News: ESPN: Source: Browns QB Watson suspended 6 games

[Reid1boys]

Different rules for owners and players? Go figure.

Except that the CBA apparently specifically states that Owners are to be held to a HIGHER standard.

 

[Brax]

Pay attention... im gonna get deep here. If you read any cstate criminal code on sexual assault, the state legislature will actually define the type of behavior they are criminalizing. So SEXUAL ASSAULT will be defined by the state. The NFL had no such definition prior to Watson doing what he did. So at the hearing, the league defined what they felt that term to mean. The judge accepted their definition saying it is their league, they can define what sexual assault is.

She specifically states using the LEAGUES definition of sexual assault, Watson did in fact do said beh

and expecting the NFL to be some moral compass says a whole lot about the people that expect it to be so IMO. This is why I have never once wavered in my opinion that if a player is not in jail, Im ok with them playing in the NFL.

If a player is free to work at McDonalds then they are free to start at RB on Sunday if they are good enough.

Snarky, you have no problem with scum working for you that’s fine, pay attention here it may be too deep for your you, most people don’t.

 

[DFWJC]

The Browns could be tough later in the year and they have a comically easy first 4 weeks of their schedule.
With a good overall roster and a manageable backup in Jacoby Brisset at QB, they may win some of those too.

After week 4 though, the schedule gets real.
8-9, no playoffs, is my wild guess

 

[Reid1boys]

Snarky, you have no problem with scum working for you that’s fine, pay attention here it may be too deep for your you, most people don’t.

95% of football fans have no problem with it either, they just wont admit it. if a 25 year old Tom Brady did the exact same thing Watson did and he was traded here next year... nobody would be protesting Brady as he was raising Lombardis/

And what you call snarky, I call paying attention to the facts.

 

[tyke1doe]

so you think the NFL and their players invented abuse of woman? My earliest childhood memory I have is my dad beating the hell out of my mom with a belt. Sexual abuse of woman is as old as mankind. This is a societal problem, I am not sure why people expect the NFL to be the entity to deal with it. Society as a whole is responsible for dealing with the problem.

Isn't the NFL a part of society?
To whom much is given, much is expected.

 

[kskboys]

Except that the CBA apparently specifically states that Owners are to be held to a HIGHER standard.

If only they had the money to..........never mind.

 

[kskboys]

The Browns could be tough later in the year and they have a comically easy first 4 weeks of their schedule.
With a good overall roster and a manageable backup in Jacoby Brisset at QB, they may win some of those too.

After week 4 though, the schedule gets real.
8-9, no playoffs, is my wild guess

12-5.

 

[kskboys]

Snarky, you have no problem with scum working for you that’s fine, pay attention here it may be too deep for your you, most people don’t.

All employers have scum working for them. Nature of the game.

 

[Brax]

im gonna go deep here......... so, here is what the judge actually was saying. In criminal code, criminal behavior is defined. So if I am going to say you were guilty of sexual assault, that term would have been defined in the criminal code. The NFL had no such definition in the CBA. They had many behaviors that they said you could be punished for, yet those behaviors were not defined. She was politely slapping them. During the arbitration hearing the NFL THEN defined those behaviors and applied them to Watson. In a criminal case, this would have NEVER been allowed. The judge allowed it, conceding that this is a business and the NFL owns the business and they can define the behaviors they want punished.

So, she admits that she is using the NFL's definition of said words. There is absolutely a distinction..... just one that would be missed by 95% of the people in here that didnt read the ruling at all or didnt read it closely.

Those were her words, you can jailhouse lawyer all you want and if you think doing what he did to 24 women who filed complaints and him paying them to go away is ok that’s on you and hopefully Goodell appeals this and Watson is out a year and can’t come back untit he gets help for his problems. You do know it’s not ok to force oneself on a women, but then again.

 

[phildadon86]

uhmm.... you might be missing the fact I liked your post and was agreeing with you. My post was in regards to those in here that use their own facts vs the actual facts. you know, those "Alternative facts," we learned about.

I did miss that. My apologies. Still recovering from the long weekend.

 

[kskboys]

A freak? He is a typical 25 year old man who has been priveleged when it comes to women his entire life. He is 1 of millions of men that do crap like this every day.

For the life of me, how do people not know/remember how inappropriate young men are on a daily/minutely basis.

 

[Brax]

95% of football fans have no problem with it either, they just wont admit it. if a 25 year old Tom Brady did the exact same thing Watson did and he was traded here next year... nobody would be protesting Brady as he was raising Lombardis/

And what you call snarky, I call paying attention to the facts.

As you see them, where did you get your JD from?

 

[kskboys]

Those were her words, you can jailhouse lawyer all you want and if you think doing what he did to 24 women who filed complaints and him paying them to go away is ok that’s on you and hopefully Goodell appeals this and Watson is out a year and can’t come back untit he gets help for his problems. You do know it’s not ok to force oneself on a women, but then again.

I have not seen one single poster say that what he did is OK. Where do you get that from?

 

[kskboys]

And grand juries fail to send criminals to trial so saying 2 failed to bring charges does hold water like you stated. The fact that he shows no remorse or failed to apologize says volumes, just pay them to go away. Sad way to look at it.

He just apologized. So, it's OK now?

 

[kskboys]

As you see them, where did you get your JD from?

Jack Daniels?

 

[Brax]

I have not seen one single poster say that what he did is OK. Where do you get that from?

If someone says the punishment is ok or no criminal charges then no punishment should be given that’s the same as it’s ok imho.

 

[Reid1boys]

As you see them, where did you get your JD from?

I did not complete Law School, but I did attend McGeorge School of Law. Being married, living a 2hour drive from school and having 2 young children at that time made me change course. So you will have to excuse my attention to detail when it comes to these things. Details matter.

 

[Brax]

Jack Daniels?

No Juris Doctor.

 

[Reid1boys]

If someone says the punishment is ok or no criminal charges then no punishment should be given that’s the same as it’s ok imho.

no, it means that I can accept what the actual CRMINAL JUSTICE system says vs a bunch of emotional people that bring their own views and experiences into things.

 

[Brax]

I did not complete Law School, but I did attend McGeorge School of Law. Being married, living a 2hour drive from school and having 2 young children at that time made me change course. So you will have to excuse my attention to detail when it comes to these things. Details matter.

I have no problem with your view but mine is different than yours and maybe it isn’t to deep for most of us.