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AdamJT13;1325495 said:
well it was still a bad call he didnt touch the guy? is breathing on him a penalty?
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This is a stupid thread...
1) Face gaurding is a penalty (construed as pass interference)
2) There was face gaurding on the play
3) Therefor penalty
If you wan't to debate whether or not face guarding should be illegal thats fine but currently it is not, it was the correct call.
(If face guarding were legal corners would simply start putting their hands in front of recievers faces without paying any attention to the play...it would become almost impossible to catch a ball...so its pretty neccesary)
1) Face gaurding is a penalty (construed as pass interference)
2) There was face gaurding on the play
3) Therefor penalty
If you wan't to debate whether or not face guarding should be illegal thats fine but currently it is not, it was the correct call.
(If face guarding were legal corners would simply start putting their hands in front of recievers faces without paying any attention to the play...it would become almost impossible to catch a ball...so its pretty neccesary)
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AdamJT13;1325495 said:
Actually your wrong. The official called Face guarding. I recorded the game I will put the vid up for you this week. I know for a fact because u never hear that announced like that and he did say face guarding which was odd.
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theebs;1325527 said:
What network were you watching, then? On the network feed on CBS, you never hear the referee say what type of penalty it was. His mike comes in when he says "on the defense ..."
But there is no such thing as "face guarding" in the NFL. There hasn't been such a penalty in the rule book for many years.
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Can you call pass interference on a defender if he is turned toward the wide receiver, not looking at the ball, waves his arms, but doesn't touch the wide receiver at all? Say the ball is in the air and hits the defender in the arm because he deflects the pass. Again, he doesn't touch the WR, but isn't looking at the ball either. --Dawn Polomsky, Phoenix, Ariz.
Many years ago, there was a penalty on pass plays for "face guarding." What you describe is face guarding. There is no penalty under current NFL rules for this act, unless there is physical contact. If the ball hits the defender, as you describe, the play would be legal. It is dangerous for a defender to turn his back on the direction that the ball is coming from. If he contacts the intended receiver, it would be pass interference because the defender is not playing the ball. You seldom see what you describe, but it would not be a foul.
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3) What is the official rule against "face-guarding" when a defender is trying to break up a pass? Is there a certain amount of space he must be within of the receiver for this penalty to be called?
There is no such thing as face-guarding in the National Football League. It is legal to face-guard a receiver. In order to have pass interference you must have contact. Any act without contact is not considered a foul.
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AdamJT13;1325766 said:
i will put the clip up this week. I am putting the game on disc for a relative. So when i go through it I will put it up..
and of course i was watching cbs. Also eric allen pointed out on espn that it was PI it was Face guarding.
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Juke99;1325799 said:Only if you had garlic bread with your dinner the night before.
Honestly.
It's in the rule book.
adamjt just said it wasnt a rule... and garlic bread is delicious.
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ADAM you are right. I went back and watched the play again and I thought the official said face guarding in the background.
He says the penalty and then turns on his mike and says defense...first down...then simms said it.
it is impossible to make out what the official said before turning his mike on.
So you are right on that, but simms and eric allen said it and there was no contact on the play whatsoever so that is the call but they dont identify it that way.
He says the penalty and then turns on his mike and says defense...first down...then simms said it.
it is impossible to make out what the official said before turning his mike on.
So you are right on that, but simms and eric allen said it and there was no contact on the play whatsoever so that is the call but they dont identify it that way.
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Juke99;1325817 said:No, Adam said face guarding wasn't a rule.
He never said anything about face garlicing.
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AdamJT13;1325885 said:
there was no contact at all. You could see hobbs got lost and just jumped!! I think he was anticipating the ball later...He just jumped while wayne was about to catch it.
You can quote the rulebook over and over, but most know it as face guarding that is why too players who played at a high level in the nfl called it that tonight..
and I am pretty sure eric allen knows what he is talking about...
who cares anyway? seriously, it was a corner getting beat and not allowing the wr to have the opportunity to make a play and you cant do that.
Terrance newman did that earlier in the year and got away with it, they didnt throw the flag...i just cant remember what game..I think it was a home game...at some point i will remember.