Fans should know CBA rules for contract negotiations

Bobhaze said:
He can. But if he chooses a certified NFLPA agent to represent him the team must honor that. Period.
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For any contract, a representative lawyer may or may not be hired. Nothing fancy Dan because of the NFL. He has the rights all along for a binding representative. UCC stuff and binding. *(Uniform Commercial Code)

PERIOD. There are NFL standards for player protections! Duh!

I saw a convicted ex-soldier who represented himself all the way to the Supreme Court and won his case!! He used the conviction centers law books and research on his own.
 
CCBoy said:
The player can at any point represent himself...if he chooses.
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Not at any point. Micah would have to sever contractual ties with his agent and inform the union he will represent himself going forward. The NFLPA still has to approve any contract. He cannot change that. He has nothing to gain by not being represented by an NFLPA certified agent.

Whose idea was it to put Micah’s locker next to Dak’s?
 
KingCorcoran said:
Not at any point. Micah would have to sever contractual ties with his agent and inform the union he will represent himself going forward. The NFLPA still has to approve any contract. He cannot change that. He has nothing to gain by not being represented by an NFLPA certified agent.

Whose idea was it to put Micah’s locker next to Dak’s?
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Your attempt to bring in the Justice Department doesn't at all change basics of contracts.

You think lockers are the indicator here? :laugh:

The agent is not the center feature in this projected contract! Jerry will get his way, and legally. Never has been any other way for that man.:popcorn:


"[Irvin] and I would tell them we could do some pretty good business without an agent sitting there. As you well know, I've done most of my negotiating without an agent in the room."

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...ails-on-holdups-in-micah-parsons-negotiations

Jerry knows this well:

His stat line—52.5 sacks, 256 combined tackles, and nine forced fumbles—already rivals seasoned veterans, but what’s most impressive is his effect on Dallas’s win rate.

  • With Parsons active: Cowboys are 41-23 (.671 win percentage)
  • Without Parsons: Cowboys fall to 1-1 (.500 win percentage)
That’s a massive 15.1% swing in win rate, proving Parsons isn’t just a stat-stuffer; he directly determines outcomes.

https://insidethestar.com/1-powerful-number-justifies-micah-parsons-record-cowboys-payday
 
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CCBoy said:
Your attempt to bring in the Justice Department doesn't at all change basics of contracts.

You think lockers are the indicator here? :laugh:

The agent is not the center feature in this projected contract! Jerry will get his way, and legally. Never has been any other way for that man.:popcorn:


"[Irvin] and I would tell them we could do some pretty good business without an agent sitting there. As you well know, I've done most of my negotiating without an agent in the room."

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/...ails-on-holdups-in-micah-parsons-negotiations
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The League and the NFLPA must both approve all players’ contracts. They are otherwise not valid. That has nothing to do with Jones, Parsons, or Mulugheta. None of them can circumvent the CBA.
 
This is, and should be, a non-issue.

The deal is done. I'm telling you..
 
Pass2Run said:
This is, and should be, a non-issue.

The deal is done. I'm telling you..
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I'm not sure why you think this is a done deal?

Micah isn't practicing therefore isn't in game shape.

Im guessing you think they'll announce the day of the Eagles game?

If that is true, what idiot club waits 2 or 3 weeks to allow a player to walk around now and not be game fit? He'd probably be sub-par 2 or 3 games until he gets his legs back.

In a 17 game season, who deliberately handicaps their own team for 2 or 3 games just to "get publicity"?

I dont share your believe this is done and kept back, just doesn't add up at all.
 
Bobhaze said:
One other thought. If the team decides tagging Parsons gives them leverage, it’s fools gold.

Elite NFL players getting tagged damages the relationship between the player and the team because it makes the player feel like they are just a product. Everyone thinks NFL players are greedy and only about the money. But it’s also about feeling respected and appreciated for their talents.

Tagging Parsons will be a huge mistake. If they won’t pay him market value, trade him. I think JJ knows he’s botched this and is clumsily trying to save face. It’s isn’t working.
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Agreed. Tagging him ensures that the bad blood and distractions lasts 3 years and potentially divides the locker room.

JJ might consider this “leverage”, but at what cost? Sacrificing team and fan morale and alienating one of your best players is simply not worth it.

The only options here are to make nice, and sign a long term deal or trade him.

If JJ wants to make a point to stand on business and screw the agent, then give Micah what he wants and trade him to an AFC non-contender for nothing short of huge haul of picks and then move on.

Dragging this out and continuing to piss in the pool publicly like this is only making the situation worse
 
Bobhaze said:
Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.
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There are a number on this forum that should be made read this.
 
KingCorcoran said:
The League and the NFLPA must both approve all players’ contracts. They are otherwise not valid. That has nothing to do with Jones, Parsons, or Mulugheta. None of them can circumvent the CBA.
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There is no contract. That has to be reviewed by both the NFL and Player's Association.

You attempt to make an issue out of nothing here. A contract has to be signed first. All else moved from that point.

The legal team for the Dallas Franchise does not blow these items.

One has to also put his pants on before going outside as well...I don't care how many crumpled calendars are thrown about.

Get him signed and Parsons is dependent upon Jerry, for the record. A correct contract is not an issue. :popcorn:
 
Hawkeye19 said:
Agreed. Tagging him ensures that the bad blood and distractions lasts 3 years and potentially divides the locker room.

JJ might consider this “leverage”, but at what cost? Sacrificing team and fan morale and alienating one of your best players is simply not worth it.

The only options here are to make nice, and sign a long term deal or trade him.

If JJ wants to make a point to stand on business and screw the agent, then give Micah what he wants and trade him to an AFC non-contender for nothing short of huge haul of picks and then move on.

Dragging this out and continuing to piss in the pool publicly like this is only making the situation worse
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Then he's no Lawrence Taylor...volunteer to approve the $100M + contract for him why don't you?
 
Bobhaze said:
Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.
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Why hasn't the NFLPA taken action against Jerry because he's done this repeatedly?
 
CCBoy said:
Then he's no Lawrence Taylor...volunteer to approve the $100M + contract for him why don't you?
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I am fine with trading him. Or with signing him because we are a better team with him on the field.

What I am not fine with is our GM bungling a negotiation this poorly and facing no accountability or consequences for it.
 
Bobhaze said:
Many fans saw the appearance of Jerry Jones on Michael Irvin’s podcast today. Saying he had “an offer on the table for Micah Parsons” with sizeable numbers.

JJ saying all that is a total waste of time and a complete misrepresentation of how NFL contract negotiations are to be conducted according to the NFL’s current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA)

For example, if an NFL player has an NFLPA-certified agent, (which Parson’s agent David Mulugheta certainly is) then all negotiations must go through that agent. Period. Teams are forbidden from contacting or negotiating with players who are represented by an agent without the agent's presence.

Jerry knows this! Clubs can face penalties for violating this rule, including the cancellation of any contract offer or signed contract made outside of these rules.This rule protects players by ensuring they are represented by their agent during negotiations, helping to prevent situations where a team might pressure a player into a less favorable deal without their agent present. (Imagine that)

So if we hear Jerry or Stephen say that “we had an agreement last March”, it is a completely invalid argument. Apparently meant to win in the court of public opinion in hopes that many Cowboys fans should buy that. Don’t buy it. It’s invalid.
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That’s BS!! The agents work for the players, period. If a player goes and agrees with the team on a contract that’s his prerogative, period.
These agents are out to make the most money just like the players so they muck up things if they can get the players to follow their instructions. Yes the CBS has rules in play to follow but it even has to give way to the players wishes. Period
 
Hawkeye19 said:
I am fine with trading him. Or with signing him because we are a better team with him on the field.

What I am not fine with is our GM bungling a negotiation this poorly and facing no accountability or consequences for it.
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That's the issue alright ... he's darn near waiting on an approval by you. For sure, go figure. :laugh:
 
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