Fans should know CBA rules for contract negotiations

[revospeed]

The player must choose to act on his own behalf. Micah has not chosen to do that. That is the key here. Yes a player may act in his own behalf, but he has officially decided to use an agent.

So the pice from article 48 you have mentioned is not valid unless the player choose to act on his behalf, which Micah has not.

A player can negotiate on his own behalf. He did that when he talked with Jerry. There is no requirement that he renounce his agent before he can have a conversation with Jerry about his contract. Where are you getting that?

Also, I ask you again, where in the CBA doesnt it say that if a player has an agent, all contract talks must happen with the agent present? You keep avoiding that because you are dishonest or ignorant or maybe both.

 

[blueblood70]

Yes he does. If you don't sign him to a long-term deal you have one unhappy player who I cannot see playing to a level required in terms of effort, so you are over-paying (last year of contract and franchise tagx2) for a player who will not perform at the same level as in the past. (That's if he actually does not sit out games). GM's can see what is going on. Meanwhile his agent (the best in the business) will get him the deal he wants from another team. I don't see him losing out financially.

It's all very well Jerry saying he has the player under contract for 3 seasons, but he wouldn't have the same player, just a very unhappy one.
Jerry has called this completely wrong.

Wrong

he'll lose his trade value if his stats go down. if he becomes a problem employee. a problem player .

Other teams won't offer as much he loses trade value by doing that and the fact that Jerry is going to dictate where he goes he'd be better not to be doing that like sandbagging, Yeah right,

you show me that player does that and the owner who has full control of the trade and where you go you end up in the worst situation ever because he'll trade you to the worst team in the AFC and he won't listen to any other trades...

Don't want to have this become that personal, it's not ,this is Jerry versus the agent this is not Jerry versus Parsons...

parsons and Jerry have a very good relationship jerry just hates this particular agent, that's the problem, you're trying to tell me that a player with this much fire and passion is going to sandbag games because he's upset at contract negotiations...

I can tell you this he's sandbag games fakes injuries, and all that jerry will send them to the ends of the earth on the worst team ever.... Make sure that team knows the situation and you think they're gonna want to pay a guy $43 million a year that's doing this to his current team?

I don't see parsons doing that I just don't.. Still see a deal getting done you think a trade is going to happen it's not happening It's definitely not happening before the season starts....

How is that Prescott played on the franchise tag he had no problems he didn't demand a trade he didn't become this public he had an agent he had a big agency take care of both his contracts never missed practices didn't do any holdouts never resorted to any of this this is more to do with the agent and the agents advice is steering Parsons into the middle of all this mess and it's not have anything to do with him..


So I doubt he's gonna sandbag games because of his agent you know what he can do fire this agent like T higgins did get a new agent and within 48 hours Jerry probably gives him everything he asked for it and more just like Prescott basically owned Jerry...

Made Jerry pay for him having to wait but he did it quietly He did it like a leader with high character this agent doesn't have any of that and he's making Parsons look bad...

 

[Majic]

Apparently he is not the best in the business. No contract is done.
It is not all on Jerry.

He certainly negotiated the best contract in Sports history

 

[blueblood70]

A player can negotiate on his own behalf. He did that when he talked with Jerry. There is no requirement that he renounce his agent before he can have a conversation with Jerry about his contract. Where are you getting that?

Also, I ask you again, where in the CBA doesnt it say that if a player has an agent, all contract talks must happen with the agent present? You keep avoiding that because you are dishonest or ignorant or maybe both.

That's true and false yes he can negotiate on his own behalf but once the outline contract in principle is agreed on verbally it still needs to be sent to his agent it needs to be approved by the agent and further negotiations might be needed and the agent definitely would have to approve him signing it he would have to sign it and witness it But yes what's been done up to this point there was nothing wrong with having these discussions at all bob's trying to make this jerry tried to bypass the agent and that's not true he just doesn't like this agent the agent blew this negotiation up because he got mad because he knew Jerry in Parsons already had a deal in principle and his ego gotten away and now it's become personal between Jerry and the agent..

 

[KingCorcoran]

So weird how so many fall for the Goodell hate. He's nothing but the errand boy for the owners. He's the guy who chops off your head after the king orders it.

So Jerry’s issues with Goodell are really issues with the other owners?

 

[blueblood70]

No crap. That's why he was going to send the contract over to the agent to formalize an the agent declined to look at it.

Like I said I'm not taking sides both parties here equally doing this in poor taste, jerry's ego versus the agent's ego ,and now it's become one of those stalemates because it's a **** match it's bad for both sides and I feel bad for parsons...

 

[Bobhaze]

A player can negotiate on his own behalf. He did that when he talked with Jerry. There is no requirement that he renounce his agent before he can have a conversation with Jerry about his contract. Where are you getting that?

Also, I ask you again, where in the CBA doesnt it say that if a player has an agent, all contract talks must happen with the agent present? You keep avoiding that because you are dishonest or ignorant or maybe both.

I have answered it Revo. We just disagree on the interpretation. I don’t want to make this personal. I have answered your question in good faith several times.

Again, we see the same language in different ways. I’ve read everything you asked me to read and I disagree with your premise and conclusions. But that’s ok. We can agree to disagree.

 

[Majic]

Wrong

he'll lose his trade value if his stats go down. if he becomes a problem employee. a problem player .

Other teams won't offer as much he loses trade value by doing that and the fact that Jerry is going to dictate where he goes he'd be better not to be doing that like sandbagging, Yeah right,

you show me that player does that and the owner who has full control of the trade and where you go you end up in the worst situation ever because he'll trade you to the worst team in the AFC and he won't listen to any other trades...

Don't want to have this become that personal, it's not ,this is Jerry versus the agent this is not Jerry versus Parsons...

parsons and Jerry have a very good relationship jerry just hates this particular agent, that's the problem, you're trying to tell me that a player with this much fire and passion is going to sandbag games because he's upset at contract negotiations...

I can tell you this he's sandbag games fakes injuries, and all that jerry will send them to the ends of the earth on the worst team ever.... Make sure that team knows the situation and you think they're gonna want to pay a guy $43 million a year that's doing this to his current team?

I don't see parsons doing that I just don't.. Still see a deal getting done you think a trade is going to happen it's not happening It's definitely not happening before the season starts....

How is that Prescott played on the franchise tag he had no problems he didn't demand a trade he didn't become this public he had an agent he had a big agency take care of both his contracts never missed practices didn't do any holdouts never resorted to any of this this is more to do with the agent and the agents advice is steering Parsons into the middle of all this mess and it's not have anything to do with him..


So I doubt he's gonna sandbag games because of his agent you know what he can do fire this agent like T higgins did get a new agent and within 48 hours Jerry probably gives him everything he asked for it and more just like Prescott basically owned Jerry...

Made Jerry pay for him having to wait but he did it quietly He did it like a leader with high character this agent doesn't have any of that and he's making Parsons look bad...

Incorrect. This 'situation' won't drag out. It will be sorted by Spring 2026 at the latest in my opinion. Parsons will still only be 26/27. His demand from other teams won't be affected by the 2025 season. But what Cowboys get for him might-another blunder by Jerry. The best trade value would have been March 25 before the draft.

 

[blueblood70]

He certainly negotiated the best contract in Sports history

And he's also been fired and T higgins got the best backup wide receiver two money in the history of football You don't need a great agent when you're a great player to get maximum money that's a misnomer You need an agent yes you need a lawyer you need to make sure all the fine print is correct you're not getting screwed and guaranteed money but you don't need this particular agent you think Parsons needs this agent in this case this is bad for parsons because jerry don't like this agent...


Jerry was more than willing to give parses pretty much everything he asked for until the agent denied he said don't even bother sending it his ego's getting in the way When you're a superstar player on Parsons caliber you do not need the biggest agent you just need a good agent that's it why don't he just join Prescott's team that's the agent who got the most money in the history of the NFL the last two contracts whoever Kirk Cousins agent is, That's where you need to go you act like David M is like the best agent in the entire world have you looked down the sports world have you looked on the Cowboys team there are other players with other agents that have worked out great deals for themselves through a different agent besides David I have a giant ego...lol

agent that can negotiate a big deal and I'd say you better look to Daks agent, that can negotiate a big deal and I'd say you better look to Whatever Agent Prescott had because he's the one that took Jerry to the cleaners did it quietly did it without any drama never missed a practice played on the franchise tag got hurt still got paid got all those tags put in there that's who I want as my agent not David I'm going to make it too personal and ruin negotiations type guy even though he's done great deals in this case it's not good for Parsons...

 

[blueblood70]

I have answered it Revo. We just disagree on the interpretation. I don’t want to make this personal. I have answered your question in good faith several times.

Again, we see the same language in different ways. I’ve read everything you asked me to read and I disagree with your premise and conclusions. But that’s ok. We can agree to disagree.

Don't have to agree or disagree on interpretation the league is never fine Jerry since 1989 for trying to force a player to sign something without his agent present without the approval of his agent...

that's what you're insinuating and it's never happened you have no proof what Jerry's done is not illegal it's not against league rules it would only be against league rules yes he tried to forcefully make Parsons not bring his agent to the final part of this process, that's not what happened, whenever Jerry was ready to send this over to the agent the agent denied even wanting to look at it ,it's all right there recently.

No one's claiming Jerry's in the right here and that he's doing things professionally both these parties are at fault here for having giant egos and causing this mess....

 

[revospeed]

I have answered it Revo. We just disagree on the interpretation. I don’t want to make this personal. I have answered your question in good faith several times.

Again, we see the same language in different ways. I’ve read everything you asked me to read and I disagree with your premise and conclusions. But that’s ok. We can agree to disagree.

I’m a lawyer, and I deal with contracts every single day in my work. There’s no gray area here. You’re just inventing a rule that doesn’t exist. You started this thread claiming that any and all contract negotiation must go through an agent, but the plain language of the CBA (and years of actual practice in the NFL) show that isn’t true.

If what you’re saying were correct, Jerry Jones and the Patriots would have been punished dozens of times over for talking directly with players about contracts without agents present. That never happened, because there is no such rule. Article 48 simply ensures that if an agent is used, they must be certified. It does not require that an agent be used at all.

It’s strange to me that you’ve made this claim with nothing to back it up, and then doubled down as though it were fact. But the reality is simple: there is nothing in the CBA that supports the argument you’re making.

 

[Majic]

And he's also been fired and T higgins got the best backup wide receiver two money in the history of football You don't need a great agent when you're a great player to get maximum money that's a misnomer You need an agent yes you need a lawyer you need to make sure all the fine print is correct you're not getting screwed and guaranteed money but you don't need this particular agent you think Parsons needs this agent in this case this is bad for parsons because jerry don't like this agent...


Jerry was more than willing to give parses pretty much everything he asked for until the agent denied he said don't even bother sending it his ego's getting in the way When you're a superstar player on Parsons caliber you do not need the biggest agent you just need a good agent that's it why don't he just join Prescott's team that's the agent who got the most money in the history of the NFL the last two contracts whoever Kirk Cousins agent is, That's where you need to go you act like David M is like the best agent in the entire world have you looked down the sports world have you looked on the Cowboys team there are other players with other agents that have worked out great deals for themselves through a different agent besides David I have a giant ego...lol

agent that can negotiate a big deal and I'd say you better look to Daks agent, that can negotiate a big deal and I'd say you better look to Whatever Agent Prescott had because he's the one that took Jerry to the cleaners did it quietly did it without any drama never missed a practice played on the franchise tag got hurt still got paid got all those tags put in there that's who I want as my agent not David I'm going to make it too personal and ruin negotiations type guy even though he's done great deals in this case it's not good for Parsons...

Can't see that his agent has done much wrong

 

[KingCorcoran]

• L Player Contract(s) by an agent or representative duly certified by the NFLPA in accordance with the NFLPA agent regulation system and authorized to represent him; or (b) acts on his own behalf in negotiating such NFL Player Contract(s).

There’s always more to the story

That rule forbids a player from being represented by an agent not certified by the NFLPA. Players may not negotiate their own deal if they have an agreement with an NFLPA certified agent. That’s where Micah is now.

Lamar Jackson represented himself in negotiations with Baltimore. Two MVPs and he’s paid less than Tua Tagovailoa. Smooth negotiator. He’s paid substantially less than Dak Prescott. I’ll bet he secures the services of a certified agent for his next contract.

 

[Bobhaze]

I’m a lawyer, and I deal with contracts every single day in my work. There’s no gray area here. You’re just inventing a rule that doesn’t exist. You started this thread claiming that any and all contract negotiation must go through an agent, but the plain language of the CBA (and years of actual practice in the NFL) show that isn’t true.

If what you’re saying were correct, Jerry Jones and the Patriots would have been punished dozens of times over for talking directly with players about contracts without agents present. That never happened, because there is no such rule. Article 48 simply ensures that if an agent is used, they must be certified. It does not require that an agent be used at all.

It’s strange to me that you’ve made this claim with nothing to back it up, and then doubled down as though it were fact. But the reality is simple: there is nothing in the CBA that supports the argument you’re making.

Again…I’m not arguing that a player can negotiate on his own behalf. He can. Unless he chooses to have an agent represent him. In which case the agent must be involved. That changes everything.

That is supported by the CBA. You are arguing that Micah acted on his own behalf in a discussion with Jerry last spring about a contract. Micah has stated he wanted his agent involved. That’s not arguable.

Therefore, the CBA says the agent needs to be involved in this negotiation. The discussion last spring was non-binding and by the same language you have quoted here many times here, is not a valid negotiation IF the player wants his agent involved. Which Micah did.

So I’m not disregarding your argument nor the language of the CBA. In fact I believe it supports my argument. You don’t. We disagree. That’s fine.

 

[revospeed]

That rule forbids a player from being represented by an agent not certified by the NFLPA. Players may not negotiate their own deal if they have an agreement with an NFLPA certified agent. That’s where Micah is now.

Lamar Jackson represented himself in negotiations with Baltimore. Two MVPs and he’s paid less than Tua Tagovailoa. Smooth negotiator. He’s paid substantially less than Dak Prescott. I’ll bet he secures the services of a certified agent for his next contract.

Where does it say that a player cant negotiate his own deal if he has an agent? It doesn’t say that anywhere.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I’m a lawyer, and I deal with contracts every single day in my work. There’s no gray area here. You’re just inventing a rule that doesn’t exist. You started this thread claiming that any and all contract negotiation must go through an agent, but the plain language of the CBA (and years of actual practice in the NFL) show that isn’t true.

If what you’re saying were correct, Jerry Jones and the Patriots would have been punished dozens of times over for talking directly with players about contracts without agents present. That never happened, because there is no such rule. Article 48 simply ensures that if an agent is used, they must be certified. It does not require that an agent be used at all.

It’s strange to me that you’ve made this claim with nothing to back it up, and then doubled down as though it were fact. But the reality is simple: there is nothing in the CBA that supports the argument you’re making.

 

[revospeed]

Again…I’m not arguing that a player can negotiate on his own behalf. He can. Unless he chooses to have an agent represent him. In which case the agent must be involved. That changes everything.

That is supported by the CBA. You are arguing that Micah acted on his own behalf in a discussion with Jerry last spring about a contract. Micah has stated he wanted his agent involved. That’s not arguable.

Therefore, the CBA says the agent needs to be involved in this negotiation. The discussion last spring was non-binding and by the same language you have quoted here many times here, is not a valid negotiation IF the player wants his agent involved. Which Micah did.

So I’m not disregarding your argument nor the language of the CBA. In fact I believe it supports my argument. You don’t. We disagree. That’s fine.

There’s no prohibition in the CBA against a player both having an agent and also negotiating directly with his team. It’s not a binary choice. A player can talk with his GM about contract terms, and then the details get sent over to the agent to formalize or review. This happens all the time across the league.

Your claim that this is somehow barred by the CBA is simply wrong. If it were, then we’d have seen Jerry, Belichick, and countless others fined repeatedly over the years. Article 48, Section 3 expressly provides for penalties if clubs violate the rule, and yet no fines have been issued for situations exactly like the one you’re describing. That alone shows your interpretation doesn’t hold water.

A player can, at any point, choose to negotiate on his own behalf, even if he has an agent. The CBA doesn’t contain language requiring that all communications must go through the agent once one is retained. Your assertion to the contrary isn’t supported by the text, by practice, or by enforcement.

So no, this isn’t a “we just disagree” situation. The plain language, the history of how things actually work, and the lack of penalties for exactly what you’re alleging all confirm that your position is not just unsupported, but flat-out incorrect.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It’s strange to me that you’ve made this claim with nothing to back it up, and then doubled down as though it were fact. But the reality is simple: there is nothing in the CBA that supports the argument you’re making.

JMO, but I think even some good, smart posters (like Bob) hate Jerry so much they're determined to make him culpable for anything and everything.

Plus -- again, IMO -- the vast majority of sports media are so overwhelmingly pro-player that they always have to make the owners look like the bad guys. Just before I hit send I see someone posted a PFT article... Florio is one of the worst on this.

 

[revospeed]

Florio is a hack and a failed lawyer. He doesn't cite what provision of the CBA Jerry is violating. He is doing the same thing Haze is doing in this thread. Throwing out a bunch of BS.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Florio is a hack and a failed lawyer. He doesn't cite what provision of the CBA Jerry is violating. He is doing the same thing Haze is doing in this thread. Throwing out a bunch of BS.

Let me ask you this .......... Parsons filed a lawsuit claiming there is NOT valid agreement ( on a handshake )as Jerry claims. Who has a stronger case?