Even in 3rd to 4th round, why receiver?

[Crown Royal]

Other than Dez, I don't feel like we have a great outside presence who can work the sideline. Austin is capable but most dangerous with his athleticism inside. Harris has that shake and bake but I'm unimpressed with his ball skills (going to get the ball, etc.). I would like to see another guy who is at least a couple inches over 6 feet line up on the outside and be able to get the ball from the wide position.

 

[reddyuta]

Other than Dez, I don't feel like we have a great outside presence who can work the sideline. Austin is capable but most dangerous with his athleticism inside. Harris has that shake and bake but I'm unimpressed with his ball skills (going to get the ball, etc.). I would like to see another guy who is at least a couple inches over 6 feet line up on the outside and be able to get the ball from the wide position.

I agree,i dont think Harris can be a no 2 if austin or dez goes down.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Other than Dez, I don't feel like we have a great outside presence who can work the sideline. Austin is capable but most dangerous with his athleticism inside. Harris has that shake and bake but I'm unimpressed with his ball skills (going to get the ball, etc.). I would like to see another guy who is at least a couple inches over 6 feet line up on the outside and be able to get the ball from the wide position.

Witten and Hannah both are a couple inches over 6 feet. Hannah has the speed to be an outside presence.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'm not opposed to drafting a WR, but doing so means giving up on a WR that is currently on the roster.

You would have Dez, Miles, Harris, Rookie, Beasley, Coale, Armstrong, and whoever else. I understand Armstrong is a vet, but WR is largely a numbers game. You can't give 6 WRs playing time.

You are not going to draft a player who you think would be beaten out by everyone on your roster. You don't spend a pick thinking...we think he has no chance on this team because everyone else we have is better.

 

[Idgit]

You are not going to draft a player who you think would be beaten out by everyone on your roster. You don't spend a pick thinking...we think he has no chance on this team because everyone else we have is better.

Yep. And it's Armstrong's spot on the line, anyway.

The team went out and added him last season, I think, because they were looking for someone to fill just that need for a player who can consistently beat press and make teams pay for it down the field. And mostly because of what that does for the rest of the offense if you can pull coverage to the outside effectively. Armstrong didn't do that effectively, but he's keeping that seat warm for someone who can.

Coale and Beasley can fight for snaps at the bottom of the rotation. Both are capable slot guys, and both are talented enough to push the guys in front of them for snaps. But neither are, physically, the guy we had in Robinson the year before last.

I think the team values that more than is popularly believed. If there's a guy who fits the bill at value in round 2-3, I bet we strongly consider pulling the trigger.

 

[RS12]

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“@IrishSpartan1: @BryanBroaddus Is there a position Dallas could suprise us with in Rd 1&2 while were all talking trenches and safety?” WR.
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[DFWJC]

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Good timing on that one.

 

[Doomsday101]

I understand there's some value at wide receiver in the later rounds but I just don't see the need. Yes Miles Austin can be fragile, but I think guys like Harris and Beasley showed enough to earn that trust needed to come in and produce. I also believe Coale can develop into a nice player. So in my opinion I don't see the need in drafting a receiver until about the 6th round. Basing it entirely on need, the cowboys should get a player other than a receiver in the mid rounds. So I ask, why should we consider this position in the aforementioned mid rounds?

Because you don't draft on need alone, if there is someone they really like and can make the WR core stronger then get him.

 

[RS12]

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 4h
@BenGillespie4 His former HC is here now at WR. The player that seems to be on the minds of guys is Wheaton from Oregon St.
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Would remind you of Terry Glenn and Mike Wallace

 

[DFWJC]

Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 4h
@BenGillespie4 His former HC is here now at WR. The player that seems to be on the minds of guys is Wheaton from Oregon St.
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Would remind you of Terry Glenn and Mike Wallace

Wheaton. Yes

And thos are good comparable too.

Very fast (4.4), good hands, good routes, fairly strong for a WR, and a huge vertical (37') to allow him to go up high if needed.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Yep. And it's Armstrong's spot on the line, anyway.

The team went out and added him last season, I think, because they were looking for someone to fill just that need for a player who can consistently beat press and make teams pay for it down the field. And mostly because of what that does for the rest of the offense if you can pull coverage to the outside effectively. Armstrong didn't do that effectively, but he's keeping that seat warm for someone who can.

Coale and Beasley can fight for snaps at the bottom of the rotation. Both are capable slot guys, and both are talented enough to push the guys in front of them for snaps. But neither are, physically, the guy we had in Robinson the year before last.

I think the team values that more than is popularly believed. If there's a guy who fits the bill at value in round 2-3, I bet we strongly consider pulling the trigger.

Don't see it. Cowboys taking bpa approach. And OL and DL will have more quality players available than wr's. Maybe even rb too.

 

[Idgit]

Don't see it. Cowboys taking bpa approach. And OL and DL will have more quality players available than wr's. Maybe even rb too.

Now, bear in mind, I want BPA, too.

 

[percyhoward]

I keep thinking back to Romo's comment when asked about the chemistry between him and Robinson. Romo basically said the "chemistry" was just the fact that Robinson consistently ran the correct route.

If that type of receiver (speed and discipline) is available, he would be hard to pass up.

 

[RS12]

Don't see it. Cowboys taking bpa approach. And OL and DL will have more quality players available than wr's. Maybe even rb too.

Up to 40 guys with draftable grades at WR this year.

 

[Idgit]

I keep thinking back to Romo's comment when asked about the chemistry between him and Robinson. Romo basically said the "chemistry" was just the fact that Robinson consistently ran the correct route.

If that type of receiver (speed and discipline) is available, he would be hard to pass up.

Yep. If you're confident you can address OL early and with a VFA, I'm not sure there's much more you can do to help the offense than to add another player in that Robinson mold.

That's taking nothing from the guys we've got. I think it's a really strong corps if we add another talented outside player to it. Lots of good passing game options for any defense. Especially if the RB we add can catch, too.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Up to 40 guys with draftable grades at WR this year.

But better quality at OL and DL for rounds 2 & 3.

Ourlads Top 50 Players
WR - 6
OL & DL - 32

Ourlads Top 100 Players
WR - 13
OL & DL - 53

 

[Future]

You are not going to draft a player who you think would be beaten out by everyone on your roster. You don't spend a pick thinking...we think he has no chance on this team because everyone else we have is better.

Right. So if you think he is better than the other guys on the roster, that could very well mean that they are giving up on another young guy - therefore impeding their progress.

I like having competition for playing time, but that could very well mean that young players don't get to see the field as often as they might without it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Right. So if you think he is better than the other guys on the roster, that could very well mean that they are giving up on another young guy - therefore impeding their progress.

I like having competition for playing time, but that could very well mean that young players don't get to see the field as often as they might without it.

competition takes place every day in training camp and practice. Why do so many young players not play in the game? Likely because of what the coaches see through out the week. That is where players earn their chance.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Right. So if you think he is better than the other guys on the roster, that could very well mean that they are giving up on another young guy - therefore impeding their progress.

I like having competition for playing time, but that could very well mean that young players don't get to see the field as often as they might without it.

Good...so let's not give up on all of the crap Olinemen we have drafted after the 1st round. I mean if we draft someone else we are impeding their progress.

Good grief.

 

[Idgit]

But better quality at OL and DL for rounds 2 & 3.

Ourlads Top 50 Players
WR - 6
OL & DL - 32

Ourlads Top 100 Players
WR - 13
OL & DL - 53

That stands to reason, though, given there are 5 OL 3-4 DL starting positions on each team, and only two starting WRs. Ie, teams are going to be selecting the OL/DLs at a higher rate, too.

It's going to come down to value where we pick. Personally, I'd rather go OL/DL in the first, and second, but I can see a situation where value at WR is there on the board, too, and we go for it.