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AKATheRake;3002455 said:
Even if we wanted to pay attention we couldn't. Not many other teams have Owner/GM's. Oakland and Al Davis? Where else do we look? I certainly don't want to look too much at that crack pot.

Boy does that organization have a recipe for success.:rolleyes: Jerry seems to think that's the model for success around here. Follow the Al Davis structure.

The worst part is, nobody would want to be Al's GM but a lot of other guys would want to be Jerry's, So who's more out of touch when it comes to football reality? Al has no choice now. Jerry does and wants no part of bettering what is destroying the on field success of this organization. Jerry......
Yes, but they have GMs AND Owners.

So my question still stands. How many GMs of other teams do you pay attention to? How many owners besides Al Davis do you pay attention to?
 

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I've noticed that Bruce Ariens of the Steelers puts a lot of improvisation into the game plan for Ben Roethlisberger. Ben doesn't like to be a pure pocket passer either and their offensive game plan seems to fit him well even though they have been struggling some in the run game.

I think Tony and Ben are similar in that they seem to make the most of their skills when in the 2 minute drill where all they have to worry about is making plays. We are handcuffing Tony right now.
 

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WoodysGirl;3002472 said:
Yes, but they have GMs AND Owners.

So my question still stands. How many GMs of other teams do you pay attention to? How many owners besides Al Davis do you pay attention to?

In August 2007, Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said that he'd "never" allow someone who was involved in dogfighting to play for the Eagles.

"Never" came Thursday.

"We're very disciplined in what we stand for," Lurie told reporters just over two years ago (via MDS of FanHouse, via an e-mail from a reader reminding us of the item). "Let me give you an example -- a few years ago we had a couple players who were . . . to put this nicely, not very respectful of their dogs. . . . Well, we don't respect that. We don't do that. And they were gone from the team almost immediately if not immediately. That sets a tone, that these kinds of attitudes are unacceptable."

Lurie reportedly was referring to former Eagles players Damon Moore and Thomas Hamner, who were charged with animal cruelty in 2001.

So what has caused Lurie to change his mind, and to embrace Vick without knowing whether the can still play like he did before his 30-month absence from the game?

At this point, it's anyone's guess. But we've got a feeling that Commissioner Roger Goodell was a lot more involved in encouraging team(s) to take a chance on Vick. Thus, regardless of how this thing works out in Philly, the league office now owes Lurie and the Eagles, big time.


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WoodysGirl;3002472 said:
Yes, but they have GMs AND Owners.

So my question still stands. How many GMs of other teams do you pay attention to? How many owners besides Al Davis do you pay attention to?

The GM is a football guy, Jerry just hides behind the GM title to look like a football guy. The GM can talk all he desires and I don't see many others doing the talking other than Matt Millen in the past anyways.

I have NFL network and NFL Sunday ticket on satellite. Usually it's the HC talking. Not the owner, not the GM, heck not the assistant HC. Here it's everybody. Even Bobby Carpenter gets his piece.

Owners once in a blue moon drop a line but they aren't specifying how the team is going to approach the next game and what player needs to do what.

How bout you find me an owner doing that this week, or even last other than Jerry or Al? There's a question. I think your question is fair to ask to a certain degree as long as it pertains to the Owner/GM structure and not the Owner or GM structure.

Jerry is everything but the hot dog vendor other than playing on the field when it comes to this team. He doesn't own anything he doesn't manage? That's fine, hire a football guy, a GM and manage him as the Owner/President of the team. Let him talk about what the team needs to do on Sundays and/or the HC.

Robert Kraft and the Rooney's have the majority of the SB's starting from the new millennium. They never tell us what their teams are looking to do come game day other than compete and win. If they even do that. The 2 lamest duck coaches in this league are Cable and Phillips when it comes to running their own show from start to finish.
 

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WoodysGirl;3002472 said:
Yes, but they have GMs AND Owners.

So my question still stands. How many GMs of other teams do you pay attention to? How many owners besides Al Davis do you pay attention to?


SD's GM called his teams play soft this week.
 

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Doomsday101;3002503 said:
In August 2007, Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said that he'd "never" allow someone who was involved in dogfighting to play for the Eagles.

"Never" came Thursday.

"We're very disciplined in what we stand for," Lurie told reporters just over two years ago (via MDS of FanHouse, via an e-mail from a reader reminding us of the item). "Let me give you an example -- a few years ago we had a couple players who were . . . to put this nicely, not very respectful of their dogs. . . . Well, we don't respect that. We don't do that. And they were gone from the team almost immediately if not immediately. That sets a tone, that these kinds of attitudes are unacceptable."

Lurie reportedly was referring to former Eagles players Damon Moore and Thomas Hamner, who were charged with animal cruelty in 2001.

So what has caused Lurie to change his mind, and to embrace Vick without knowing whether the can still play like he did before his 30-month absence from the game?

At this point, it's anyone's guess. But we've got a feeling that Commissioner Roger Goodell was a lot more involved in encouraging team(s) to take a chance on Vick. Thus, regardless of how this thing works out in Philly, the league office now owes Lurie and the Eagles, big time.


:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

:laugh2: Certainly not anything particular to game day is it. All the way back in 2007 too.
 

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tunahelper;3002519 said:
SD's GM called his teams play soft this week.

He's a GM. A real personnel guy. He's not giving any of his opponents any information on the teams approach coming into Sunday though. Is he? Jerry does not know his place and needs to stop talking about this teams approach come Sunday. Let Wade talk if he has to.
 

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AKATheRake;3002410 said:
Any other owner talk about the teams strategy before a game more than Jerry Jones? Just shut it Jerry. Hell of a business man, a fool when it comes to what needs to be produced on the field.

Apparently when Romo acts like the Romo of old, nobody believes he can win. Apparently when Romo acts like the Romo of present, nobody believes he can win. Other than Romo himself and I, does anyone think Tony can win lately? Insane!


I still believe he can win. I haven't jumped off the Romo bandwagon. I personally think they have handcuffed him to some degree with how they want him to stay in the pocket and stuff.

I understand protecting the ball, and I'm all for that, but I want to see Tony being Tony.
 

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Funny how you can take any comment to mean almost anything...

For instance, in this case, when I read the comment without commetary, I thought Jerry was expressing the viewpoint of a lot of fans. I think he misses Romo doing his thing. If you want to call it "gunslinging" that's fine, but I think Jerry knows that put points on the board.

So I didn't take it as a huge criticism of Romo. I actually thought it was a vote of confidence. He just wants Romo to be Romo - not what others think he should be.
 

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tunahelper;3002438 said:
Problem is protect the ball Romo has 4 int's and a fumble lost. It appears Romo is not elite QB status, when he is trying to stand tall in the pocket every play. I believe he needs to improvise to find lanes to throw in, otherwise he struggles to deliver the ball consistently.

Everson24;3002497 said:
I've noticed that Bruce Ariens of the Steelers puts a lot of improvisation into the game plan for Ben Roethlisberger. Ben doesn't like to be a pure pocket passer either and their offensive game plan seems to fit him well even though they have been struggling some in the run game.

I think Tony and Ben are similar in that they seem to make the most of their skills when in the 2 minute drill where all they have to worry about is making plays. We are handcuffing Tony right now.

:hammer:

As for the steelers I remember watching one of their games and the announcers were talking about Ariens, he tried to change the QB in one of his last jobs and ruined the QB and that is why he lets Ben be Ben instead of forcing him to be a pocket passer ala Garrett who never calls bootlegs or rolls the pocket out.

The more I think about it I think this coaching staff is ruining Romo instead of trying to let him be him and adjusting the playbook accordingly. How often in the offseason do we hear about Romo trying to tweak him mechanics or footwork etc?
 

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AKATheRake;3002525 said:
:laugh2: Certainly not anything particular to game day is it. All the way back in 2007 too.

And he brought Vick in this year his comments were dating back where he said they would not have this type of person on the team now he does.

Woody Girl is right many GM and owners talk and not much is ever made of it.

For a while people made a big issue of Jerry being on the sidelines during game, but as of yet I can't recall one game this year he has been on the sideline.
 

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Big Dakota;3002333 said:
http://espn.go.com/dallas/columns/cowboys/blog?post=4545724&name=cowboys
Head coach Wade Phillips said this week that he doesn't believe that quarterback Tony Romo is being too cautious.

But their boss would like to see a little bit more of Romo's freelancing skills.



Owner/GM Jerry Jones got a glimpse of classic Romo on the Cowboys' final drive in Denver, when Romo scrambled on fourth-and-3 to buy time to loft a throw to Sam Hurdhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10194 that resulted in a 53-yard gain.



Wade is wrong.

Jerry is wrong for speaking.

Romo needs to go back to:

  1. running when its there
  2. roll and make plays/improv
  3. tuck/secure ball when nothing is there
then we are golden!!
 

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WoodysGirl;3002436 said:
The question I have is how many GMs/Owners of other teams do you pay attention to?

I realize you said off the top of your head, but I think many of us are so Cowboys-tunnel visioned that we don't pay that much attn to any other team outside the NFC East.
I know when people have a reputation for something it isn't always entirely accurate, but Jerry and Al Davis have the reputation for being the NFL's most meddlesome owners. That has to mean something.
 

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Big Dakota;3002333 said:
Jones wants to see some Romo of old
October 9, 2009, 11:14 AM
By: Tim MacMahon

Head coach Wade Phillips said this week that he doesn't believe that quarterback Tony Romo is being too cautious. But their boss would like to see a little bit more of Romo's freelancing skills.
Owner/GM Jerry Jones got a glimpse of classic Romo on the Cowboys' final drive in Denver, when Romo scrambled on fourth-and-3 to buy time to loft a throw to Sam Hurd that resulted in a 53-yard gain.
"I think, as much as anything, we all would like to see him maybe him when it's not a desperation juncture in the game maybe improvise more than we have," Jones said during an appearance on 105.3 The Fan. "I think that's probably what, if you look at his skills and what he can do really well, possibly a little more of that would be good.
"It's going to be a fine line between protecting the ball and having some of that [improvisation] that Romo can bring. He's still got all that you want." Romo is trying to find the fine line between making plays and placing an emphasis on protecting the ball.
"You're always going to want to utilize everything that you're capable of doing," Romo said yesterday. "You'd be selling yourself short if you didn't utilize all the tools at your disposal that you may have as an individual or a unit.
"For me, individually, it's about stay the course. Continue to get better. Don't waver off this path and jump the gun because of one game."
Jones definitely isn't jumping the gun on Romo. Jones emphasized that Romo, who he called the future of the franchise, is a quarterback capable of leading the Cowboys to the Super Bowl. A little more creativity on the field would help.

Jerry Jones is really putting more nails in Tony Romo's coffin with these comments.

As the Owner and GM, you don't get on the radio and tell everybody that you want your Quarterback to improvise more or even critique his play.

Jerry Jones needs to save these comments for those inside the organization and to Tony Romo directly.

It just one more person (and a very important person at that), that has an opinion about his play.

Bad move by Jerry Jones here.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;3002403 said:
Well then you should have kept TO for at least one more year instead of leaving your QB out to the vultures. The Romo friendly offense you created is offensive. I know you had Felix in your plans Jerry but you have dont have a legit down field threat on the team. NFC East Defensive Coordinators rejoiced when you cut TO and other teams just dont respect your team.

Cant wait to hear an opposing "player" quote and not a "fan" quote, that this team just isn't that good without him. Even my wife recognize that this offense is "lackluster" w/o a deep threat. Thats just sad.

Still saying this?
 

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I know when people have a reputation for something it isn't always entirely accurate, but Jerry and Al Davis have the reputation for being the NFL's most meddlesome owners. That has to mean something.
The difference is being able to separate when GM Jerry is speaking and Owner Jerry is speaking.

In the comments in the OP, that's GM Jerry. And in that role, yes, he should be able to discuss his expectations for the Cowboys quarterback. It's his title. Self-anointed, yes. But it his title/role and I can't get bent out of shape every time he opens his mouth. I'd think after 20 years, people would be over it by now.

When Owner Jerry is going on and on about the videoboard or some other new feature in the stadium, THAT's when I want him to be quiet.
 

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WoodysGirl;3002658 said:
The difference is being able to separate when GM Jerry is speaking and Owner Jerry is speaking.

In the comments in the OP, that's GM Jerry. And in that role, yes, he should be able to discuss his expectations for the Cowboys quarterback. It's his title. Self-anointed, yes. But it his title/role and I can't get bent out of shape every time he opens his mouth. I'd think after 20 years, people would be over it by now.

When Owner Jerry is going on and on about the videoboard or some other new feature in the stadium, THAT's when I want him to be quiet.

I think Jerry Jones the GM should not go on the radio and do this sort of thing, especially when his Quarterback is struggling.

Honestly, put yourself in Tony Romo's shoes. You are Tony Romo and in your car and you hear the owner/gm of your team saying this.

Personally, I just don't think I would like it.

If I were Tony Romo, I would be thinking to myself, you think I can just improvise like I did at the end of the Broncos game anytime I feel like it?

Jerry Jones need to step back on this one.
 

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WoodysGirl;3002658 said:
The difference is being able to separate when GM Jerry is speaking and Owner Jerry is speaking.

In the comments in the OP, that's GM Jerry. And in that role, yes, he should be able to discuss his expectations for the Cowboys quarterback. It's his title. Self-anointed, yes. But it his title/role and I can't get bent out of shape every time he opens his mouth. I'd think after 20 years, people would be over it by now.

When Owner Jerry is going on and on about the videoboard or some other new feature in the stadium, THAT's when I want him to be quiet.
That's true. Maybe it just isn't a good idea for someone to hold both roles.
 
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