you can back track all you want to try and save face
 

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That was not your initial point. You pointed out they both chocked as they had similar post season records and all Romo had to do was score "21" points.

Both chocking couldn't be more wrong. Romo played well enough where we should have cruised to a two score win. Dropped TD pass, stopping the route short on a walk in TD to win the game and crayton dropping a huge 1st down that would have been 40+ yards or argurably a TD.

If you want to nitpick the recieving corps lost the team the game. I wouldn't have an argument or debate if Dak had a similar game or circumstances. Dak just sucked completely and put the defense even in more of a predicament.

But you can back track all you want to try and save face
Nobody is back tracking you are just in defense mode of Romo. I’m not familiar with you as you seem to be with me I don’t know if you’re just a Romo fan defending your guy or if you’re just anti Dak.

A prime example is “good enough”….what? You don’t win Super Bowls being good enough. That goes for Dak too. Simply being “good enough” is a choke job and it’s why Eli has two rings. He wasn’t good enough he played over his head. The playoffs is where you play as good as you can or better. Not “good enough”. “Good enough” is a choke job.
 

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Nobody is back tracking you are just in defense mode of Romo. I’m not familiar with you as you seem to be with me I don’t know if you’re just a Romo fan defending your guy or if you’re just anti Dak.

A prime example is “good enough”….what? You don’t win Super Bowls being good enough. That goes for Dak too. Simply being “good enough” is a choke job and it’s why Eli has two rings. He wasn’t good enough he played over his head. The playoffs is where you play as good as you can or better. Not “good enough”. “Good enough” is a choke job.

Not all quarterbacks play above their means in the playoffs in every game. Why it's a "team" game. You always think Brady and etc always played lights out? Of course not he got carried by his defense multiple games / superbowl. Eli had a great run but got bailed out by his defense also. Foles caught lightning in a bottle for the Eagles superbowl. So to single out "good enough" is a comp out. If the recivers didn't drop TDs, 1st downs and a go ahead TD Romo stats would have been incredible. Hence why looking at stats at face value is a trash way to debate

I'm a fan of any quarterback that plays for the Cowboys but Romo was a far superior quaterback then Dak even though they share similar post season records on paper. Why I called you out for looking at things at face value and trying to make any attempt in proving a point because you couldn't be any more wrong. If it was the other way around I would be saying Romo sucked
 

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Not all quarterbacks play above their means in the playoffs in every game. Why it's a "team" game. You always think Brady and etc always played lights out? Of course not he got carried by his defense multiple games / superbowls. Eli had a great run but got bailed out by his defense also. Foles caught lightning on a bottle for the Eagles superbowl. So to single out "good enough" is a comp out.

I'm a fan of any quarterback that plays for the Cowboys but Romo was a far superior quaterback then Dak even though they share similar post season records on paper. Why I called you out at looking at things at date value because you couldn't be any more wrong
I watched every single game Dak and Romo played. And they are the same. Exact same. I’m not arguing over who is better. That’s subjective. Both of these guys have not been good enough to win a SB. Romo some years wasn’t even good enough to even get to the damn playoffs.

Romo is not superior than anyone. Brady can make that claim. Rodgers can. Mahomes can. Romo can probably say he’s superior to Quincy I guess. Yay.
As far as guys don’t play above their mean? I saw Flacco do it. I saw Nick Foles do it. Cam did it despite losing a SB. Eli did it two runs. Stafford did it.

Did you miss these runs or do you not consider these guys playing at a high level in these runs?
 

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Romo didn't play terribly in any of his playoff games. He did play bad against Minnesota in 2009. Played really good against philly in 2009 to get into the playoffs and really good again to beat Philly the next week. Played good against the Giants in 2007, led a 9 minute drive to take the lead before half and the defense let the Giants score in 43 seconds. Hit Patrick Crayton for a wide open touchdown (no one within 30 yards) and Crayton dropped it. Played really good against Detroit is 2014 and had a 143 rating in the cold against Green bay. Dak has played putrid in the majorty of his playoff games. His play cost the team games. Romo's did not. Not the same at all.
Nobody is going to care about your facts. Romo is the scapegoat. Even for people desperately trying to protect Dak from the same thing.
 

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Oh I remember the Giants game very well. Actually it’s posted here quite frequently you should watch it. You will see how much we underachieved that game and how many opportunities we had but we choked.

And you are right. They won 10 games. Yeah I can see your point now. 13 wins and 10 wins are damn near the same….. :facepalm: :muttley:
Right on cue.
 

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Annual reminder of what should have been the game-winning pass with 17 seconds left vs eventual Super Bowl Champ Giants

That was not a choke by the QB. That was a clutch drive and clutch throw in clutch time with a bad result

2007
 

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I watched every single game Dak and Romo played. And they are the same. Exact same. I’m not arguing over who is better. That’s subjective. Both of these guys have not been good enough to win a SB. Romo some years wasn’t even good enough to even get to the damn playoffs.

Romo is not superior than anyone. Brady can make that claim. Rodgers can. Mahomes can. Romo can probably say he’s superior to Quincy I guess. Yay.
As far as guys don’t play above their mean? I saw Flacco do it. I saw Nick Foles do it. Cam did it despite losing a SB. Eli did it two runs. Stafford did it.

Did you miss these runs or do you not consider these guys playing at a high level in these runs?
The teams Romo dragged to 8-8 you would have hard pressed to find 2 maybe 3 quartebacks that would have done the same. Romo worked with some trash talent for years. IMO Dak probably wins 4 games with those teams

So it's laughable to even bring that up. I was comparing Dak and Romo so stay focused on who's better not any other quartrback.
 

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The teams Romo dragged to 8-8 you would have hard pressed to find 2 maybe 3 quartebacks that would have done the same. Romo worked with some trash talent for years. IMO Dak probably wins 4 games with those teams

So it's laughable to even bring that up. I was comparing Dak and Romo so stay focused on who's better not any other quartrback.
32nd ranked defense.
Worst in Cowboy history
 

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The cult of Romo is just strong in this thread. I don't get it. After those play-in game losses I was so done with Romo. He wasn't even trying to beat championship teams to get in. Everytime he played in a playoff game I never had any expectation that he would win. I know outside of Cowboy nation he's a big joke. The guy was a good QB but very flawed. I mean I might put him ahead of Dak but it wouldn't be by much. I think Romo got better in the playoffs as he got older and Dak's gotten worse. Romo's best season IMO was 2014 and that's after we committed to the run with Murray. Murray was the real MVP of that season but of course Cowboy fans gave it all to Romo. And of course after Murray left and some thought any old RB could do it then Romo got hurt trying to do everything again. Maybe if Dak had a quality running game he would play better too. Don't know. All I know is that lately he has that deer in the headline look so I'm done with him. Time to move on and hope the next QB is better. It won't be. This team won't win anything as long as Jerry is in charge. He's the real culprit in all this. We have to have an elite QB to have any shot and we haven't had one since the bus driver Aikman.
Dude really? You got like three lies in the first few sentences. He most certainly is not a "joke" outside of cowboys. In fact it's the opposite.

These are NOT all Cowboys fans commenting here:



You want to call Romo a choker but him putting the team on his back is why they had a chance to begin with. THE TEAM...always found a way to lose it....only rarely Romo's fault. Check DFWJC...and tell me that was Romo ****** it up. If we had a defense Romo would have had an epic win against Peyton's Broncos. Went back out time and time again...until finally the numbers caught up with him.

I'm not too sure about playoffs....but I do remember staying up late MANY a Sundays and Monday....because I always believed there was a chance with Romo. He was ALWAYS gonna try. But of course sometimes you fail.

People like you remember ONLY those.
 

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The teams Romo dragged to 8-8 you would have hard pressed to find 2 maybe 3 quartebacks that would have done the same. Romo worked with some trash talent for years. IMO Dak probably wins 4 games with those teams

So it's laughable to even bring that up. I was comparing Dak and Romo so stay focused on who's better not any other quartrback.
I was focused on who was a choker which is both of them..if you want to argue which crap smells better have at it. Crap is still crap.
 
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