News: ESPN: Source: Browns QB Watson suspended 6 games

[kskboys]

Michael Vick was suspended indefinitely for what he did but it turned out to be only 4 games for which he was eligible. Most of his suspension took place while he was in prison.

Vick should've gotten a lifetime ban. What he did was monumentally worse, torturing and killing.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Tom Brady was suspended only 2 less games for maybe knowing that a football was not fully inflated.

If this suspension does not get extended that means the NFL will accept that there's only a 2 game difference between 20+ assault allegations and and an deflated football allegation.

Here is my problem with this and it's really a simple question.......how many of these lawsuits would be filed against you or me?





noun: allegations

1. a claim or assertion that someone has done something illegal or wrong, typically one made without proof.

 

[CowboyRoy]

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...ase-reportedly-recommended-no-suspension/amp/

According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, NFL lead investigator Kia Roberts testified this week that she recommended that Elliott not be suspended for his alleged domestic violence incidence.

"Not only did Roberts play a key role in the Elliott case, but she was the only NFL employee who spoke to Elliott's accuser, Tiffany Thompson, during the 13-month investigation.
However, Roberts, who was the only person to speak with Thompson, pointed out during her testimony during the appeal this week that she was never consulted about Elliott's suspension or even asked to make a recommendation, which would have been zero games" this looks to me like the investigator didn't agree with suspending Zeke. She was the only one who met with the accuser from the league office. If what you're saying is true, then why didn't more people meet with the accuser? What was the point of sending her to meet with the accuser if they were just going to suspend Zeke anyway?

Interesting. I had never heard that up until now. So yah, from that standpoint it makes less sense. But lets remember two things.............Zeke had already been in trouble a few times recently before this for stupid things. I think it was pulling a girls top down at a St Patricks event that got caught on video, and I think maybe it was speeding over 100 miles an hour and getting ticketed. Not sure on that one. So this was now the 3rd incident during a time when the NFL needed to make up for the Ray Rice debacle. So maybe he got screwed and maybe he had built up something and deserved it.

I have no doubt that some of it was the league needing to clear their image.

 

[kskboys]

90% of all men. Why only under 25?

Arbitrary age. Guys generally grow up between 22 and 35, at which time they realize those type of actions are inappropriate.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Look like the league got sloppy and/or lazy with its investigation

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Interesting. I had never heard that up until now. So yah, from that standpoint it makes less sense. But lets remember two things.............Zeke had already been in trouble a few times recently before this for stupid things. I think it was pulling a girls top down at a St Patricks event that got caught on video, and I think maybe it was speeding over 100 miles an hour and getting ticketed. Not sure on that one. So this was now the 3rd incident during a time when the NFL needed to make up for the Ray Rice debacle. So maybe he got screwed and maybe he had built up something and deserved it.

I have no doubt that some of it was the league needing to clear their image.

If the league wanted to suspend him for those instances, then fine, but that's not what they were investigating. Furthermore, that likely would've resulted in a 2 game suspension instead of a 6. That makes a big difference in how that season goes. The Eagles still might've had an empty trophy case for one thing.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Arbitrary age. Guys generally grow up between 22 and 35, at which time they realize those type of actions are inappropriate.

What type of actions?

 

[G2]

If that's true, then 90% of men under the age of 25 are sociopaths.

No, that makes no sense.

 

[Rayman70]

if this was a Dallas player it would be an indefinite ban. Zeke was suspended longer I think for FAR FAR FAR LESS. This should have been a 10 game suspension at best. This is a ****** farce!

 

[Rayman70]

this is an outrage!!

 

[Adreme]

first off, not 24... but 5. Secondly, because you dont pay attention nor have you read the personal conduct policy, there is a very specific reason the words NON VIOLENT were used. In legal issues (make no mistake this was a legal issue.... the personal conduct code is the NFL's equivalent to the criminal code) actual terminology that is spelled out in the CBA matters... thus why NON VIOLENT matters.

Nope 24 is the correct number. The fact that he settled most of them makes the allegations neither true nor false but certainly does not change the fact that said allegations exist and as such there have been 24 cases of sexual assault filed against him with 24 people filing a lawsuit claiming such actions. So 24 is a number that is not in dispute (assuming that no more file but that number cannot go down).

Meanwhile they are not a criminal court. They are not the equivalent of a criminal court. They are the equivalent of HR determining your punishment for violating company policy so when your arbitrator is trying to justify to the public the ruling made the wording very much so matters and that wording was terrible.

 

[kskboys]

Look like the league got sloppy and/or lazy with its investigation

What a ridiculous assertion. The NFL makes all its decisions based on public perception, derdeedee.

This is an entertainment business, of course they do. When did people get so dumb?

 

[Rayman70]

What a ridiculous assertion. The NFL makes all its decisions based on public perception, derdeedee.

This is an entertainment business, of course they do. When did people get so dumb?

in 2020 Nuff said

 

[CowboyRoy]

If the league wanted to suspend him for those instances, then fine, but that's not what they were investigating. Furthermore, that likely would've resulted in a 2 game suspension instead of a 6. That makes a big difference in how that season goes. The Eagles still might've had an empty trophy case for one thing.

Who knows. I dont remember the Cowboys team being that good that year. Wasnt that the year the Oline injuries starting popping up? Frederick?

 

[kskboys]

What type of actions?

Inappropriate flirting. Unwanted flirting.

 

[J12B]

I guess the #Metoo movement is officially over.

 

[JoeKing]

Wow, he got the Zeke treatment. Watson got off easy, IMO.

 

[kskboys]

No, that makes no sense.

Teenagers are guilty of inappropriate flirting en masse. It makes a ton of sense.

Diagnosing Peepeeslap as a sociopath strictly from these actions is what makes no sense. Maybe he is, but this action is not indicative of a sociopath. We have no idea if Watson has a complete lack of empathy and conscience.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Who knows. I dont remember the Cowboys team being that good that year. Wasnt that the year the Oline injuries starting popping up? Frederick?

Yes, that was the year that, for example, T Smith was out and we found out that Chaz Green was a dish rag with scrambled egg for brains at blocking. However, if Zeke plays for an extra 4 games, I think that'd make a big difference. We finished 9-7 that season, mind you. So, if Zeke plays for 4 extra games, that means we likely win the division as we had a better record with him playing than not playing. If that result holds, perhaps we finish 11-5 instead of 9-7, assuming we split those games. Who knows what happens next?

 

[Reid1boys]

Other than Zeke shouldn't have been suspended as there were significant questions of credibility against the accuser in that case. I'm aware Goodell didn't make this decision. However, my objection is that the suspension for Zeke stood despite the only person from the league office, according to https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/www.cb...ase-reportedly-recommended-no-suspension/amp/, to meet with the accuser recommending no suspension for Zeke.

well if you were aware that an Arbitrator decided this, why are you trying to compare the two cases to show one was not fair?

I agree that Zeke shouldnt have been suspended, but tat is irrelevant to Watson's case.