Even in 3rd to 4th round, why receiver?

[brymatt94]

I understand there's some value at wide receiver in the later rounds but I just don't see the need. Yes Miles Austin can be fragile, but I think guys like Harris and Beasley showed enough to earn that trust needed to come in and produce. I also believe Coale can develop into a nice player. So in my opinion I don't see the need in drafting a receiver until about the 6th round. Basing it entirely on need, the cowboys should get a player other than a receiver in the mid rounds. So I ask, why should we consider this position in the aforementioned mid rounds?

 

[DFWJC]

Most around here realize how glaring other needs are vs WR...and that taking one in the first three rounds would not be preferred.
But if the value is overwhelming and no decent trade can be made, Dallas will take BPA.
That includes WR

Fwiw, generally if the value is really overwhelming, the a trade CAN be made. So the point would be moot

 

[Nation]

The economies of the new salary cap are showing that you can never have enough good & cheap players, regardless of what position they play.

 

[Idgit]

Most around here realize how glaring other needs are vs WR...and that taking one in the first three rounds would not be preferred.
But if the value is overwhelming and no decent trade can be made, Dallas will take BPA.
That includes WR

Fwiw, generally if the value is really overwhelming, the a trade CAN be made. So the point would be moot

I actually think WR is a position of relative need. But then, I don't see a ton of other areas that I do consider needs. We want an OL, a S, a RB and a DL someplace in the draft and/or college FA.

I'd have WR right behind all of those in terms of need, but I'd put it above RB and a one-technique DT and right even with S in terms of where I'd select it. (OL or a three-technique DT or one of the top 3-4 DTs I'd take before a WR.)

We've really only got two or three guys who can consistently play outside. Harris can do it, but I'd hate to see him in that position for an extended period of time while we trot out another slot WR if Miles or Dez goes down at some point. If we can find a speed player with some size to blow the top off the defense, It opens up so much for us underneath with Miles, the two TE sets, or with the slot WRs we've already got. And it gives us insurance going into next season if Miles hammies give him more troubles and we decide to part ways.

That, and there's tremendous depth at the position after the first round this year. I'm happy with a WR pretty much anywhere after the first (and I'd be ok with Tavon in the first, too), as long as it's a player the team thinks highly of.

(I should note, I think we'll sign an OL and a player or two--probably DT--from the Bears FAs after the draft to fill out the roster so we're not plugging holes with draft picks).

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

We can't draft on need. Give me the best player on the board, if it is a WR then so be it. We have nothing but short guys below Dez&Miles on the depth chart, so if we find a guy in the 3rd-4th that can play on the outside & is the best player available, then you take him. The Cowboys may be monitoring Laurent Robinson's condition, so that is something people should think about in the future. There are games where Miles really shines in the slot & it sometimes hurts not having another threat on the outside to make the safety defend the outside instead of playing the middle of the field.

 

[fffiasco]

Because Austin is a free agent after next season and I doubt they resign him. That leaves Harris as your #2 receiver which i dont think they are comfortable with. WR will be a selection in the top 4 rounds.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

Because Austin is a free agent after next season and I doubt they resign him.

Austin is signed through 2016-17, so I am not sure where you got that from. I doubt he lasts that long, but I still believe in the guy & think he can be very good this next season.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

We can't draft on need. Give me the best player on the board, if it is a WR then so be it. We have nothing but short guys below Dez&Miles on the depth chart, so if we find a guy in the 3rd-4th that can play on the outside & is the best player available, then you take him. The Cowboys may be monitoring Laurent Robinson's condition, so that is something people should think about in the future. There are games where Miles really shines in the slot & it sometimes hurts not having another threat on the outside to make the safety defend the outside instead of playing the middle of the field.

The best players on the board when we are picking 1st 2 rounds, I"m guessing will be OL and DL, before wr.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

The economies of the new salary cap are showing that you can never have enough good & cheap players, regardless of what position they play.

This...

 

[9darter]

Some people like to draft a developmental QB every now and then. I prefer drafting WRs. It's never a question if you need one or not. It's an expensive position and the NFL is a passing league.

Get one this year, let Austin walk next year.

 

[RSM94]

Don't think the Boys need to draft a receiver at all....maybe in the 6th round but not my first choice. OL, DT, RB, FS, Blocking TE are all positions of greater need. Boys have nice depth at WR right now.....

 

[Manster54]

Tory Smith was drafted in the second round by the ravens. I would take someone similar in a ny minute.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

People seem to only see the needs of today, not the needs of tomorrow. Behind Austin, we have absolutely no receiver depth, and it would be great to have the flexibility to cut Austin's contract for cap purposes. That's how good teams operate.

For instance, in 2011, despite having great WR depth, the Packers still drafted Randall Cobb in the second. And because they did so, they did not have to overpay to keep Jennings.

Bad teams reach to fill the needs of today, whereas good teams draft the best player available, because the depth of the today will likely be a need of tomorrow.

 

[fishspill]

I have been a big Harris fan from the start (mystified by his cutting early) and Beasley has look good, but neither I see as guys that can play outside very effectively. Coale is a near-complete unknown for us in terms of what he can do right now. That being said, the late-2nd through 4th rounds appears to be where a lot of WR value can be had. We won't know until the draft happens of course.

It's a passing league and depth at pass catcher is important. We could go FA if needed but this crop in the draft looks talented and cheap for a few years.

 

[burmafrd]

on one hand people are bleating to give our young WRs a chance

on the other people are bleating to draft one or more.

Make up your minds people.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

on one hand people are bleating to give our young WRs a chance

on the other people are bleating to draft one or more.

Make up your minds people.

You do realize both can be achieved without hurting the other?

You can give Dwayne more of a chance...as a slot WR.

You can give a draft pick a chance out an outside WR.

Or you can give a young guy a chance out an outside WR and a draft pick at a slot position.

Just because you draft someone does not mean other young guys on the roster won't get a chance. The better the competition the better the players perform to win jobs.

Another to consider is...maybe we just get a better player. I know for sure you are not too happy with all the young guys on the online and would love to draft some better guys just as much as I would.

 

[physeter]

People seem to only see the needs of today, not the needs of tomorrow. Behind Austin, we have absolutely no receiver depth, and it would be great to have the flexibility to cut Austin's contract for cap purposes. That's how good teams operate.

For instance, in 2011, despite having great WR depth, the Packers still drafted Randall Cobb in the second. And because they did so, they did not have to overpay to keep Jennings.

Bad teams reach to fill the needs of today, whereas good teams draft the best player available, because the depth of the today will likely be a need of tomorrow.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This.

Excellent point.

 

[RS12]

I understand there's some value at wide receiver in the later rounds but I just don't see the need. Yes Miles Austin can be fragile, but I think guys like Harris and Beasley showed enough to earn that trust needed to come in and produce. I also believe Coale can develop into a nice player. So in my opinion I don't see the need in drafting a receiver until about the 6th round. Basing it entirely on need, the cowboys should get a player other than a receiver in the mid rounds. So I ask, why should we consider this position in the aforementioned mid rounds?

I disagree with just about everything you said. If Dez or Miles goes down (likely) you will see just how thin they are at receiver. Same if Witten goes down at TE.

 

[Future]

You do realize both can be achieved without hurting the other?

You can give Dwayne more of a chance...as a slot WR.

You can give a draft pick a chance out an outside WR.

Or you can give a young guy a chance out an outside WR and a draft pick at a slot position.

Just because you draft someone does not mean other young guys on the roster won't get a chance. The better the competition the better the players perform to win jobs.

Another to consider is...maybe we just get a better player. I know for sure you are not too happy with all the young guys on the online and would love to draft some better guys just as much as I would.

I'm not opposed to drafting a WR, but doing so means giving up on a WR that is currently on the roster.

You would have Dez, Miles, Harris, Rookie, Beasley, Coale, Armstrong, and whoever else. I understand Armstrong is a vet, but WR is largely a numbers game. You can't give 6 WRs playing time.

 

[DFWJC]

Most importantly, draft good players.
Assumed needs can change in the blink of an eye.

If a team really wants to fit needs with value, then most likely it will require a few trades to get a match.

I think, for the most part, Dallas is focused on having an "honest draft"--which means BPA on Dallas' (not anyone else's) specific draft board.

That board will have it's own set of biases.

For example, my guess is that Dallas does not have a QB rated in it's top 20, and may not even have a WR (but easily could). But they most certainly have a WR in their top 40, so if the very top player on the board when they are picking at 47 is a WR, they just might take him.
That would be especially true if that player had clear separation (diff tier) than the next player on their board.
So it really could happen. I kind of doubt it will, but it's not out of the question.

Bottom line, as a fan we should want then to take that player if they are clearly better than what is left on their board.