ESPN MacMahon: Phillips: Romo needs to trust Williams

Bleu Star;3044652 said:
It's really simple.. at least to me.. Romo is releasing the ball often times just as Austin comes out of his break. The timing is there because Miles runs crisp routes and is where he needs to be when he needs to be there. Romo is releasing the ball a second or two after Roy comes out of his break because he doesn't trust that Roy will be where he's supposed to be at the prescribed time. That extra time holding the ball can easily result in:

  • Sacks
  • INTs
  • Balls batted out of Romo's hand

Roy has a lot of work to do if he is ever going to earn Romo's trust.

This.
 
Eskimo;3044624 said:
He just doesn't have the raw natural skills to do it and he doesn't have the passion and determination to work on his game. He was only in it for the money and fame.
Post his practice schedule during his career for us since you obviously have that at your disposal.
 
Don Corleone;3044518 said:
Roy needs to focus and catch the passes that are hitting him in the hands. He has dropped some easy ones as of late, some of which have hit him in the hands while in stride.

The problem isn't Romo...the problem is Williams.

I dont think there's as big a "problem" as many continue to insist, but it isnt just on RW either. There's been times Williams was open and the ball thrown to him was poor, such as the 2nd slant pass where RW was wide open and Romo threw it into the ground at his feet vs Atlanta the other day. The Denver game comes to mind too. There's also been plays where he was open, but the ball didnt come his way.

He does need to catch the ball when its in his hands though.
 
Roy just isn't that good. It's not about "making a connection" or "getting comfortable." It's about being a good WR. He's ok, but not great. Those great hands people were talking about a few weeks ago aren't present. He doesn't run routes well, isn't overly fast, doesn't get enough seperation.
 
jimmy40;3044813 said:
Post his practice schedule during his career for us since you obviously have that at your disposal.

He self-admitted that he is not a gym rat, and had the lazy moniker at Detroit, but I agree, it's hard to get a true read on his practice dedication and he seemed to work hard with Romo in the off season. Why is Wade even making this statement? Is it for Roy or Jerry?
 
Wonderboyromo;3044834 said:
Roy just isn't that good. It's not about "making a connection" or "getting comfortable." It's about being a good WR. He's ok, but not great. Those great hands people were talking about a few weeks ago aren't present. He doesn't run routes well, isn't overly fast, doesn't get enough seperation.

It would be interesting to see how many times he was thrown to in his single 1000 yard season, he seems so slow and wooden, it's hard to imagine him putting up those numbers now.
 
Eskimo;3044531 said:
BP used to say the same thing all the time about throwing the ball of Keyshawn. However, one thing I remember is that while Key won most of the battles, a fair number of those passes ended up being intercepted.


Exactly why you don't give up 3 draft picks and a ton of cash to a guy that forces your QB to make tough throws. I'd rather have 35 yeAr old Keyshawn than 27 year old Roy, at least key was productive.
 
Doomsay;3044843 said:
He self-admitted that he is not a gym rat, and had the lazy moniker at Detroit, but I agree, it's hard to get a true read on his practice dedication and he seemed to work hard with Romo in the off season. Why is Wade even making this statement? Is it for Roy or Jerry?

I think it has more to do with the media asking question about RW. I also think in ways it is for Roy as well to publicly let him know that the team is behind him.
 
Oh brother. To me, Roy has been playing well below his capability. In the meantime, it's been shown that Miles can be a great receiver, and people are complaining? Granted, due to my assumption is that Roy's play will improve to what he's shown in the past, I can only see upside in this. Perhaps this potential is what Romo was referring to when he said this offense could be "special". How many teams can say they have two potential #1 receivers?
 
dbair1967;3044816 said:
I dont think there's as big a "problem" as many continue to insist, but it isnt just on RW either. There's been times Williams was open and the ball thrown to him was poor, such as the 2nd slant pass where RW was wide open and Romo threw it into the ground at his feet vs Atlanta the other day. The Denver game comes to mind too. There's also been plays where he was open, but the ball didnt come his way.

He does need to catch the ball when its in his hands though.

:hammer:
 
dbair1967;3044816 said:
I dont think there's as big a "problem" as many continue to insist, but it isnt just on RW either. There's been times Williams was open and the ball thrown to him was poor, such as the 2nd slant pass where RW was wide open and Romo threw it into the ground at his feet vs Atlanta the other day. The Denver game comes to mind too. There's also been plays where he was open, but the ball didnt come his way.

He does need to catch the ball when its in his hands though.

Everyone keeps on bringing up that slant in Atlanta as suggesting there is a problem with Romo getting the ball to Roy. I think that was just a bad pass - so bad that I think the ball may have slipped out of his hand. That one was obviously on Romo and I don't buy that Roy didn't run his route correctly there.

In the Denver game, Romo was just off - several bad throws to many different receivers in that game.

I do think Roy will probably improve his play given his past performance levels. I do think he needs to be working overtime with the WR coach on his footwork.
 
Eskimo;3044624 said:
No one respects his speed anymore.

He doesn't sell his routes.

The footwork on his routes is atrocious.

He is as slow as molasses with his cuts.

RW11 is done as a #1 WR in the league. He just doesn't have the raw natural skills to do it and he doesn't have the passion and determination to work on his game. He was only in it for the money and fame. He has plenty of fame in Texas and now that he got his $20M guaranteed, he has got his money, too.

Amen to THIS. It was ALL about the benjamins to this pretender.

Zero skills + zero passion + "you owes me" attitude = typical Jerruh Jones FA signing. We all have seen perfectly thrown passes bounce off his skillet claws. RW is good for at least two drops each game. WHY SHOULD ROMO TRUST THIS GUY??

RW came from Detroit which is a joke of a professional football team. He still has the Detroit 'tude of laziness and half *** effort. You can take a man out of Detroit but you can't take the Detroit out of the man.

Tolerate RW this season, then find another WR with desire to complement Austin and Crayton. I'd love to find a clone of Wes Walker for this team.
 
Only thing you can trust a bum to do is pee in his pants.

I really hope RW turns it around, I just don't think he will.
 
The way I see it, Tony is in a catch 22. On one hand he is being asked to trust RW to make the play while being covered and on the other hand he is being told he needs to cut down on the turn overs which usually comes from throwing into coverage. I suspect a lack of trust from Romo causes him to choose the more conservative throw in that situation. JMO.
 
Doomsday101;3044856 said:
I also think in ways it is for Roy as well to publicly let him know that the team is behind him.

I don't know of too many coaches that would go out of their way to do that for an under performing top paid veteran receiver. Perhaps for a young rookie QB, but not an experienced break the bank to get em receiver, pathetic.
 
Doomsay;3044887 said:
I don't know of too many coaches that would go out of their way to do that for an under performing top paid veteran receiver. Perhaps for a young rookie QB, but not an experienced break the bank to get em receiver, pathetic.

Given the heat RW is facing I have no problem with Wade or anyone on this team showing RW they have his back. I continue to hear that he is working hard and I'm one who believes that hard work will pay off in the end. Until then if those around RW feel the need to beat off the wolves then great it beats the hell out of being thrown under a bus.
 
Eskimo;3044630 said:
Romo and Austin are the future of this franchise. The sooner we can get rid of Roy's malcontent behind, the better. I don't think his ego can take playing second fiddle to a UDFA from New Jersey. I do like the complimentary abilities of a trio of Austin, Ogletree and Crayton. It'd be nice to get Ogletree in there in some game situations to get him ready for next year so he can contend for the #2 WR position with Crayton.

I just hope Roy goes quietly and doesn't try to divide the lockerroom like TO did.

Its time to just leave Crayton as the slot guy.

He is a solid #2 but he is a much bigger threat for us in the slot and lined up closer to Tony.

If Ogletree plays than line him up out wide.

I wonder if Ogletree is going to play this week?
 
Bleu Star;3044652 said:
It's really simple.. at least to me.. Romo is releasing the ball often times just as Austin comes out of his break. The timing is there because Miles runs crisp routes and is where he needs to be when he needs to be there. Romo is releasing the ball a second or two after Roy comes out of his break because he doesn't trust that Roy will be where he's supposed to be at the prescribed time. That extra time holding the ball can easily result in:

  • Sacks
  • INTs
  • Balls batted out of Romo's hand

Roy has a lot of work to do if he is ever going to earn Romo's trust.
Best post of the thread IMO.
 
All bellyaching aside, forgetting Williams simply is not an option.

The team needs for Williams to be an active part of the offense. Everyone who is on the field needs to contribute.

During the days of Owens, there were times when the team got too focused on him, and didn't spread the ball around enough. The last thing this team needs is to repeat that mistake by focusing too much on Austin.

Williams, Romo, Garrett have to insure, at a minimum, that if/when teams go to sleep on Williams, he's going to hurt them badly.
 
ZeroClub;3044922 said:
All bellyaching aside, forgetting Williams simply is not an option.

The team needs for Williams to be an active part of the offense. Everyone who is on the field needs to contribute.

During the days of Owens, there were times when the team got too focused on him, and didn't spread the ball around enough. The last thing this team needs is to repeat that mistake by focusing too much on Austin.

Williams, Romo, Garrett have to insure, at a minimum, that if/when teams go to sleep on Williams, he's going to hurt them badly.

I agree. It is critical that RW and Romo get this worked out. We do not want a situation where we are not getting the ball out to others. Roy needs to make the plays when they come his way. RW has made no excuses for this play and it is up to him to get things going.
 

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