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theogt;2185473 said:With that hole, Julius Jones would have taken it to the house.
whoa whoa whoa, let's not get silly here
theogt;2185473 said:With that hole, Julius Jones would have taken it to the house.
I disagree. I think other runners would have been tackled, but with Johnson the defense didn't realize how fast he was and took bad angles.theogt;2185414 said:Johnson's fast. There's no doubting that. But that hole was massive and simply running straight ahead through the hole isn't impressive at all.
I'm sure his pure speed helped him quite a bit. We can't know for sure if a slower back wouldn't have done the same thing. But if that is the case, it's not impressive to me at all. Speed alone won't get you much at the RB position.Skinsmaniac;2185482 said:I disagree. I think other runners would have been tackled, but with Johnson the defense didn't realize how fast he was and took bad angles.
True but the explosion is what you can't deny,yea he's fast but the explosion through the whole is what could make him special.theogt;2185467 said:Slight cut back? Heh. Yes, very slight. He basically took a longer stride on his right foot. Other than that, he just ran straight ahead.
Now that just sounds like hatin right there. Anyway I won't try to convince you I know how it is when your mind is made up but it was pretty impressive to me that in his first game the guy did basically what he was drafted for out of college, be the big play threat. I think we will se alot more of that from him as well as Felix Jones.theogt;2185485 said:I'm sure his pure speed helped him quite a bit. We can't know for sure if a slower back wouldn't have done the same thing. But if that is the case, it's not impressive to me at all. Speed alone won't get you much at the RB position.
Goldenrichards83;2185492 said:Now that just sounds like hatin right there.
theogt;2185414 said:Johnson's fast. There's no doubting that. But that hole was massive and simply running straight ahead through the hole isn't impressive at all.
What the hell, dude?TheCount;2185493 said:Do you understand who you're talking to? :laugh2:
theogt;2185505 said:What the hell, dude?
Sorry if it upsets you that I wasn't impressed with him running straight forward. Yes, he's fast. Great. That won't get him much (evidenced by his 11 yards on 5 other carries). The long run was more poor play by the defense than impressive run by Johnson.
I've conceded that I was wrong about Jenkins and Felix. Both have looked much better than I thought they would. With Felix it was more of a problem with drafting a "complementary" player, but based on how the draft fell, it was probably the best decision.TheCount;2185537 said:It was a joke, but you are rather well known for making up your mind on a guy and never conceding the least bit of ground. But you certainly aren't the only one around here.
Thats a good idea.Biggems;2185528 said:I have an idea.....
let's do a preseason and even regular season collection of the stats for
Felix
Mendenhall
CJ
Charles
Stewart
Rice
These were the 6 guys that were debated heavily, since we all realistically knew DMac was out of reach, well 95% of us did anyway.
It showed him scoring a TD isn't that what it is all about. Putting points on the board something he has been doing his entire career. This is only his first game in the NfL and he did what most say he only did because he went to ECU. This is only a taste of more to come eventually you will relent.theogt;2185551 said:I've conceded that I was wrong about Jenkins and Felix. Both have looked much better than I thought they would. With Felix it was more of a problem with drafting a "complementary" player, but based on how the draft fell, it was probably the best decision.
As for Chris Johnson, this clip is just a perfect example of the previous debate. Yes, he has great speed. We can all see that. But is there more than just that speed? This doesn't show anything more.
Yes, some people are impressed by scoring a TD, regardless of whether the run itself was impressive or not.Goldenrichards83;2185586 said:It showed him scoring a TD isn't that what it is all about. Putting points on the board something he has been doing his entire career. This is only his first game in the NfL and he did what most say he only did because he went to ECU. This is only a taste of more to come eventually you will relent.
Goldenrichards83;2185576 said:Thats a good idea.
Ray Rice 6 carries 12 yds and 4 catches 17 yards
Jammal Charles 4 carries 13 yards 1 catch 12 yards
Felix Jones 6 carries 32 yards and 2 catches 29 yards
CJ 6 carries 77 yards and 1 catch 13 yards
Mendenhall 7 carries 34 yards 0 catches
Couldn't find Jonathan Stewart.
theogt;2185414 said:Johnson's fast. There's no doubting that. But that hole was massive and simply running straight ahead through the hole isn't impressive at all.