ESPN Mosley Blog: Jerry Jones fired the wrong Jones

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Jerry Jones fired the wrong Jones
January 8, 2009 10:43 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

I've known Cowboys owner Jerry Jones for eight years now, so it seemed a bit out of character for him to send Adam "Pacman" Jones packing Wednesday afternoon. He'd treated the troubled player like a son over the past eight months, and it kept him from noticing that Pacman wasn't really accomplishing much on the field. The dangerous return man that we'd heard rumors about never materialized and it was one of his silly penalties that helped lead to the debacle in Philly.

Now we know that it took an ESPN "Outside the Lines" report, which will air Sunday, to finally force the owner's hand. The report will detail allegations stemming from a July 2007 shooting incident. It's too bad it had to come to this. From the start, Pacman was never worth all the fuss. His on-field talent wasn't enough to overcome his prolific off-field behavior.


Randy Galloway, Fort Worth Star-Telegram columnist and my daily radio partner on 103.3 ESPN, summed it up pretty well Thursday:
"Still being a tool for the fool, Jerry has no gripe coming, since he's the same guy who ordered Pacman to be reinstated to the roster in December after he had already flunked the first probationary period after a fight with his bodyguard at a Dallas hotel. Six weeks of league suspension, and despite ample knowledge that Pacman had been mocking both him and commissioner Roger Goodell with his off-the-field visitation of banned establishments, and Jerry still allowed the guy to return.​

"The original acquisition of Pacman was questionable (do note I agreed with it in print at the time), but there was no reason to bring him back in December, other than the Cowboys have an owner who won't admit a blunder and a head coach who is silly putty in that owner's hands."​
So, who's next? Tank Johnson will most likely leave in free agency. I don't see Jones releasing Terrell Owens -- unless John Barr has something else up his sleeve. I'm anxious to hear what you guys think.


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The blog post headline doesn't really match with the blog post.
 

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WoodysGirl;2562303 said:
Jerry Jones fired the wrong Jones
January 8, 2009 10:43 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Matt Mosley

I've known Cowboys owner Jerry Jones for eight years now, so it seemed a bit out of character for him to send Adam "Pacman" Jones packing Wednesday afternoon. He'd treated the troubled player like a son over the past eight months, and it kept him from noticing that Pacman wasn't really accomplishing much on the field. The dangerous return man that we'd heard rumors about never materialized and it was one of his silly penalties that helped lead to the debacle in Philly.


Stupid quote. It was already a big debacle before this happened. He was frustrated, i wouldve done the same thing. At least he cared.
 

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Jerry can't win. He is criticized for cutting Pacman now. He would have been criticized if he did not cut him.
 

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Regarding Jerry acquiring Pacman let me just say this. No guts, no glory.

I didn't want Pacman here, and I am thrilled he is gone, but I understand what they tried to do and I can't fault it.

It was low risk given the trade parameter built in to give a pick back.

If it had paid off because he really did get it the pay off could have been huge. This guy was a top 10 pick that we were getting for a small price.

Jerry rolled the dice. I have no issue with that. Pacman came up craps. That's because he didn't see the light. Don't know how he could miss it, it was coming through the hole in the roof every day.
 

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Hostile;2562347 said:
Regarding Jerry acquiring Pacman let me just say this. No guts, no glory.

I didn't want Pacman here, and I am thrilled he is gone, but I understand what they tried to do and I can't fault it.

It was low risk given the trade parameter built in to give a pick back.

If it had paid off because he really did get it the pay off could have been huge. This guy was a top 10 pick that we were getting for a small price.

Jerry rolled the dice. I have no issue with that. Pacman came up craps. That's because he didn't see the light. Don't know how he could miss it, it was coming through the hole in the roof every day.

Perfectly said!

:bow:

Swing and a miss.

Move on.
 

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Hostile;2562347 said:
Regarding Jerry acquiring Pacman let me just say this. No guts, no glory.

I didn't want Pacman here, and I am thrilled he is gone, but I understand what they tried to do and I can't fault it.

It was low risk given the trade parameter built in to give a pick back.

If it had paid off because he really did get it the pay off could have been huge. This guy was a top 10 pick that we were getting for a small price.

Jerry rolled the dice. I have no issue with that. Pacman came up craps. That's because he didn't see the light. Don't know how he could miss it, it was coming through the hole in the roof every day.

Well said!!!
 

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joseephuss;2562334 said:
Jerry can't win. He is criticized for cutting Pacman now. He would have been criticized if he did not cut him.

He shouldn't have signed him in the first place, or at the very least not reinstated him December.
 

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Bach;2562370 said:
He shouldn't have signed him in the first place, or at the very least not reinstated him December.

In this case, I'd rather give him credit for making the best move at this point rather than go the 'should've' route regarding the past which nobody can do anything about.
 

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Hostile;2562347 said:
Regarding Jerry acquiring Pacman let me just say this. No guts, no glory.

I didn't want Pacman here, and I am thrilled he is gone, but I understand what they tried to do and I can't fault it.

It was low risk given the trade parameter built in to give a pick back.

If it had paid off because he really did get it the pay off could have been huge. This guy was a top 10 pick that we were getting for a small price.

Jerry rolled the dice. I have no issue with that. Pacman came up craps. That's because he didn't see the light. Don't know how he could miss it, it was coming through the hole in the roof every day.

Also, Jerry didn't solely count on Pacman to be the final answer at cornerback. He hedged his bet by drafting two cornerbacks, one in the first round.

I did not want Pacman in Dallas, either. If it was going to be done then Jerry did it the best possible way.
 

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Hostile;2562347 said:
Regarding Jerry acquiring Pacman let me just say this. No guts, no glory.

Jerry rolled the dice. I have no issue with that. Pacman came up craps. That's because he didn't see the light. Don't know how he could miss it, it was coming through the hole in the roof every day.

Oh and his dice rolling really pays off too. 13 years and counting, but hey, look at Jerry he's rolling the dice.

If he could make solid decisions instead of always looking to get something for virtually nothing we'd be much better off.
 

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joseephuss;2562382 said:
Also, Jerry didn't solely count on Pacman to be the final answer at cornerback. He hedged his bet by drafting two cornerbacks, one in the first round.

I did not want Pacman in Dallas, either. If it was going to be done then Jerry did it the best possible way.
Very valid point. By waiving him now we aren't even short handed, though I wouldn't mind another late round CB like Scandrick.
 

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Bach;2562384 said:
Oh and his dice rolling really pays off too. 13 years and counting, but hey, look at Jerry he's rolling the dice.

If he could make solid decisions instead of always looking to get something for virtually nothing we'd be much better off.

Scandrick was a solid decision. Felix Jones was a solid decision. Tashard Choice was a solid decision. Even Jenkins was a solid decision. I would agree with you if all of those draft choices were Jerry trying to get something for nothing, but those are solid picks.

And this past draft is much better than past drafts where Jerry did forego solid decisions for trying to get something for nothing like in 2002 when he drafted Antonio Bryant and Derek Ross.

Jerry has improved. In the past he would have spent more guaranteed money on Pacman and not drafted a corner in case the deal did not work out.
 

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joseephuss;2562334 said:
Jerry can't win. He is criticized for cutting Pacman now. He would have been criticized if he did not cut him.

Have you ever wondered why Jerry Jones is in so many "no-win" scenarios?

Because he puts himself in them.
 

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Alexander;2562396 said:
Have you ever wondered why Jerry Jones is in so many "no-win" scenarios?

Because he puts himself in them.

No, I have never wondered about it because I agree he puts himself in those situations. I just think it is a weak article/blog post. He made a good decision now by cutting Pacman. It is called moving forward, but this blog post can't seem to do that.
 

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joseephuss;2562406 said:
No, I have never wondered about it because I agree he puts himself in those situations. I just think it is a weak article/blog post. He made a good decision now by cutting Pacman. It is called moving forward, but this blog post can't seem to do that.

It's not even a good decision however. Its not smart, its not change, its not making a statement, it just is something that either he had to do now or he would have to do later. It just IS.

The no win scenario was created because he took him back and pushed him back onto the team. The damage had already been done.
 

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stasheroo;2562379 said:
In this case, I'd rather give him credit for making the best move at this point rather than go the 'should've' route regarding the past which nobody can do anything about.

There's been more out about PacMan and Jerry did the inevitable.
 

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Alexander;2562411 said:
It's not even a good decision however. Its not smart, its not change, its not making a statement, it just is something that either he had to do now or he would have to do later. It just IS.

The no win scenario was created because he took him back and pushed him back onto the team. The damage had already been done.

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

Exactly!!!

The "decision" was made for him. If the Outside the Lines wasn't airing he'd still be on the team.

The only real "decision" in this whole scenario was Jerry's decision that he had to have Pac. The rest is just fallout.
 
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