ESPN Mosley Blog: Several 'Boys players missing OTA sessions

[Future]

not a big deal.its one ota.maybe Garrett didnt need them there.who knows?y assume the worst.

"The one good thing about being a pessimist is that you are either constantly being proven right or being pleasently surprised.":laugh2:

thats why

 

[zeromaster]

Guess we need a scorecard. We can place fictitious bets on the top three, and maybe points ratings on whether it's an OTA, minicamp, or training camp day.

How about:

• OTA day: 1 point
• minicamp: 3 points
• training camp: 5 points

Injuries only count .5 points. Place yer bets, ladies and germs; place yer bets!

Now how to get accuracy on who's missing and how much...

 

[bigE79]

I guess it's a matter of wondering how much/little they actually know about the playbook. They got rave reviews in the minicamp. So I don't know that that's an issue. Garrett's been with the team since Jan/Feb correct? They've had six months to digest that thing.

As for Julius... I understanding him being ghost from the ranch prior to the draft. Trade rumors were abundant. He prolly didn't feel all that welcome. When reading this blog entry vs the DMN's version, it says he's missed at least one whereas DMN says they've missed several.

Honestly, I look at this as a big tattle-tale and folks ready to pounce on Wade.

AT LEAST SOMEONE IS TALKING SENSE...THANK YOU WG

 

[Doomsday101]

Some will say it is no big deal well this team has not won a playoff games in years, right now it is a big deal in my opinion. New coaches and new terminology and a new start for some of these players. I do expect players to be there be it voluntary or mandatory until they can show themselves as a legit contender right now we are not.

 

[redskins1]

Where are all the Commanders fans? I thought they'd be all over this, seeing as how we criticised them for not having Portis, Springs, et al in their camps....

oh no...trouble in paradise!!!

 

[bbgun]

Some will say it is no big deal well this team has not won a playoff games in years, right now it is a big deal in my opinion. New coaches and new terminology and a new start for some of these players. I do expect players to be there be it voluntary or mandatory until they can show themselves as a legit contender right now we are not.

Good point. It's amazing how the usual suspects and "useful idiots" go into spin and shill mode the second a discouraging word is directed Dallas' way--no matter how legitimate, fair-minded, or deserving the critique. The endless caveats and double standards are transparently pathetic. Portis, Burress and Shockey get hammered but our guys get a pass. Nice.

"But ... but ... it's different with our guys! They had legitimate excuses!"

The hell they did. Spare me the absurd premise that these guys are a well-oiled machine who have nothing to learn.

 

[Doomsday101]

Good point. It's amazing how the usual suspects and "useful idiots" go into spin and shill mode the second a discouraging word is directed Dallas' way--no matter how legitimate, fair-minded, or deserving the critique. The endless caveats and double standards are transparently pathetic. Portis, Burress and Shockey get hammered but our guys get a pass. Nice.

"But ... but ... it's different with our guys! They had legitimate excuses!"

The hell they did. Spare me the absurd premise that these guys are a well-oiled machine who have nothing to learn.

No kidding some people can only deal with homer news any negative story and the same bunch starts talking about well it is no big deal. Damn these guys have 1 job that is the Pro Football for the Dallas Cowboys and they are paid damn good for it so yes I think they need to get their butts in this camps regardless of voluntary or not. The coaches would not be holding these if they did not think it was needed, they are not just wasting time or bored there is a reason why they want these guys in. I do understand situations where players have something they need to take care of and get the ok from the team but by and large they need to be there.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

T.O. and Terry G. taking the week off

May 31, 2007 12:36 PM


Since I completely left you guys hanging yesterday on my "Cowboys breaking news" tease, here it is:

According to eyewitness accounts, the Cowboys' starting wide receivers, Terrell Owens and Terry Glenn, have not attended any of the club's Organized Training Activities sessions this week. But before we dispatch our satellite truck armada to Valley Ranch, let me also say that safety Roy Williams, linebacker DeMarcus Ware, running back Julius Jones and nose tackle Jason Ferguson were also among a group of players who missed at least one of the voluntary sessions.

With that qualifier out of the way, I think offensive coordinator Jason Garrett has to be somewhat disappointed that he's trying to implement a new passing scheme while quarterback Tony Romo is throwing to Patrick Crayton and Sammy Hurd. And by the way, I'm still trying to confirm whether Romo made it back from his Miss Universe duties in time for Tuesday's session.

Do any of you guys care about players not showing up for voluntary workouts?

All this reminds me of something former Cowboys linebacker Darren Hambrick once said when asked why he wasn't attending "voluntary" workouts.

"What do voluntary mean?" asked Hambrick.

It's the same question I'm asking myself this morning.

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Still May (for a day), not too worried. We talking about practice man, practice.

BTW, stop teasing me WG, your breaking my heart.

LOL

 

[WoodysGirl]

Still May (for a day), not too worried. We talking about practice man, practice.

BTW, stop teasing me WG, your breaking my heart.

LOL

There's a minicamp next week, I believe. All the 'boys news you can handle.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

There's a minicamp next week, I believe. All the 'boys news you can handle.

Yeah been waiting on it, now I can start posting again, lol.

 

[flashback]

There's no way to construe this as good news. The worst part is, these are team leaders who are missing time, which can't be good. Ware, Williams, Furguson, Owens, Glenn, Jones, those are some of our best players right there. It can't be good for chemistry.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

not the end of the world, but disappointing

 

[SultanOfSix]

Big whoop. I've never complained about other teams' players missing OTAs. Why would I care about my own teams' players missing them, since

1) We have no idea why they missed them. All we have is Mosley's ESPNized angle where missing an OTA session somehow comes off as something bad.
2) OTA stands for "Organized Training Activity", if I'm not mistaken. To me, that doesn't seem to involve any coaching whatsoever.
3) Did players miss BP's OTAs? And if they didn't, that didn't seem to help our record any. If they did, well...why is it somenegative angle here? Because WP is deemed as a "player's coach", whereas BP is deemed as a "disciplinarian"?

Who gives a crap.

 

[Alexander]

OTA stands for "Organized Training Activity", if I'm not mistaken. To me, that doesn't seem to involve any coaching whatsoever.

"Coaching" and "training" are nothing alike.

 

[SultanOfSix]

"Coaching" and "training" are nothing alike.

I don't mean to be rude, but anyone who is looking to understand as opposed to looking for something to criticize would know there is a difference between coaching the playbook, and physically training players, where the latter encompasses strength and endurance conditioning.

I'm fine with Ware, Williams, Ferguson, Owens, Glenn, and Jones (all 4+ year veterans) missing an OTA or two.

 

[big dog cowboy]

From Mick's Mail over in the daily zone.........

Robin Dutta, Stirling, N.J.: Word is that both Terry Glenn and T.O. are missing OTA's. Yes, these are voluntary. Yes, Jason Garrett is installing a new offense. So, do they have an excuse, and how important is it for these guys to miss "voluntary" workouts?

Mickey: Well, if you look around the league, this seems to be a systematic problem. Almost every team has difficulty getting all the veterans participating in the OTA's, so this is not a Cowboys thing or a Glenn-Owens deal. Would you like all the guys here for every one of them? You bet, especially with a new offense being put in and a different style of defense. But in the immortal words of Darren Hambrick, "What do voluntary mean?" If these workouts were vital, then the owners would petition the league and the NFLPA to make these workouts mandatory. Sure, it's pointed out when Owens misses them, or even Glenn, but I can tell you there were far more veterans missing the OTA we got to watch last week than you'd believe. Plus, compared to last year when the Cowboys only had a week's worth of workouts, this year they are having three week's worth. So I'd say, let's not get our panties in a wad over this.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Well, I was mistaken about what OTAs do entail, but here is an article referencing why Mosley's article is a "who gives a crap".

http://www.fantasyfootballstarters.com/viewTopic.jsp?topicId=1849

 

[Chocolate Lab]

These aren't like organized lifting or running sessions. These are basically practices where the coach is putting in schemes.

It may not be the end of the world, because Parcells only had one week of these. So guys could miss some days and still get in more than they did last year. But when you're learning a new system, it's just stupid not to be there if you want to excel.

 

[2233boys]

From Mick's Mail over in the daily zone.........

Robin Dutta, Stirling, N.J.: Word is that both Terry Glenn and T.O. are missing OTA's. Yes, these are voluntary. Yes, Jason Garrett is installing a new offense. So, do they have an excuse, and how important is it for these guys to miss "voluntary" workouts?

Mickey: Well, if you look around the league, this seems to be a systematic problem. Almost every team has difficulty getting all the veterans participating in the OTA's, so this is not a Cowboys thing or a Glenn-Owens deal. Would you like all the guys here for every one of them? You bet, especially with a new offense being put in and a different style of defense. But in the immortal words of Darren Hambrick, "What do voluntary mean?" If these workouts were vital, then the owners would petition the league and the NFLPA to make these workouts mandatory. Sure, it's pointed out when Owens misses them, or even Glenn, but I can tell you there were far more veterans missing the OTA we got to watch last week than you'd believe. Plus, compared to last year when the Cowboys only had a week's worth of workouts, this year they are having three week's worth. So I'd say, let's not get our panties in a wad over this.

Mickey is a douchebag...

 

[Alexander]

I don't mean to be rude, but anyone who is looking to understand as opposed to looking for something to criticize would know there is a difference between coaching the playbook, and physically training players, where the latter encompasses strength and endurance conditioning.

I'm fine with Ware, Williams, Ferguson, Owens, Glenn, and Jones (all 4+ year veterans) missing an OTA or two.

There's nothing to criticize.

Coaching and training are pretty much analogous.

There is plenty that can be taught and coached in sessions like this. If nothing else, getting more and more familiar with your new coaches.

This is not the end of the world. Skipping this will not set anyone back. Participating will not create any more wear and tear to manifest itself late in the season.

It is just a missed opportunity to improve.