ESPN Jerry Jones explains why he's not leaving

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Several fans and even media members are tired of Jerry Jones being the general manager of the Dallas Cowboys.

You can't take Jones out as owner because, let's be honest, he's one of the best in professional sports.

As a general manager he's had some issues.

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Is he? A great owner would have recognized long ago that the GM isn't worth a damn. Jerry is a great money maker/marketer, that's about it.
 

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Different day

Same players

Same arguments.

And no one knows what really was in Jimmy's contract outside of jimmy and the jonses.

To act like you know one way or the other is funny.
 

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Jerry always loses me with the "final decision" stuff. Does he think he would be the only business person on the planet letting someone else make decisions about his money? It's like he's answering a different question.

Stockbrokers and money managers do it all day long.

It's called affirmation. He has to keep telling himself that. He thinks we'll believe it.......if he believes it.

Like the 600 lb dude who only consumes 'about' 800 calories a day.
 

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I know how passionate I am about the Cowboys. I remember crying when I was a kid if they lost games. I remember my parents preventing me from watching as a kid when I was obbsessed with them to the point my grades, social involvement was suffering. I will be 43 in a couple of months. Jerry is (and has been for some time) well on his way to draining the "Cowboy love" out of me. I mean...there are times I feel absolutley nothing. I watch...because it is football. But my needle has not budged for some time. It is very sobering to realize this guy will never understand that the culture in Dallas is rotten...and he is the main reason why. It is not so much about coaches, players, talent etc....All teams have talent...all teams have good players...all teams have guys that know football. The problem in Dallas is the culture. When every team in the NFC has been to the NFC title game in the last 18 years...EXCEPT Dallas, Washington and Detroit...that points to an issue BIGGER than X and Os...talent etc. I live in DC..so I know the cutlure in Washington is rotten. And I still follow the Cowboys...and I KNOW the culture is rotten. Every time he opens his mouth...more and more bizzare stuff comes out. Which is why I know nothing has changed. I will still watch....but not with the enthusiasm I did in my youth.
Could not have said it better myself. +1000
 

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Jones said one of his biggest regrets is not winning a title with Romo but that could change in the next few years, should the Cowboys stop their regressive state.

You better hurry up Jerry. Because I don't feel confident on your qb picking skills.
 

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Jones insisted that he did not and we have yet to see the contract. At that point it comes down to 'who do you want to believe.'

I am fine with I do not know myself.

One guy won big at Oklahoma State, U of Miami, and Dallas, then realized his limits at Miami before retiring to fishing and the Fox pregame gig.

The other poked holes in the ground, bought the Cowboys, fired Landry, hired the buy above, and has wallowed in failure since, never admitting his incompetence and refusing to change.

I'm going with the first guy.
 

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same old nonsense from the egotistical snake oil salesman. "final decision maker", "unique way we are structured", "socks and jocks", "since day 1..." blah, blah, blah. "did I ever tell you about the time they cut up my credit card at Love Field?"

he's making money hand over fist so who cares that the on field product has been rotting for nearly 20 years?
 

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What's the point of that article, exactly? Not being critical, I think I'm missing the underlying reason it was written. Just to say Jerry's going to remain the GM until he dies? Because we know that. And the quotes don't really reinforce any particular theme, other than Jones taking credit for the Superbowl years' personnel moves...

Jerry does this appeasing fans in the off season for the failed season, so he probably paid the journalist to put a somewhat decent article on him
 

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Jerry does this appeasing fans in the off season for the failed season, so he probably paid the journalist to put a somewhat decent article on him

No offence intended here.

There is no appeasing in this. There's nothing new in the article.

I could give an assignment to a bunch of junior high kids. Tell them to write an essay about Jerrah and how he runs the Dallas Cowboys. In a half hour they could find some quotes, cut and paste, and produce the same thing. That article reads like a replay/rerun/ rehash of the SOS Jerrah has been spouting for years. Its like Groundhog Day.
 

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One guy won big at Oklahoma State, U of Miami, and Dallas, then realized his limits at Miami before retiring to fishing and the Fox pregame gig.

The other poked holes in the ground, bought the Cowboys, fired Landry, hired the buy above, and has wallowed in failure since, never admitting his incompetence and refusing to change.

I'm going with the first guy.

Nice story. Thanks for explaining your bias even though it lacks anything remotely definitive.
 

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Nice story. Thanks for explaining your bias even though it lacks anything remotely definitive.

The one HUGE thing that goes against Jimmy is his time with the Dolphins. Whatever the setup was in Dallas for Jimmy's 5 years it worked really well. The fact is, neither guy had the same success once they parted ways. Only a fool would give one guy all the credit.
 

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Just because he is retired from Coaching, Fishes a good deal, works on TV...does NOT mean he does not have an ego and does not want to protect his ego.

That is a silly argument to make that just because someone is not in the business anymore than it must mean he is the one telling the truth.

Again...silly argument.

I would say to Jimmy and Jerry...produce the contract that says Jimmy had control or the contract that says he did not.

Simple.

Saying one or the other is lying because one is not in the business anymore or not is silly.

That contract is almost 25 years old... Odds are it doesn't exist anymore.

One of them is lying. I don't see why it's silly to speculate on who's lying. You may disagree with the reasoning behind a particular person's speculation, but since we know someone's lying, the obvious follow to that is to try to figure out who it is.

It makes sense to me that Jimmy wouldn't really care about the back and forth over who made personnel decisions, since he doesn't have to worry about public perception of his current job... at least not enough to lie about it. And if someone comes out and tries to take credit for your work from the past, it's not unreasonable to dispute that, ego or no.
 

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What's worse is, he's proven to be the poorest manager of cap space and personnel of any GM in the league the past 17 years.

The truth is, it would kill him to see the team win with another man in the GM spot. He's going to luck into a championship, or die trying, period.

Yeah but that already happened. SBXXX.
 

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I know how passionate I am about the Cowboys. I remember crying when I was a kid if they lost games. I remember my parents preventing me from watching as a kid when I was obbsessed with them to the point my grades, social involvement was suffering. I will be 43 in a couple of months. Jerry is (and has been for some time) well on his way to draining the "Cowboy love" out of me. I mean...there are times I feel absolutley nothing. I watch...because it is football. But my needle has not budged for some time. It is very sobering to realize this guy will never understand that the culture in Dallas is rotten...and he is the main reason why. It is not so much about coaches, players, talent etc....All teams have talent...all teams have good players...all teams have guys that know football. The problem in Dallas is the culture. When every team in the NFC has been to the NFC title game in the last 18 years...EXCEPT Dallas, Washington and Detroit...that points to an issue BIGGER than X and Os...talent etc. I live in DC..so I know the cutlure in Washington is rotten. And I still follow the Cowboys...and I KNOW the culture is rotten. Every time he opens his mouth...more and more bizzare stuff comes out. Which is why I know nothing has changed. I will still watch....but not with the enthusiasm I did in my youth.

I could have written this myself...only difference is that I'm a bit older than you, although I didn't become a DC fan until 1968.
 

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Jerry does this appeasing fans in the off season for the failed season, so he probably paid the journalist to put a somewhat decent article on him

I disagree, on the principle that nobody would pay Calvin Watkins for a somewhat decent article under any circumstance.
 

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Meh, same old same old. Al Davis Jr. is a senile, infirm, clownish failure as GM at this point. Too bad he's the only one that can't see it. He'll be gone someday but the most depressing aspect is that he's trained and socialized his kid to the same narcissistic behavior. Sad.
 
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