Fast Forward: Dallas has Pick of the Litter at Safety

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Over the last few years we seen how the team has finally taken S more seriously. Still no high draft picks. But addresses it in FA as well, hit on Wilson as a later round pick.

One of the S's they mention in the draft is Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State. I seen him play every game, and he would be a great value pick in the 4th or 5th round.
They are deep enough at S, they can wait until day 3 to select one. Especially with contracts expiring after this season of Kearse and Hooker.
 

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https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/fast-forward-dallas-has-pick-of-the-litter-at-safety

Over the last few years we seen how the team has finally taken S more seriously. Still no high draft picks. But addresses it in FA as well, hit on Wilson as a later round pick.

One of the S's they mention in the draft is Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State. I seen him play every game, and he would be a great value pick in the 4th or 5th round.
They are deep enough at S, they can wait until day 3 to select one. Especially with contracts expiring after this season of Kearse and Hooker.
that a bit of odd suggestion we have not only our 3 very good Safety's signed we have guys like Bell and others in the winds.. why draft a deep roster full of safeties.. answer, YOU DONT
Id say Outside Cormer to take Gilmores spot of much more of a critical need right now. Even a WR to take cooks spot.. RB to take zekes spot..

i say no to safety even have issues taking a high TE.. OL, DLI, RB, WR, Corner all needs before Safety or TE
 

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that a bit of odd suggestion we have not only our 3 very good Safety's signed we have guys like Bell and others in the winds.. why draft a deep roster full of safeties.. answer, YOU DONT
Id say Outside Cormer to take Gilmores spot of much more of a critical need right now. Even a WR to take cooks spot.. RB to take zekes spot..

i say no to safety even have issues taking a high TE.. OL, DLI, RB, WR, Corner all needs before Safety or TE
If a S is BPA at #4 or #5 pick, you give it strong consideration. Bell and Coyle and others are still really unknown at S, and as I mentioned, the 2 expiring contracts.
 

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If a S is BPA at #4 or #5 pick, you give it strong consideration. Bell and Coyle and others are still really unknown at S, and as I mentioned, the 2 expiring contracts.
they are unknown because they cant get on the field with 3 starters in place who wont be beat out.. adding more to get no snaps to me is irresponsible drafting. rather take a qb there maybe Stetson Bennett, etc we have much better needs that could also BE BPA.. ie take 2 DTI or 2 OL or 2 WRS instead of choosing one.
 

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Safety is the least of my concerns.


Dallas needs a playmaker with their first pick.

If they choose to pick a offensive lineman like Wright from Tennessee I’d be ok with that too.
Unless Brian Branch slips to our pick.
 

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If a S is BPA at #4 or #5 pick, you give it strong consideration. Bell and Coyle and others are still really unknown at S, and as I mentioned, the 2 expiring contracts.
BPA? Now you're just joshing us.
 

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that a bit of odd suggestion we have not only our 3 very good Safety's signed we have guys like Bell and others in the winds.. why draft a deep roster full of safeties.. answer, YOU DONT
Id say Outside Cormer to take Gilmores spot of much more of a critical need right now. Even a WR to take cooks spot.. RB to take zekes spot..

i say no to safety even have issues taking a high TE.. OL, DLI, RB, WR, Corner all needs before Safety or TE
Agreed safety doesn't hit me as an immediate need, but Kearse and Hooker are on the last year of their deals so if there's value there you consider it.
 

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Agreed safety doesn't hit me as an immediate need, but Kearse and Hooker are on the last year of their deals so if there's value there you consider it.
consider, maybe but again some safety's wing in the wings and another draft for 24.. they would take up a roster space for non need now..so im out don't draft any safety's..also NO DEs and really rather pass on a TE but if Dynamic cant miss projected generational TE comes to us , MAYBE, but im thinki g2023 is were we should be filling holes for.
 

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they are unknown because they cant get on the field with 3 starters in place who wont be beat out.. adding more to get no snaps to me is irresponsible drafting. rather take a qb there maybe Stetson Bennett, etc we have much better needs that could also BE BPA.. ie take 2 DTI or 2 OL or 2 WRS instead of choosing one.
Better "needs" for BPA, will get you a PS guy and will be gone in a year.

We need DT's, so they select one of them over a higher rated S, you get the Ivy and Carrell type DT's that get cut in TC.

Drafting for need players, those guys can very easily sit on the bench as well.
Draft a BPA S at 4 or 5, he gets on the field before Bell and Coyle for sure.
 

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At first I thought, safety? That's the strongest unit in my opinion. Then you reminded me about the contract situation after the season.

Dallas has some depth. However, Quinn seems to want to use three safeties a lot.

The truth is, there is no unit on this team that is set. The Cowboys will need some starters and capable backups everywhere. For the sake of the salary cap most of those guys need to come from the draft in the form of mid round picks like the 4th and 5th.

The Cowboys should always look for BPA after the 2nd round and if Hickman is that guy when the Cowboys are up, then sure.
 

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At first I thought, safety? That's the strongest unit in my opinion. Then you reminded me about the contract situation after the season.

Dallas has some depth. However, Quinn seems to want to use three safeties a lot.

The truth is, there is no unit on this team that is set. The Cowboys will need some starters and capable backups everywhere. For the sake of the salary cap most of those guys need to come from the draft in the form of mid round picks like the 4th and 5th.

The Cowboys should always look for BPA after the 2nd round and if Hickman is that guy when the Cowboys are up, then sure.
Also, Kearse has had some type of injury since he has been here. Has not missed a lot, but has sat out at times.
Hooker had 2 years, and stayed healthy last season. I agree, can't have enough depth.
Wilson seems to have had some minor type injuries as well.

Which is why I say, if one is there, you take him if BPA over any other position. If you have 2 players with about equal draft grade, then yes, go with the player in higher need, such as DT.
 

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Better "needs" for BPA, will get you a PS guy and will be gone in a year.

We need DT's, so they select one of them over a higher rated S, you get the Ivy and Carrell type DT's that get cut in TC.

Drafting for need players, those guys can very easily sit on the bench as well.
Draft a BPA S at 4 or 5, he gets on the field before Bell and Coyle for sure.
Nope, disagree needs meet BPA as you can easily have 3 positions that are close tie for BPA and you take the ones that fit the need NOW vs waiting when you have need for S..sorry this isnt a taco DEAL you cant load up on one position before your BPA landed on one since when does the draft say the rating of said S actually turn out to be that payer is bluechip and wil be Parosns type but you wont know if they are bust until 1-2 years later because they are buried on the depth chart,? what if Bell and Izzy are those next safety's we cant tell because they aren't getting playing time, so draft more bench non-actives because you think that BPA was the right move....
 

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S and 1DT could be BPA in any round and they still wouldn't want to take them untill late day 3. Draft can not get here soon enough
 

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https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/fast-forward-dallas-has-pick-of-the-litter-at-safety

Over the last few years we seen how the team has finally taken S more seriously. Still no high draft picks. But addresses it in FA as well, hit on Wilson as a later round pick.

One of the S's they mention in the draft is Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State. I seen him play every game, and he would be a great value pick in the 4th or 5th round.
They are deep enough at S, they can wait until day 3 to select one. Especially with contracts expiring after this season of Kearse and Hooker.
Agreed. It should be a late round pick but with the way the game is played these days, the deeper your secondary, the better.

Definitely should prioritize CB over safety though. We need another because Gilmore won’t play forever.
 
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