Expect difficult negotiations for Bryant

[Galian Beast]

Yeah I'm on the phone and splitting quotes is tough to follow. Didn't catch it in time.

Let me give you a scenario

Player makes 1 dollar in a salary cap of 100 dollars in year 1, but in year 2 the player makes 2 dollars in a salary cap of 250 dollars...

The amount the player made has increased but the percentage or share of the overall salary cap has diminshed given the rate of the overall increase.

This is happening because you have a lot of wide receivers who are in that 2nd and 3rd tier, there is too much competition, and thus it has decreased their value. Also teams have recognized that you don't win championships paying wide receivers.

A lot of WR money is going to tight ends now.

 

[Hoofbite]

Let me give you a scenario

Player makes 1 dollar in a salary cap of 100 dollars in year 1, but in year 2 the player makes 2 dollars in a salary cap of 250 dollars...

The amount the player made has increased but the percentage or share of the overall salary cap has diminshed given the rate of the overall increase.

This is happening because you have a lot of wide receivers who are in that 2nd and 3rd tier, there is too much competition, and thus it has decreased their value. Also teams have recognized that you don't win championships paying wide receivers.

A lot of WR money is going to tight ends now.

1. I'm not sure this is entirely the case.

2. I don't see why it would matter if it were accurate. That doesn't mean anything is cheaper, it just means that you would have more cap space to work with after paying a WR provided you haven't already built salary increases into future years, which is something teams most certainly do.

Your internet bill doesn't decrease the moment you get a raise. You just have more money to spend elsewhere.

The team will pay more if they wait a year. The cap will be the same next year whether they sign him now or sign him next year. If waiting increases his dollar amount, his percentage would be higher and there's absolutely no argument that can be made in terms of absolute dollar amount or relative percentage that would favor waiting.

 

[Galian Beast]

1. I'm not sure this is entirely the case.

2. I don't see why it would matter if it were accurate. That doesn't mean anything is cheaper, it just means that you would have more cap space to work with after paying a WR provided you haven't already built salary increases into future years, which is something teams most certainly do.

Your internet bill doesn't decrease the moment you get a raise. You just have more money to spend elsewhere.

The team will pay more if they wait a year. The cap will be the same next year whether they sign him now or sign him next year. If waiting increases his dollar amount, his percentage would be higher and there's absolutely no argument that can be made in terms of absolute dollar amount or relative percentage that would favor waiting.

You're confusing a few things. As the rate WR costs increase begin to slow, you see a general flatlining in those increases, especially when you compare them to the salary cap.

All positions generally are going to get more expensive not less with few exceptions, but not at the same rate. And that is crucial.

In 2008 when resigned Owens we gave him a 4 year extension worth 34 million dollars. Or 8.5 million per year. Just with inflation that would be worth 9.41 million per year on average today. The rate in which receivers are getting increases has fallen sharply, especially after you saw the johnson and fitzgerlad deals.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Franchise him next year.

 

[Hoofbite]

You're confusing a few things. As the rate WR costs increase begin to slow, you see a general flatlining in those increases, especially when you compare them to the salary cap.

All positions generally are going to get more expensive not less with few exceptions, but not at the same rate. And that is crucial.

In 2008 when resigned Owens we gave him a 4 year extension worth 34 million dollars. Or 8.5 million per year. Just with inflation that would be worth 9.41 million per year on average today. The rate in which receivers are getting increases has fallen sharply, especially after you saw the johnson and fitzgerlad deals.

I think you're making it out to be more complicated than it really is.

Will Dez cost more in actual dollars next offseason than he does now? If the answer is "yes" you don't wait if you don't have to.

 

[Galian Beast]

I think you're making it out to be more complicated than it really is.

Will Dez cost more in actual dollars next offseason than he does now? If the answer is "yes" you don't wait if you don't have to.

Except that is not necessarily the case.

You could decide to pay Dez 14 million dollar this year, and then next year the market for Wide Receivers tops out at 10-11 million dollars...

Because I can tell you right now the market isn't at 14 million, and it's much closer to 10-11.

Could you pay Dez 12 million a bit over the market value so you don't have to risk him setting a new market value with a big year? Absolutely you could do that, but you don't pay him much more than that.

 

[zrinkill]

Dez will sign a long term Cowboys friendly deal just like Smith did.

He wants respect not to be paid the most ....... a long term deal will show him that respect.