News: ESPN: Cowboys make switch in war room; McClay to prepare draft board

[Vanilla2]

But if it works, then who's decision was it?

Garrett.

It's well known that if it's a good move it had to of been the coach.

 

[Bungarian]

This forum should put together our own draft board. We could all make one and then average them out to make a finished board.

 

[WoodysGirl]

This forum should put together our own draft board. We could all make one and then average them out to make a finished board.

That's actually not a bad idea and something you should present to the folks who live and breathe in the Draft Zone. Your issue would be trying to get a consensus.

You should consider presenting a CZ Top 100 or something along those lines.

 

[Picksix]

Whoever is in charge of evaluating pro personnel has the easiest job in the NFL. With no cap room and all this restructuring being done. There is no room to sign any players.

Seeing as how we had to sign one player after another to replace all the ones we lost to injury, given those restrictions, seems it would be the toughest.

 

[junk]

For those who don't get it, Will McClay and Tom Ciskowski are your "GM Team."

I think you are hung up on titles.

I have no idea why Dallas has to have such a screwed up front office. Hey, we've struggled for almost 2 decades. Maybe we should look around the league and see what works? Naw, we'll have a "GM team" made up of a former Arena league coach/1 year Jags scout and a Cowboys lifer who somehow lasted through some of the most unsuccessful draft years in recent Cowboys history (I think the pass for digging up Larry Allen might have expired by now).

Ciskowski had some pretty miserable years as an area scout.

Players drafted from the Southeast when he was a scout in that region (1998-2000)
Greg Ellis, Michael Myers, Darren Hambrick, Izell Reese, Antonio Fleming, Ebenezer Ekuban, Peppi Zellner, Dwayne Goodrich and Orantes Grant

Players drafted from the West when he was a scout in that region (1993-1998)
Brock Marion, Shante Carver, Larry Allen, Eric Bjornsen, Ed Hervey, Ryan Wood, Steve Scifres, Kenny Wheaton, Lee Vaughn, Omar Stoutmire
.

 

[CowboysLegend365]

Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic.

Lmao.

 

[Wolf2k5]

That's actually not a bad idea and something you should present to the folks who live and breathe in the Draft Zone. Your issue would be trying to get a consensus.

You should consider presenting a CZ Top 100 or something along those lines.

Except most o the Debbie downers won't sign off on it and have proof of their ok on something they want to talk down about later. People would rather wait till someone fails (sometimes not even wait long) before they label it the "dumbest draft pick ever"

 

[Hoofbite]

Not even sure why this matters. They'll overrule the board in a heartbeat.

 

[SportsGuru80]

McClay is a very good football mind, this is big news.

 

[Redball Express]

The switch last year had Ciskowski spending more time evaluating pro talent and McClay focusing on college talent. So it only makes sense that McClay sets up the draft board instead of Ciskowski.

It doesn't mean squat.

Once Jerrah sees a player he's ready to select start dropping in the first 10 spots he's going to move up and overpay him.

The order of the names is nothing but a smokeescren to Jerrah.

 

[xwalker]

It doesn't mean squat.

Once Jerrah sees a player he's ready to select start dropping in the first 10 spots he's going to move up and overpay him.

The order of the names is nothing but a smokeescren to Jerrah.

Ciskowski had a rule about not letting his scouts consider need when ranking players. He wanted a "pure" draft board that didn't account for need because he knew that at draft time the decision makers would consider need. If need was already included in the draft board, then they would be double emphasizing need in the process.

People flipped out about the Cowboys not following their draft board in the past; however, the Cowboys draft board did not have the same meaning as some other team's draft boards. If another team includes need when making their draft board, then that team should draft exactly to their board. In the Cowboys situation, it was by design that they wouldn't draft exactly according to their board. If the leaked draft board had been a need based board, then the actual picks and the board would have been more in sync.

 

[theSHOW]

Besides having any authority to make a personnel decision or hiring or firing a coach and having to report to people higher up in the football operations, they are just like GMs.

The similarities are uncanny.

I like this risen star dude. I'm a pretty knowledgeable football fan and I seem to get a new perspective in a lot of rs's comments. Not to say we can't go at it on different topics as many have ideas that don't make sense to others.

 

[theSHOW]

This forum should put together our own draft board. We could all make one and then average them out to make a finished board.

And Jeery could draft the 2nd round pick that normally goes to TE as "our CZ vote"

 

[CaptainCreed]

Broaddus mentioned on twitter that McClay will likely be more willing to take "gray area/character risk" players, so at least expect less players to be completely left off the board.

 

[Gaede]

Broaddus mentioned on twitter that McClay will likely be more willing to take "gray area/character risk" players, so at least expect less players to be completely left off the board.

I saw that. Really like that as well.

One thing that bugs me is the 'right kind of guy' crap. Last time we took a risk on a guy we got Bryant--and he is one of the best players on the team. It's all about calculated risk. Not avoiding risk altogether.

 

[Wheeltax]

I went to do some reading about Will McClay since I didn't know much about him, and that lead to reading about the Desperados franchise. TIL that before Desperados was the team's name, Jerry Jones apparently owned and sold the rights to the "Texans" name to Houston for $10m. Dang, Jerry.

 

[Corso]

I went to do some reading about Will McClay since I didn't know much about him, and that lead to reading about the Desperados franchise. TIL that before Desperados was the team's name, Jerry Jones apparently owned and sold the rights to the "Texans" name to Houston for $10m. Dang, Jerry.

Wish I could sell a name for 10 million dollars...

Cuddlehuggins! Yours!

10 Milly Milly playaaaaa!

Thank you sir... count the money... counting the money... ... ...

That's a lot of money to count!

Still counting...

YOURS! FOR TEN MILLY! "CUDDLEHUGGINS"!

I'll take low denomination, non-marked bills please...

 

[xwalker]

I went to do some reading about Will McClay since I didn't know much about him, and that lead to reading about the Desperados franchise. TIL that before Desperados was the team's name, Jerry Jones apparently owned and sold the rights to the "Texans" name to Houston for $10m. Dang, Jerry.

Link?

Everything I find on the internet says that Houston's owner Bob McNair had to make a deal with Lamar Hunt. Hunt was the owner of the Dallas Texans that became the KC Chiefs.

 

[Wheeltax]

Well there is this entry on the Desperados Wiki page:

During a halftime interview at a Cowboys preseason game on August 12, 2000, Jerry Jones revealed to Babe Laufenberg that the AFL had granted him an expansion franchise to begin play in 2002. The team was originally going to be named the "Dallas Texans", following in the footsteps of Dallas’ former AFL franchise which existed from 1990-1993. However, that same year he sold the rights to the name "Texans" for a reported $10 million to the new Houston franchise. After a contest in which fans voted via the team’s official website, the new Dallas team was eventually named the Desperados. Jones appointed Cowboys special teams coach Joe Avezzano as head coach, and on November 21, 2001 in the AFL expansion draft, they acquired their first player, lineman Aaron Hamilton.

And some ebook at B&N that says pretty much the exact same thing:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/are...llas-books-group/1028152184?ean=9781156045725

So...nothing as "real" as an ESPN or something that says it, so it could definitely be wrong.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Never have really been concerned about the inner workings of all this stuff, all that matters is the name that's called. To me it just creates useless second guessing about "following your own board" which is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard of. If I get bad service from a business, I couldn't care less about all of the details that went into giving it to me. All that matters is the final product, and the fact that the business has to own that. You can put together the fanciest board in the NFL, but when it's seconds to go and you're on the clock, Jerry can snatch the mic and do whatever he wants.

In other words, it's a crapshoot.