ESPN Reporting $70 Million for Hall

[Woods]

I wonder how much the Raiders have left under the cap? They have been spending like crazy.

They may WANT to trade out of their 4th pick. Not to mention, I think they only have 1 pick left in Rounds 1-3 (4th overall).

 

[Woods]

I'm now really starting to think that JJ may try to engineer a trade with Al Davis come April.

 

[ajk23az]

good gawd. hall aint worth that. either was clements tho for the 9ers.

 

[StylisticS]

SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!

and the market just got more rediculous for having to pay the truly talented.

You think maybe this is a reason why some of the owners want to do away with the Salary Cap. Or does this have nothing to do with that?

 

[zrinkill]

10 million a year ...... for a 24 year old pro bowl corner.

How much per year would be a good deal?

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I am just about with you on letting Newman walk if the money is going to be like this. Hopefully he'll be more accomodating.

2 corners in the first is looking better and better. This will be Newman last big payday and lets face it he is a much better corner than Hall or Clements.

 

[zrinkill]

What if it was set up like 13 million signing bonus

Year 1 - 5mil
Year 2 - 6mil
Year 3 - 6mil
Year 4 - 7mil
Year 5 - 12mil (voidable)
Year 6 - 12mil (voidable)
Year 7 - 15mil (voidable)

Would that be ok? Remember there is no telling what the cap will be in 7 years.

 

[CowboyWay]

A few thoughts..........

1. Imagine what Deion would be worth today.

2. All the more reason to take corners early in the draft. And more than 1.

3. See you later TNew. No way a 31 year old corner should be paid that next year.

 

[This is Our Year]

20 Mill guaranteed, which what Samuel got as well.

 

[iceberg]

You think maybe this is a reason why some of the owners want to do away with the Salary Cap. Or does this have nothing to do with that?

cap or not it doesn't matter. tier 2 players are being paid tier 1 money simply because they were the best turd in the toilet bowl vs. just another turd.

 

[TheCount]

I still think he's a young talented corner. The kid's just 24 years old, and there are ways to structure a contract that make things more reasonable.

 

[Teague31]

insane. is there any way they can still afford the #4 pick or is Jerry getting ready to trade up?

 

[STAR GAZER]

Never wanted him. As a matter of fact, the only FA's I've been interested in this offseason have been Haynesworth, and a pair of wideouts from your neck of the woods.

CB money in FA is too much, and the talent at CB in this year's draft looks more than adequate. Newman's negotiations should be rather interesting when they heat up.

The only positions I'm comfortable throwing big money at in FA is WR and OL.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[skinsscalper]

You think maybe this is a reason why some of the owners want to do away with the Salary Cap. Or does this have nothing to do with that?

cap or not it doesn't matter. tier 2 players are being paid tier 1 money simply because they were the best turd in the toilet bowl vs. just another turd.

Actually, yes, I DO think this has a little to do with why the owners want to do away with the current CBA (which in effect eliminates the salary cap). The ONLY thing that all owners seem to be in agreement with is that the players are getting way to big of the slice or NFL revenue pie.

One thing to keep in mind is that it's very few teams going ape**** with these high dollar deals (mainly the Raiduhs). I don't think it will be long before teams just start to look at the big picture and say "You know what? A CB just isn't worth that kind of money." It's all cyclical. Remember the days when the RBs were making boatloads of money and LTs were getting squat? Or MLBs signing huge deals and CBs were JAGS? What's eventually going to happen is that these guys (especially older ones *Tnew*) are going to price themselves right out of the market (especially if the owners agree to cut into the players' portion of revenue sharing). I'll guarantee you there are 31 owners out there right now ready to cut Al Davis' balls off. The guy is throwing mad money around to a bunch of has-beens, never beens, and hope you'll be's like there's no tomorrow. I'm not so sure that Davis is actually "setting the market" for the NFL. I also think you'll see teams like San Fran and Philly with a bit of buyers remorse once they realize that their teams have REAL holes and one player (who MIGHT have the opportunity to impact the game maybe 6-7 times a game) who is eating up 10 million in cap space on a 53 man roster.

The way that the NFL is set up for offensive success is even more reason not to blow your wad on one of these guys. The rules have shackled a lot of these athletes on the defensive side of the ball to the point that even the best in the world can/will cost you a game because the rule book is stacked against them. Hell, if that's the way they want it, I'd invest in offensive supremacy and see who can keep up. But 10 Million a year on a guy that MIGHT break on a ball 2-3 times a game? No thanks. As a matter of fact let's line up TO, Moss, and Roy Williams up on one side of the ball and Clements, Samuel, and Hall on the other side of the ball and see which group of players more closely resemble 30 million dollars of worth. The CB #s have gotten ridiculously dumb and it won't stop until the owners start collectively saying "You're just not worth it."

Edit to add: I'm about as flip floppy as I can be on this subject because I would love to find a way to keep Newman, I just don't think that a CB justifies that kind of money. My heart says "Pay Newman and replace Henry cheaper". My head says "A CB just isn't worth the dough". Ugh, I feel like a hooker at a family values meeting.

 

[Hostile]

Catfish avoided the hook and Grandpa Al swallowed it whole.

 

[DallasEast]

70 mil? That's the most expensive toast I've ever seen...

Truer words have never been spoken...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Davis must be hearing the death rattle up close and very personal. He clearly is not living for tomorrow.

 

[slick325]

Good for him. Get your money young man. If the market bears it then why not sign on the dotted line.

 

[FCBarca]

Just insane...What is going on over there in Oakland??

 

[Vertigo_17]

wow...

this is unreal money for an above average (not great) player.