FEATURED ESPN: Tempers flare as Eagles defend tush push in heated debate (Jerry comments)

[StarLord]

Unfortunately most rules benefit the offense at the expense of the defense.

If they are going to allow offensive players to assist players forward, the defenders should be allowed to hold the player up while others push the pile 10 yards backwards. But that doesn’t happen because of forward progress.

I don’t want player assists either direction. And I’m tired of seeing the league neutering the defense to benefit the offense.

Yeah th QB sneak element of it is fine, and their success rate, but I want the pushing and lifting of ball carriers to be banned by the offense.

 

[nobody]

Nobody is stopping other teams from trying to develop monster O-lines and implementing this play as well. Personally, I think it's dangerous to put your QB in this position because of the possibility of injury, but since the assisting the runner rule was axed, it's legal. This does appear to be targeted.

Do I want it to be legal? Not really. Not unless the defense gets some kind of ability to push back runners a bit too. But since it's legal, anyone is free to build a big O-line and implement it.

 

[Chasing6]

It's football and it's a personal vendetta against one team. Good luck with the wording on trying to end the play.. might as well get rid of combo blocks too. Not astetically pleasing to the eye, lack of injury data, please...They tabled it and it still failed. Teams are jealous and will look for anything though...Eagles will run it now to spite teams cause they can't stop a perfectly designed football play with the perfect personnel. Now that's "end of discussion."

If Dallas invented and perfected it, we all know it would have been banned.

 

[BigCowboysHomer]

The defense is allowed to push their own players on regular plays, just not special teams field goal and extra point attempts.

At the league meeting in March, multiple head coaches said the tush push shouldn't be allowed because pushing defensive linemen isn't allowed on field goal block attempts. What many of those coaches didn't mention is that pushing defensive players on a regular offensive down is legal and a strategy they could have employed.

"The defense can push as well," ex-Eagles OC Moore said in March. "As it's written right now, it's not like the defense can't push as well."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...elphia-eagles-buffalo-bills-green-bay-packers

 

[KingCorcoran]

The defense is allowed to push their own players on regular plays, just not special teams field goal and extra point attempts.

The ball carrier knows where he plans to go. That’s an advantage. Once one defensive player is pushing another that’s two defensive players who no longer can change direction. A 4th and one at your own 45 could quickly turn into a 55 yard touchdown play.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

If Dallas was doing this it would be banned.

Yep. Something something playetlybsafety, something something

 

[Beaker42]

There should be NO ASSISTING THE BALL CARRIER.

 

[quickccc]

Jerry flip flopping..and admittedly dunno what to say on tush push vote subject...?

(sigh) ...Then stay mum for a change, jerry..and let your secretary write up a speech on paper instead...

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Irvins push off, Barbers stiff arm to the helmet, Roy Williams horse collar etc.

Yeah there are quite a few rules that came about with our players being the supposed catalyst.

There are more, Witten running without his helmet. Emmitt taking his helmet off to celebrate a TD.

I'm sure if it was us, it would've been outlawed which is disgusting.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So...you can "launch" players as long as their feet MOSTLY stays on the ground.

 

[MD2020]

The ball carrier knows where he plans to go. That’s an advantage. Once one defensive player is pushing another that’s two defensive players who no longer can change direction. A 4th and one at your own 45 could quickly turn into a 55 yard touchdown play.

So the offense has a particular plan of attack in this scenario that the defense doesn't know and has to react to?

My God, what if this spread to other offensive plays?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So the offense has a particular plan of attack in this scenario that the defense doesn't know and has to react to?

My God, what if this spread to other offensive plays?

Then those should be illegal too

 

[CWR]

There are more, Witten running without his helmet. Emmitt taking his helmet off to celebrate a TD.

I'm sure if it was us, it would've been outlawed which is disgusting.

Yeah I knew i was leaving a handful of them out, just couldn't remember which. I think theres still more.

 

[McCarthyMustGo]

My guess is he believes the Cowboys are building a solid offensive line so he wants the Cowboys to be able to use that play as well.

Cowboys would get stuffed on that play. 4th and short hasn't been kind over the years.

 

[DogFace]

The defense is allowed to push their own players on regular plays, just not special teams field goal and extra point attempts.

That doesn’t make them equal . The offense has the ball as the target to push.

Pushing a D player doesn’t have the same impact because it’s hard to aim that pushed player to the ball. Much easier to push the ball past the first down/goalline.

 

[DZSierra]

It's not football and shouldn't be an option. End of discussion.

That's complete BS.

You want to end the discussion of the tush push, you make helping the ball carriers forward progress illegal like it used to be. End of discussion. Personally, I would love to see the NFL enforce that old rule again, but no one complains about it (have you?).

Can anyone remember when one NFL team ran a play that was made legal (since 2005) so well that the league wanted to try and ban it? Football is a violent sport, you can be injured on ANY kind of play, but the reality is from what I've seen, not one player has been injured due to the play, so drop the charade of "player safety". Because I don't think players should be allowed to help any teammates forward progress during a play, love the fact that the birds are pretty much giving the NFL the middle finger for a play that it seems no one can stop.

Was surprised that the Bills owner was against it. I could be wrong, but prior to the playoffs, they were actually more successful running the play than the birds. Didn't realize that they were 0-4 against the chiefs running the play in the playoffs. Guessing that's why the Bills owner voted against it LOL