Everyone wants to move Henry to FS But..

[TEK2000]

I am all for playing a more aggressive 3-4 scheme with the players we have now, I think it would be very successful. However, knowing that BP is NOT an aggressive coach on the D side of the ball.. we have to do something to try and get RW out of coverage responsibility while allowing him to do what he does best, play at the LOS.

Along those lines as well.... BP might have been the one that was so dang stubborn in forcing us to stay in our base defense all the time... so, you think he'd go for a big change to the base defense?

BP's stubbornness and the elementary defensive schemes we used...:bang2:

 

[juck]

why dont we just trade RW and get a SS that can cover,isnt that a safety responsibility,jeez.You can only cover a problem so long.

 

[theogt]

This thread is chock full of bad ideas.

 

[TEK2000]

why dont we just trade RW and get a SS that can cover,isnt that a safety responsibility,jeez.You can only cover a problem so long.

Please start naming names of SS's who are better.

 

[bysbox1]

Honestly, I just think we need to stop playing Cover2 80% of the time and go to a more traditional model with FS and Strong playing more traditional coverage schemes. Flip flop the Strong and Free a bit more. Match up the FS to the strong side of the formation and let him take coverage as opposed to letting teams dictate Roy covers all the time. While your at it, lose 10 to 15 pounds Roy and help yourself out with the part of your game that is preventing you from being the impact player you can be. JMO.

I think RW will do that. He's too proud of a player and I am sure he has heard enough in the media about his coverage that he will lose the weight. Hell I would not be surprised if he brings in DW to help him in the off season with his coverage skills.

 

[jazzcat22]

How about just leaving it at...RW had a bad year...make him lose 10 to 15 pounds without losing his strength. Then he can be a whole loaf short of a LB, than a biscuit. Bring in a vet FS and let Watkins learn for another year.

Do not draft a FS, because he will need to learn also, might as well put Watkins back in. So that's why we need a vet [if available].

RW did come up with some key INT's, so he is not a complete failure back there. Henry and Newman had some bad games and got burnt more than normal also.

 

[bbgun]

I'm curious: does this means Watkins sucks or Henry sucks as a cb? If either guy is doing his job, we're not even talking about this.

 

[TNCowboy]

I know but honestly, what other scheme is going to allow you to play RLWs in the role he can be most effective while at the same time, masking his coverage weakness?

I think that if Roy would lose some weight, have a better coaches in charge, have at least a decent pass rush in front of him, and have a FS beside him who isn't a total liability, he'd probably be more of the player we all hope to see.

I also don't think he has the mental toughness that you hope to see in star players. The way he hides from the media after a bad game is shameful, almost cowardly. I can't think of any other players on the team that act as timid as he does when it's time to face the music. I almost expect to see him sweating profusely and being escorted away, ala Leon Lett.

His first couple of seasons, he wasn't near the liability in coverage he is now. So I don't buy the notion that he can't cover. He used to not be so poor. When Woodson got hurt halfway through the '02 season, RW stepped up and was a monster the last half of the season....one of the best performances by a Cowboy defensive player in years. It seems to me that the longer he's here, the more his play declines.

 

[theogt]

I'm curious: does this means Watkins sucks or Henry sucks as a cb? If either guy is doing his job, we're not even talking about this.

I think it has a little do with wanting to upgrade both the FS and CB positions.

 

[TNCowboy]

I think it has a little do with wanting to upgrade both the FS and CB positions.

Yes. Watkins may be a good player long-term, but the focus will be to try to win next year, not 3 years from now. Watkins may not fit in with Parcells staying another year, as far as starting is concerned.

 

[bbgun]

I think it has a little do with wanting to upgrade both the FS and CB positions.

Well, there's nobody on the team who can step in for Henry at CB. Nor am I thrilled with the idea of using a high pick for a replacement CB. And a FA CB will likely be expen$ive.

 

[theogt]

Yes. Watkins may be a good player long-term, but the focus will be to try to win next year, not 3 years from now. Watkins may not fit in with Parcells staying another year, as far as starting is concerned.

Right, and it's not like having your 5th round draft pick being a full-time starter by year 2 is an absolute priority. He'll be around for a while and is great depth.

 

[stealth]

Just like I used against my brother in the early PS2 Madden days. PUNT block always got a sack or a tackle for a loss!!

I think we should always play punt block as the base defense. It's a Winner! :laugh2:

hahaha I did the dame thing, I had punt block as an audible, it worked so much I felt badly doing it. It stopped working on later editions though, made me sad.

 

[theogt]

Well, there's nobody on the team who can step in for Henry at CB. Nor am I thrilled with the idea of using a high pick for a replacement CB. And a FA CB will likely be expen$ive.

I am thrilled about using a #1 on a CB. It means we'd have a quality CB duo for many years to come. I wouldn't mind Asante Samuel, either. With cap space the way it is now and the way it's looking for the future, $$$ isn't really a problem anymore unless Jerry somehow developed an allergic reaction to spending it.

 

[TEK2000]

Well, there's nobody on the team who can step in for Henry at CB. Nor am I thrilled with the idea of using a high pick for a replacement CB. And a FA CB will likely be expen$ive.

Why not use a high pick for a CB? Aaron Glenn is getting quite old at this point and Henry isn't getting any younger.

A young CB to develop would be nice to have. Rather than having to completely throw him to the wolves his rookie season.

 

[ZeroClub]

Henry is a darn good CB when he's truly healthy.

I feel pretty good about Watkins.

If the choice is between 1) Watkins starting at FS or 2) a rookie starting at CB, I'd be tempted to go with Watkins.

I'd like to see the Cowboys draft a high quality punt returner who has solid potential as a nickel back (i.e., a Devin Hester type), somewhere in the 2nd - 4th rounds, if the draft panned out that way.

 

[bbgun]

I am thrilled about using a #1 on a CB. It means we'd have a quality CB duo for many years to come. I wouldn't mind Asante Samuel, either. With cap space the way it is now and the way it's looking for the future, $$$ isn't really a problem anymore unless Jerry somehow developed an allergic reaction to spending it.

Jerry already has a ton of money tied up in Newman, Roy and Henry. I don't see him adding more big buck$ to the secondary.

 

[zrinkill]

Jerry already has a ton of money tied up in Newman, Roy and Henry. I don't see him adding more big buck$ to the secondary.

I agree with that .....

But I think Safety may be in Henry's future.

 

[theogt]

Jerry already has a ton of money tied up in Newman, Roy and Henry. I don't see him adding more big buck$ to the secondary.

Well, he's actively considering it. If he was so averse to the idea, I don't think he would have reacted the way he did to the question.

 

[bbgun]

Well, he's actively considering it. If he was so averse to the idea, I don't think he would have reacted the way he did to the question.

That poses another problem/question: why is Jerry opining on this at all? Henry moving to safety or TO returning or new assistants being hired should be left to the head coach alone, who controls all personnel decisions. That guy might be Parcells or it might be someone else in the coming weeks, but Jerry should have zero input on on-the-field issues. Henry should only move to safety if it makes sense to the guy with the whistle around his neck.