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YoMick;2176732 said:
Well depending how you look at it... it was alot earlier than that.... 1969.

The Internet started to become mainstream with the advent of the graphics browser(Mosaic/Netscape) and then Internet Explorer... AOL... etc...

I think that is the point he is trying to make.

All that stuff was around before Titanic was released in Dec 97... is the point I was trying to make.

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My point had nothing to do with the internet's inception.

k? Neither did mine.
 

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Kilyin;2177601 said:
All that stuff was around before Titanic was released in Dec 97... is the point I was trying to make.


Understood... and wasnt really calling you on anything.

Its just amazing how many things start WAY before we even know about... then when it TAKES OFF and spikes and EVERYONE has it or has to have it.... it is perceived to have just been created etc... not just the internet many if not just about everything.

The internet in 1997 was weak compared to now... there was significantly less EVERYTHING.. chatrooms, bulletin boards, interactio, servers, ad dollars etc. So the effect on a movie then and now is a completely different world.
 

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Still #1 this weekend. Moves into #3 all time after just 4 weekends, totalling $441.5 million.

Just $160 million from #1 all time.
 

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For comparison, Shrek 2 (which is #4 all time) made $441 million total. After its first 4 weekends it made $314 million. That means from Week 5 on it made about $130 million. If TDK can have that sort of stamina, it could take the #1 overall spot.
 

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theogt;2186273 said:
For comparison, Shrek 2 (which is #4 all time) made $441 million total. After its first 4 weekends it made $314 million. That means from Week 5 on it made about $130 million. If TDK can have that sort of stamina, it could take the #1 overall spot.

It's still dropping 40% every weekend. The drop is going to start lessening (evening out to around 20-30% drops) but nothing like Titanic or the Sixth Sense, which stayed even for two months.

TDK should get a nice boost from Labor Day, though, but I am still not seeing anything that would sustain a surge that would question Titanic's reign. I'm staying with my prediction of $525-550 million.
 

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Mavs Man;2186395 said:
It's still dropping 40% every weekend. The drop is going to start lessening (evening out to around 20-30% drops) but nothing like Titanic or the Sixth Sense, which stayed even for two months.

TDK should get a nice boost from Labor Day, though, but I am still not seeing anything that would sustain a surge that would question Titanic's reign. I'm staying with my prediction of $525-550 million.
It should definitely break the $550 million mark.

Titanic and Sixth Sense had strange numbers late in their run, but they didn't anywhere close to TDK's #s after 4 weekends. Titanic had $275 million after 4 weekends.
 

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theogt;2186401 said:
It should definitely break the $550 million mark.

Titanic and Sixth Sense had strange numbers late in their run, but they didn't anywhere close to TDK's #s after 4 weekends. Titanic had $275 million after 4 weekends.

It's possible, but I doubt it. WB today estimated it would end up around $520 M domestically.

Today's movies run on a reverse exponential curve (for lack of the correct mathematical term). Next weekend's gross should run around $16-18 M. The following weekend around $8-10 M. Probably stays at $10 M the next (Labor Day weekend). But $5 M or less every weekend after that. By my estimate that puts it around $510 M the weekend after Labor Day, two months after its release (counting weekday numbers). I could see an additional $40 M for the rest of its run (maybe another 6 weeks) but I can't say it's definite.

Put another way, TDK's box office has mirrored Pirates 2: Dead Man's Chest (albeit at an accelerated rate) in the daily box office day over day totals. At this point DMC had made $350 M, putting TDK 25% ahead of DMC thusfar. DMC made an additional $75 M after this point of its release, so applying an additional 25% to that total yields $95 M for TDK, with a final total of $536 M. And both had a holiday weekend midway through its release (July 4 for DMC, Labor Day for the TDK).

I'm expecting someone to say that DMC did not have the word of mouth, super hype, and critical acclaim that TDK has. While that is definitely true (TDK is twice the film DMC was), the numbers do not lie. TDK is making more money, faster, but it is still dropping at a similar rate.

Also, comparing any movie's run with Titanic's is completely unfair. TDK will not be making $100+ M a month for four months.
 

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theogt;2186401 said:
It should definitely break the $550 million mark.
Mavs Man;2186538 said:
It's possible, but I doubt it. WB today estimated it would end up around $520 M domestically.
Either way that is a lot of cheddar.
 

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Titanic had all those teenage girls going gaga over Dicaprio. TDK does not have that. That is why around $525 is probably where it will stop.
 

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Mavs Man;2186538 said:
It's possible, but I doubt it. WB today estimated it would end up around $520 M domestically.

Today's movies run on a reverse exponential curve (for lack of the correct mathematical term). Next weekend's gross should run around $16-18 M. The following weekend around $8-10 M. Probably stays at $10 M the next (Labor Day weekend). But $5 M or less every weekend after that. By my estimate that puts it around $510 M the weekend after Labor Day, two months after its release (counting weekday numbers). I could see an additional $40 M for the rest of its run (maybe another 6 weeks) but I can't say it's definite.

Put another way, TDK's box office has mirrored Pirates 2: Dead Man's Chest (albeit at an accelerated rate) in the daily box office day over day totals. At this point DMC had made $350 M, putting TDK 25% ahead of DMC thusfar. DMC made an additional $75 M after this point of its release, so applying an additional 25% to that total yields $95 M for TDK, with a final total of $536 M. And both had a holiday weekend midway through its release (July 4 for DMC, Labor Day for the TDK).

I'm expecting someone to say that DMC did not have the word of mouth, super hype, and critical acclaim that TDK has. While that is definitely true (TDK is twice the film DMC was), the numbers do not lie. TDK is making more money, faster, but it is still dropping at a similar rate.

Also, comparing any movie's run with Titanic's is completely unfair. TDK will not be making $100+ M a month for four months.
Oh, I fully understand how it works. And I'm predicting over $550 million.
 

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If they want to make it fair, have IMAX show something else =]
 

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Star wars should be number one considering it came out in the seventies when movie theaters were not as big and the tickets were a lot cheaper.
 

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burmafrd;2186576 said:
Titanic had all those teenage girls going gaga over Dicaprio. TDK does not have that. That is why around $525 is probably where it will stop.


TDK has Heath's death which is partially why its reaching these crazy numbers.
 

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YoMick;2187152 said:
TDK has Heath's death which is partially why its reaching these crazy numbers.
To get numbers like this you have to have great word of mouth and repeat viewers. People aren't going back to see it again or telling others it was good because of Heath's death.
 

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theogt;2186620 said:
Oh, I fully understand how it works. And I'm predicting over $550 million.

:)

No problemo. Then agree to disagree, and I do not mind being wrong.
 

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It won't be official until tonight's tickets are counted, but TDK should pass Batman '89 as the most successful Batman film in the franchise's history (adjusted for inflation at $445 M).

Not bad for the fifth film in the series (there was a movie called Batman & Robin, you say? what is this film you speak of?).
 

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YoMick;2187152 said:
TDK has Heath's death which is partially why its reaching these crazy numbers.

That's only a little bit true. It got many folks -- the mainstream -- into theaters opening weekend. If the film sucked, it wouldn't have made the money it did. What has driven this film is the film itself -- it's damn good and that's what's being said about it via word of mouth. Plus, you've got folks seeing it multiple times and that's not just Batman fans -- another sign of a good film.

The bottom line here is that TDK is a hell of a movie that recieved great reviews by critics and is getting very positive word of mouth. To say that Heath's death is what has drove this film this summer is, with all to respect, nonsense.
 

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Mavs Man;2188287 said:
It won't be official until tonight's tickets are counted, but TDK should pass Batman '89 as the most successful Batman film in the franchise's history (adjusted for inflation at $445 M).

Not bad for the fifth film in the series (there was a movie called Batman & Robin, you say? what is this film you speak of?).

Actullay, it's the second of the series and the 6th of the franchise. Nolan's BATMAN BEGINS and THE DARK KNIGHT have nothing to do with the first four "Burton/Schmacher" films. But I get what you are saying as it was the 6th "BATMAN" in 19 years.

If WB plays there cards right, hires talented directors and writers and lets them do their thing, Batman can be a Bond-like franchise for the studio.
 
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