Everyone that wants JJ to hire a "real GM"...

[Cowboys22]

...need to realize that bringing in the TOs and Tanks would never happen in that case. GMs whose jobs are on the line are much less likely to take risks like these. JJ has no fear of losing his job as the GM so he willing to go out on the limb and take the risk. I, for one, am happy about this. I also like that JJ has seemed to go about these situations extremely smart and carefully. It seems the team always has an easy out if things go bad. I know he has made many mistakes in the past as GM but they seem to be getting less and less frequent since Jeff Ireland arrived. I dread the day that guy leaves for a GM job somewhere else.

 

[TunaFan33]

...need to realize that bringing in the TOs and Tanks would never happen in that case. GMs whose jobs are on the line are much less likely to take risks like these. JJ has no fear of losing his job as the GM so he willing to go out on the limb and take the risk. I, for one, am happy about this. I also like that JJ has seemed to go about these situations extremely smart and carefully. It seems the team always has an easy out if things go bad. I know he has made many mistakes in the past as GM but they seem to be getting less and less frequent since Jeff Ireland arrived. I dread the day that guy leaves for a GM job somewhere else.

Well-if you've been watching football the last 10 years, the Giants' "real GM" took alot of gambles and got alot of high talented/high risk players. And didn't New England get Moss? Or how about San Diego's AJ Smith, they have like 3 or 4 TOs on that team?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Yeah praise Jerry. He went out and signed a guy no one else would touch.
A guy who got his body guard killed. All hail Jerry.

 

[BigDFan5]

Well-if you've been watching football the last 10 years, the Giants' "real GM" took alot of gambles and got alot of high talented/high risk players. And didn't New England get Moss? Or how about San Diego's AJ Smith, they have like 3 or 4 TOs on that team?

and the Giants GM is now gone and his team is in shambles

Moss wasnt a gamble IMO

AJ Smith looks like a ****** right now

 

[BigDFan5]

A guy who got his body guard killed.

stupid

 

[theogt]

Yeah praise Jerry. He went out and signed a guy no one else would touch.

You can think that no one would touch him all you want, but if we wouldn't have signed him this week there would likely have been numerous teams lined up to sign him next week or the week after. The closer it got to his suspension being over, the more teams were going to be knocking his door down.

We got first dibs because he really wanted to play here for some reason (even before Ferguson went down).

 

[Dave_in-NC]

stupid

ESPN.com news services

Two days after last December's raid, Willie B. Posey, Johnson's bodyguard, was shot and killed in an early morning fight while he and Johnson were at a Chicago nightclub.

You really think Tank had nothing to do with the fight? Stupid.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Yup he has a nice guy quire boy past why believe what is written.

 

[BigDFan5]

ESPN.com news services

Two days after last December's raid, Willie B. Posey, Johnson's bodyguard, was shot and killed in an early morning fight while he and Johnson were at a Chicago nightclub.

You really think Tank had nothing to do with the fight? Stupid.

YOU said he got his bodyguard killed, now prove that or shut it. Saying stupid **** like that is wrong

 

[5mics]

Yeah praise Jerry. He went out and signed a guy no one else would touch.
A guy who got his body guard killed. All hail Jerry.

Isn't potentially risking your life part of being a body guard?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

ESPN.com news services

Two days after last December's raid, Willie B. Posey, Johnson's bodyguard, was shot and killed in an early morning fight while he and Johnson were at a Chicago nightclub.

You really think Tank had nothing to do with the fight? Stupid.

johnson was in a club and a guy bumped into him the two exchanged words and Posey intervened at which point the guy pulled his piece and shot Posey. Its cute that you have no knowledge of the specifics of the incident yet you make assumptions that are blatantly wrong.

johnson was never involved in any fight and the Posey was just trying to get the man away from johnson when he was shot.

 

[sago1]

I think Jerry Jones is the absolute best owner in the NFL. I do think he has made a lot of mistakes as GM since as far as the drafts in 1994 although we did draft Larry Allen in the 2nd round. For many years our drafts were absolutely atrocious and directly lead to the serious decline of our Cowboys which noticeably begin in 1997.

We did occasionally get a good player here and there (Greg Ellis, Dat Nguyen, Flozel Adams & one or 2 others) but nowhere near enough and those coaches he hired didn't help. With the arrival of Parcells our drafts significantly improved particularly when Ireland took over as head of scouting. It was noticeable we also become much more successful in the later rounds, undrafted free agent signings & the FAs we had to sign to make up for all those poor drafting years.

The way I see it is that Jerry just doesn't have the eye for talent that he thinks he does. Real GMs like those with the Colts (Polian), Pioto of the Patriots, Smith of the Chargers, etc. I don't doubt for a second that Jerry is trying as hard as he can to be that kind of GM. Also no doubt in my mind that Jerry loves the Cowboys and would do everything he can (unlike so many owners) to win more SBs.

Agree that only an owner like Jerry would bring in TO (although Denver was also in the running but unwilling put out the kind of money Jerry did) even though I'm not sure Parcells was in favor of it. But then not all of Parcells decisions was right on either & his style of coaching might have hindered the team from taking the next step but all that remains to be determined. I do believe that w/o the TO signing we would not have the quality offense we do today. But then again w/o Romo who Sean Peyton brought in but Parcells kept around, we wouldn't be as good either. I was surprised when Parcells decided not to come back but may it's for the best cause he had nothing left to give this team but did leave a firm foundation.

There's no doubt in my mind that Jerry would not have signed Tank Johnson unless Wade Phillips expressed concern about our DL -- not sure if it is the NT position and/or DE as well. It's a gamble but Jerry sure has ensured it won't hurt the Cowboys financially. Admittedly I don't like the problems he brings with him, but hopefully he's not so dumb or unable/unwilling to change and will grasp the brass ring Jerry is offering him back to the NFL. And reality is if we hadn't sign him somebody else would have.

BTW: Don't think for a minute that the Pats signing of Randy Moss wasn't based on the success the Cowboys have had with TO.

 

[Idgit]

ESPN.com news services

Two days after last December's raid, Willie B. Posey, Johnson's bodyguard, was shot and killed in an early morning fight while he and Johnson were at a Chicago nightclub.

You really think Tank had nothing to do with the fight? Stupid.

Note to self: never go to nightclub with Dave_in-NC.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

johnson was in a club and a guy bumped into him the two exchanged words and Posey intervened at which point the guy pulled his piece and shot Posey. Its cute that you have no knowledge of the specifics of the incident yet you make assumptions that are blatantly wrong.

johnson was never involved in any fight and the Posey was just trying to get the man away from johnson when he was shot.

You have proof that is all that took place? Were you there? Or is that your opinion? Following the threads about this guy you seem to think he is a model citizen. Police drop charges every day against criminals. None of us know why they did it in this case. If this goof signed with the Skins, this forum would be laughing so loud they would hear us in Washington. The same way most laughed when the Eagles signed owens.
We have a decent team who seems to have pretty good chemistry. No reason to risk any of that for a man who is to stupid to understand basic laws.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Note to self: never go to nightclub with Dave_in-NC.

I won't get you shot.

 

[zrinkill]

There are 31 other teams that Jerry Jones is not the Owner/GM of.

I believe if Jerry being GM bothers anyone enough for it to ruin their football experience, they should pick one.

 

[zrinkill]

"I'm very happy that Tank gets another opportunity," (Lovie) Smith told KTBB-AM. "He'll always be special to me. He helped us a lot here. He made a couple of bad decisions. Tank Johnson is not one of the bad guys we have going around here. He'll help the Cowboys a lot. He's a good football player."

Hopefully he is being truthful instead of just being nice.

 

[joseephuss]

There are 31 other teams that Jerry Jones is not the Owner/GM of.

I believe if Jerry being GM bothers anyone enough for it to ruin their football experience, they should pick one.

Ruin? No, but it is disappointing that the team has not won a playoff game since 1996 and only appeared in 4 playoff games since that time. That is why I want JJ to hire a "real GM".

I did not consider Parcells a "real GM". He was a coach. I don't believe the sentiment that he should buy his own groceries. The coach should be involved in the process and have input while buying the groceries, but the coach also has a lot of other duties to deal with. Adding GM aspects to it is a lot to ask of one person.

Even with a "real GM", the Cowboys could have still signed T.O. and Tank. Jerry would still be the owner and could persuade his GM to make those moves.

I want to add a "real GM" because Jerry's way has not worked. It has not come close to working. A "real GM" may not guarantee success, but at least it will be trying something different. And I think Jerry is the best owner in sports.

 

[Doomsday101]

"I'm very happy that Tank gets another opportunity," (Lovie) Smith told KTBB-AM. "He'll always be special to me. He helped us a lot here. He made a couple of bad decisions. Tank Johnson is not one of the bad guys we have going around here. He'll help the Cowboys a lot. He's a good football player."

Hopefully he is being truthful instead of just being nice.

Tank better gets his act together. The biggest upside to this is Dallas is not risking much to bring him here

 

[Doomsday101]

Ruin? No, but it is disappointing that the team has not won a playoff game since 1996 and only appeared in 4 playoff games since that time. That is why I want JJ to hire a "real GM".

I did not consider Parcells a "real GM". He was a coach. I don't believe the sentiment that he should buy his own groceries. The coach should be involved in the process and have input while buying the groceries, but the coach also has a lot of other duties to deal with. Adding GM aspects to it is a lot to ask of one person.

Even with a "real GM", the Cowboys could have still signed T.O. and Tank. Jerry would still be the owner and could persuade his GM to make those moves.

I want to add a "real GM" because Jerry's way has not worked. It has not come close to working. A "real GM" may not guarantee success, but at least it will be trying something different. And I think Jerry is the best owner in sports.

Jerry is the GM and that is not going to change. In the meantime he has helped to put together what looks to be a quality team with some real talent and if this team can win a SB then I would hope that Jerry will get his dues from the critics after all Jerry has taken the heat and made no excuses for mistakes in the past.