ESPN Mosley: On the Clock: Dallas Cowboys

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CATCH17;2737295 said:
We're going to trade up at some point.

We're not drafting 11 players. No way no how.


I really like Robiskie. I don't know about his character but he seems like a tough guy who can attack the ball and has the ability to make plays downfield as well.

I saw only a few plays by Robiskie. He doesn't seem to gain much separation from the defender. He'll probably be a good possession guy. I am not sure he's what we need.

Again, I stress team SPEED.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2737259 said:
please trade up to take Nicks or Robiskie

Nicks is the only player I'd trade up for. If we get him, I'd move to Dallas.
 

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marchetta;2737312 said:
Nicks is the only player I'd trade up for. If we get him, I'd move to Dallas.

We'd have to go above 35 at least. Word is the Rams would take him there.
 

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btcutter;2737290 said:
If we trade up we better be getting someone like Percy Harvin. What I heard is that he has incredible "suddeness" and speed. That's what we need to team up with RW and F Jones. He will improve our overall OFFENSIVE SPEED and create explosive plays.


The problem with that idea is that like a week, or so, ago Hos posted something on the forums about the players that Dallas had taken off their draft boards, for one reason or another, and Harvin was one of them. Apparently he failed a drug test at the combine and Dallas immediately removed him from their board.
 

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Ceasaleo88;2737286 said:
I wouldn't trade up more than a couple of spots maybe in the mid 40's, but I'm starting to like the idea of getting Robiskie more and more.

He doesn't have the blazing speed, but it's enough to get deep, and speed is something u can work on. U can shave a couple of tenths off your 40, just by getting in a NFL workout program, IMO. Robiskie has nice hands, and catches with his hands which is key. He runs great routes. Is good after the catch, and I believe he was a punt returner.

I really think that with a year or two, he'll be a #1 WR. He just has all the little things down and that's always the hardest thing for a WR to get.

Maybe Robiskie's 40 time is not blazing, but how fast does he play with pads on? Who has seen him play enough to coment on this?

Michael Irvin didn't run fast either like other WRs, but masn was he fast on that foeld! So if Robiskie is there when we draft and he has the game speed a receiver needs then I would defenitiely take him.
 

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I realise we need more of a speedier guy but im not willing to draft a worse player just because he is faster.

If Robiskie is a playmaker than let him come make plays for us.
 

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OMG! If I hear "scouts" say that we will take Williams Moore or Patrick Chung at 51 I'm going to throw up. I'd rather have a firesale with that pick.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2737463 said:
OMG! If I hear "scouts" say that we will take Williams Moore or Patrick Chung at 51 I'm going to throw up. I'd rather have a firesale with that pick.

Come on Slate, you can't be that disappointed with Chung.
 

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Move up and grab Nicks. God helps those whom help themselves. IMO sitting still is the thing we shouldn't do with that pick. We need more than anything to hit on this pick, so let's find a player we really want and go for it.

If the choice has to be safety, then the same thing there, just find the one we want and go for it.
 

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Woods;2737485 said:
Come on Slate, you can't be that disappointed with Chung.

Not with the first pick. I could MAYYYBEEE warm up to him in the 3rd but that's the earliest. I'd rather trade that 51 and move up or down than just settle with him.
 

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My best guess is that Dallas moves up. Jerry wanted to last year, and I just can't imagein him sitting still for 50 picks.

However, I would be fine with staying put. I think someone is going to fall to #51, and I wouldn't press too hard to go get someone who isn't noticeably better than the guy you're getting at 51.

But, it's always possible that Dallas sees a drop-off point where we don't. They may love the top 40 guys in this draft and not like any other value until around 70. So I try not to get too worked up one way or another.
 

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I know that Gosselin has a an ear with the NFL scouts and he likes Chung, so is it possible that we draft Robiskie and then trade back up for Chung?.
 

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AmishCowboy;2737595 said:
I know that Gosselin has a an ear with the NFL scouts and he likes Chung, so is it possible that we draft Robiskie and then trade back up for Chung?.

for whom though?
 

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AmishCowboy;2737595 said:
I know that Gosselin has a an ear with the NFL scouts and he likes Chung, so is it possible that we draft Robiskie and then trade back up for Chung?.

I don't think we'd have the ammo to do that unless we used a bunch of picks or unless we package a player or use next year's picks - assuming that Chung is a 2nd rounder as well, of course.
 

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btcutter;2737290 said:
If we trade up we better be getting someone like Percy Harvin. What I heard is that he has incredible "suddeness" and speed. That's what we need to team up with RW and F Jones. He will improve our overall OFFENSIVE SPEED and create explosive plays.

Cowboys | Harvin taken off draft board
Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:18:52 -0700

Matt Mosley, of ESPN.com, reports the Dallas Cowboys have taken University of Florida WR Percy Harvin off their draft board because of character concerns, according to a source.
 

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ddh33;2737578 said:
My best guess is that Dallas moves up. Jerry wanted to last year, and I just can't imagein him sitting still for 50 picks.
Jerry Jones is a force of nature during the draft.

I'm surprised and happy Jerry finally has people around him who will stand up for their own beliefs and not automatically agree with his every whim.

Jerry will always want to trade up when he sees talent sliding towards him.

Will enough of his cronies agree this time around?
 

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What are those guys at ESPN smoking (Scouts INC)?

Mike Jenkins...

Orlando Scandrick....

Alan Ball...

I think Anthony Henry is covered, but let's draft another CB in round 2. Better yet, let's draft one in round 3, just in case.

Absurd.

Someone tell those bozos that the Cowboys ranked number 5 against the pass last year, and they should be woried about Keith Brooking or Bobby Carpenter getting roasted in coverage, not the CBs.
 

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And this rookie phenom is going to run faster than anyone on the team, get more separation, run better routes, and have Romo's confidence faster than he can fly downfield??

Austin is fast. RW is fast. Neither is that quick esp RW.

So if you're talking about someone with the quicks fast or not then ok. Even then don't expect a lot right off the bat. Name that player.

They like Robiskie.
 

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I think Robiskie is going to be drafted before 51, and I wouldn't trade up for him. He's going to have to get stronger. While he has good straight-line speed, his quickness is in question. Will he have the quickness to separate from NFL CBs in tight coverage? I think he will be over drafted.

I've read some scouts' quotes that ask this question and talk about his lack of quickness.

In my very strong opinion, the Cowboys should try to select Juaqin Iglesisas in round 3. His short area quickness is lethal over the middle. He's tough and possesses some of the best hands and route running ability in the draft. He can produce immediately out of the slot.

Robiskie isn't going to even get on the field, imo.

I agree with Mosely on WR in round 3. That's probably Iglesisas.
 

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41gy#;2737678 said:
I think Robiskie is going to be drafted before 51, and I wouldn't trade up for him. He's going to have to get stronger. While he has good straight-line speed, his quickness is in question. Will he have the quickness to separate from NFL CBs in tight coverage? I think he will be over drafted.

I've read some scouts' quotes that ask this question and talk about his lack of quickness.

In my very strong opinion, the Cowboys should try to select Juaqin Iglesisas in round 3. His short area quickness is lethal over the middle. He's tough and possesses some of the best hands and route running ability in the draft. He can produce immediately out of the slot.

Robiskie isn't going to even get on the field, imo.

I agree with Mosely on WR in round 3. That's probably Iglesisas.

Some think Robiskie gets his separation with precise routes. He is not a great talent athletically. He works and knows the game. I'm not in love with him either and believe we need a player with the quicks, too.
 
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