ESPN Jerry Jones explains why he's not leaving

[Alexander]

Several thousand ??? Several million ???

I would say million by now.

If Jerry Jones had an "approval rating" like the President does, it would be in the negative numbers now.

At least in the past you would have a fairly decent sized contingent of people who were clinging to the "great owner, not so good GM, maybe Stephen will be different" mantra.

 

[Bullflop]

Just another story about Jerry trying to prove "it's really all about me." It's enough to make a tin-can-eating billy goat sick to his stomach. Never have I seen anyone quite so determined to salvage his own image. Unfortunately, it might be a bit too late for that.

 

[slomoxn]

I maintain that in the face of contradicotry evidence that I do not know. I said I could but I don't.

You can try and guess the motivations or psychology that drives either men but we both know you are just making crap up.

I said I could make up a story and not that I actually believe that. My point is that it is just as substantiated as your hogwash.

I don't know of you are standing up for Jerry or not; it appears you have taken the stance that there is no reputable evidence either way so either could be lying or telling the truth. You also say that you don't know which psychology drives either man; well I have only heard Johnson speak on this issue once or twice. It doesn't seem to be an issue to him, Jerry on the other hand has done everything but get on the PA system in the stadium and shout it out to the world that he makes all the decisions including personnel.

If I had to guess based on his insistence that he actually runs the team and the current state of the franchise from his running the team recently, id think Jimmy had a lot More to do with the 90s than Jerry did. This isn't based on the recent failures but More on the fact that since it appears Jimmy got most of the credit Jerry has done everything in his power to keep anyone from stealing his thunder after. Considering Jimmy only had mild success after his departure it would be easy to believe Jimmy maybe wasn't as good as we thought but..... He had success every where else along the way; he knew how to build a team and IMO just because he couldn't reproduce those same results in Miami doesn't take away from all his other accomplishments.

Jerry with a team with several players probably going to the HOF the best he could do was 8-8, this in my opinion is despite him, I honestly believe a real GM with this talent from a couple of years ago gets a ring. The talent is now wasted but that is also the GMs fault. People may feel there is notice talent left but that is what has driven this to 8-8 the past few years, they have just enough to be mediocre, but I believe with the right leadership this team would have been better. That is the GM, coach and so forth; this is a weak version of the Barry Switzerland led Cowboys without that much talent and no Aikman/Irvin to force them to play to their level. They play below the level of their potential due to having no structure.

 

[Corso]

One cannot say that Jerry is a terrible GM and a great owner. It is the owner who hires the GM. It is his hubris as an owner that gave him the thought that he could be the GM, so it is actually his ownership skills that are killing this team. His GM skills would not even come into question if his poor decision as an owner to keep himself as GM would not allow him to have the position in the first place.

That's a darn good point.
One many here have come to the same conclusion as you, BUT-
To the ones who say Jerry is a good owner- refer to this post.
Wait- Not this post, but the one I'm referring to.
Sometimes you have to spell things out to people...

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I would say million by now.

If Jerry Jones had an "approval rating" like the President does, it would be in the negative numbers now.

At least in the past you would have a fairly decent sized contingent of people who were clinging to the "great owner, not so good GM, maybe Stephen will be different" mantra.

I dont know about that. We've got a prez thats a dismal failure and still has the blinded faithful who still approve giving him some positive numbers. The question is, are there any Cowboy fans that get a chill up the leg over Jerry?

 

[Alexander]

I dont know about that. We've got a prez thats a dismal failure and still has the blinded faithful who still approve giving him some positive numbers. The question is, are there any Cowboy fans that get a chill up the leg over Jerry?

I can think of a few.

 

[Cowboyz88]

Just another story about Jerry trying to prove "it's really all about me." It's enough to make a tin-can-eating billy goat sick to his stomach. Never have I seen anyone quite so determined to salvage his own image. Unfortunately, it might be a bit too late for that.

Yup, the man is truly 100% committed to do it HIS way, and his way only.

I think this proves, for the millionth time, that he is not an owner who "will do whatever it takes to win," and it makes me nauseous when fans say that he is.

 

[Alexander]

Yup, the man is truly 100% committed to do it HIS way, and his way only.

I think this proves, for the millionth time, that he is not an owner who "will do whatever it takes to win," and it makes me nauseous when fans say that he is.

Even if he really and honestly wanted to win nearly as much as people say he does, it still does not matter.

His special kind of organizational structure will never work, no matter how badly he wants it to.

No accountability and constant excuse-making even when you have brief moments of reflective introspection is not the real deal.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

I can think of a few.

You mean, guys like Risen?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Several fans and even media members are tired of Jerry Jones being the general manager of the Dallas Cowboys.

You can't take Jones out as owner because, let's be honest, he's one of the best in professional sports.

As a general manager he's had some issues.

Read the rest here

As long as he keeps a failure as the GM, then he is not the best in sports.

Does he make a lot of money, which is usually the criteria for succfess?

Yep.

Does that mean he is the best?

What is the record of his GM?

Nuff said.

 

[Dodger12]

Al Davis Jr. is a senile, infirm, clownish failure as GM at this point. Too bad he's the only one that can't see it.

You obviously are new here and don't lurk much. There are people in this very thread that believe he went from drilling for oil one year to building an NFL dynasty within 4 years of buying the team. Unfortunately, Jerry's run into a 20 year streak of bad luck.

 

[TwoDeep3]

From the article:

"This isn’t uncommon in the NFL to realize the individual that ultimately makes the decision in acquiring players, not one day, not a single hour since I've owned the Cowboys have I not made the final decision on any player," Jones said.

Just a couple of days ago an article talked about the bringing in of Walsh and how they ended up shipping him out when Jimmy got a deal for him that brought in people like Darren Woodson.

Jerry may have been in the room, but I do not believe a word he says about the Jimmy era and Jerry making the final decision.

Let me be clear. I am saying Jerry is out right lying here.

 

[Risen Star]

As long as he keeps a failure as the GM, then he is not the best in sports.

Does he make a lot of money, which is usually the criteria for succfess?

Yep.

Does that mean he is the best?

What is the record of his GM?

Nuff said.

A great owner doesn't prevent his team from winning.

 

[jobberone]

One cannot say that Jerry is a terrible GM and a great owner. It is the owner who hires the GM. It is his hubris as an owner that gave him the thought that he could be the GM, so it is actually his ownership skills that are killing this team. His GM skills would not even come into question if his poor decision as an owner to keep himself as GM would not allow him to have the position in the first place.

Now this is how you argue that position.

 

[Risen Star]

From the article:

"This isn’t uncommon in the NFL to realize the individual that ultimately makes the decision in acquiring players, not one day, not a single hour since I've owned the Cowboys have I not made the final decision on any player," Jones said.

Just a couple of days ago an article talked about the bringing in of Walsh and how they ended up shipping him out when Jimmy got a deal for him that brought in people like Darren Woodson.

Jerry may have been in the room, but I do not believe a word he says about the Jimmy era and Jerry making the final decision.

Let me be clear. I am saying Jerry is out right lying here.

He's just being technical. He was the owner and GM. So technically, nothing happened without his approval.

If you have enough sense to dress yourself in the morning, you know Jimmy Johnson was the brains behind the operation. You knew it then. You certainly know it now after witnessing Jerry without Jimmy.

 

[Alexander]

He's just being technical. He was the owner and GM. So technically, nothing happened without his approval.

If you have enough sense to dress yourself in the morning, you know Jimmy Johnson was the brains behind the operation. You knew it then. You certainly know it now after witnessing Jerry without Jimmy.

You can't prove that. We need to see the contract to know for sure if it was for real.

Until then, it is like a myth. Or something.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He's just being technical. He was the owner and GM. So technically, nothing happened without his approval.

If you have enough sense to dress yourself in the morning, you know Jimmy Johnson was the brains behind the operation. You knew it then. You certainly know it now after witnessing Jerry without Jimmy.

The only proof that you have is posturing.

If you have enough sense to dress yourself in the morning, you know Jerry Jones was the brains behind the operation. You knew it then. You certainly know it now after witnessing Jimmy without Jerry.

Yay! I can play story time too!

 

[silver]

Jerry wouldn't know Josh Thomas from Clarence Thomas. He may have final say, but that doesn't necessarily mean he knows what he's doing.

 

[manster4ever]

same old nonsense from the egotistical snake oil salesman. "final decision maker", "unique way we are structured", "socks and jocks", "since day 1..." blah, blah, blah. "did I ever tell you about the time they cut up my credit card at Love Field?"

he's making money hand over fist so who cares that the on field product has been rotting for nearly 20 years?

solid post....all true. It's hard not to be disgusted by this clown show right now. Pathetic.

BTW: I know that Garrett infuriates alot of you, and I'm not here to defend him by any means. BUT, who else is JJ going to get to 'coach' where he can be the master puppeteer? Can't blame Red for gobbbling up 3mil+ per year. He's cemented the future of his kids and grandkids by doing so. It all starts and ends at the top with Al Davis Jr.

 

[Nova]

Jerry wouldn't know Josh Thomas from Clarence Thomas. He may have final say, but that doesn't necessarily mean he knows what he's doing.

Right? Shouting "I'm stubborn" from the mountain tops for all the world to hear doesn't make you a good GM.

Hilarious how he tries to justify his tenure at that position.