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Maybe the reason he doesn't get touches is because he hasn't earn the playing time to stay in. Case in point, when Romo was sacked and fumbled, Felix is supposed to read the defense to see where the free blitzer is coming, he didn't see Woodson and he went wide for the pass and Romo got killed.
 

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Goldenrichards83;3083954 said:
Maybe the reason he doesn't get touches is because he hasn't earn the playing time to stay in. Case in point, when Romo was sacked and fumbled, Felix is supposed to read the defense to see where the free blitzer is coming, he didn't see Woodson and he went wide for the pass and Romo got killed.

Or Flozell could have blocked him?
 

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Anyone with good vision can see and has seen that Felix is more like 85/90 percent, if that. He does not not that same quick burst, that we are used to seeing.
His cuts are way too slow, or he is timid and is not sure if his knee can stand up to his normal cutting speed.
Whatever it is, runs where we would excelerate thru the holes, off his cuts, he is not doing that.
So hie play is showing us that he and Wade are not telling the truth, he is not close to 100%.

I'm not so sure Barber is close to 100%. I do know that Barber needs to be moved back to his closer role.
Choice is the best RB on this team, Felix the most explosive when healthy, he needs to stay healthy. Barber is the best pass protecter, closer and short yardage RB we have and he is part of the pulse of this team.

I agree with you, but I disagree with you on Felix being healthy enough, and being the best RB on the team
 

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links18;3083962 said:
Or Flozell could have blocked him?
Flo had 2 guys coming Free. Granted he was probably supposed to block the inside guy which was Woodson but Felix should have read that and picked up one of the guys. Dcfanactic hopefully will show the video where Espn was breaking it down today. He missed the read.
 

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Goldenrichards83;3083984 said:
Flo had 2 guys coming Free. Granted he was probably supposed to block the inside guy which was Woodson but Felix should have read that and picked up one of the guys. Dcfanactic hopefully will show the video where Espn was breaking it down today. He missed the read.

I was thinking the same thing if two games are coming from one said the LT can only block one person. Why in the **** is the RB on the other side of not doing ****?
 

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links18;3083801 said:
You don't have to run the ball to get it into Felix's hand. Another total Garrett failure: not getting Felix involved in the PASSING game. :bang2:

Bingo! Felix should get a least one touch on every drive. The way we are using him doesn't even allow him to be a threat. We run the longest developing sweep in the league. We need him to get the ball faster so the defense doesn't know where he is going rather than the longest handoff ever.
 

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jswalker1981;3083986 said:
Bingo! Felix should get a least one touch on every drive. The way we are using him doesn't even allow him to be a threat. We run the longest developing sweep in the league. We need him to get the ball faster so the defense doesn't know where he is going rather than the longest handoff ever.
I'm thinking it doesn't matter who the starting running back is because Jason Garrett is too stupid to run the ball on a consistent basis.Seema as if Wade told him that he wanted a top ten rushing team we got to eigth so Garrett decided he was 2 spots higher than what Wade wanted him to be and just stopped running the ball
 

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Goldenrichards83;3083984 said:
Flo had 2 guys coming Free. Granted he was probably supposed to block the inside guy which was Woodson but Felix should have read that and picked up one of the guys. Dcfanactic hopefully will show the video where Espn was breaking it down today. He missed the read.

Watch that play again. There is no way the RB who was sent to the right on a swing pattern is supposed to read a corner blitz on that play. It doesnt even make sense to blame the RB for a corner blitzing an the left while his pattern had him going right for a pass. If anything it should have been Romo who read or picked up the corner blitz and got rid of the ball very fast. Watching it again it was a very nice play call for the defense. Woodson didnt show blitz at all.
 

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links18;3083801 said:
You don't have to run the ball to get it into Felix's hand. Another total Garrett failure: not getting Felix involved in the PASSING game. :bang2:

Exactly...when is the last time Felix was used on a screen? ...and what about all this offseason talk about having him line up out wide to take advantage of a LB in coverage....ridiculous!
 

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superonyx;3084121 said:
Watch that play again. There is no way the RB who was sent to the right on a swing pattern is supposed to read a corner blitz on that play. It doesnt even make sense to blame the RB for a corner blitzing an the left while his pattern had him going right for a pass. If anything it should have been Romo who read or picked up the corner blitz and got rid of the ball very fast. Watching it again it was a very nice play call for the defense. Woodson didnt show blitz at all.
I disagree, I've seen Barber pick up that same play numerous times. This year the corner blitz for some reason isn't being picked up by either Romo or the rbs. He definately disguise it well but Felix has to make that play.
 

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If Felix were healthy, this thread wouldn't exist. Clearly he isn't 100%. You can run but not cut with certain knee injuries, as seems to be the case with Felix. I'm sure that they are using him for his outright speed for kick returns, I think that it's obvious he isn't doing a lot of change of direction in any of his runs.

He's an injured back that the team believes can generate some limited production. I'm sure Felix wants to prove his toughness and Jerry might be pushing his first rounder behind the scenes as well. IMO Choice is a better option than either of the compromised starters right now.
 

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Goldenrichards83;3084285 said:
I disagree, I've seen Barber pick up that same play numerous times. This year the corner blitz for some reason isn't being picked up by either Romo or the rbs. He definately disguise it well but Felix has to make that play.

...Crayton saw it and i think Romo should've at least anticipated it...the whole idea of a hot route is to defeat a corner blitz, throwing to the vacated area...sure Romo can assume but if it was that well disguised then nobody would pick it up...i still think what Dungy said has some merit...
 

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I'm convinced that Jason Garrett has no clue how to use the RBs Dallas has on the roster. I'm also convinced that if a game came down to a 4th and 1 and the RBs had 200yds between them, Garrett would opt to throw a 50yd pass.
 

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Yeah, this really stinks now that Chris Johnson is leading the NFL in rushing all while proving that he is a top receiving threat also.
 

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superonyx;3084121 said:
Watch that play again. There is no way the RB who was sent to the right on a swing pattern is supposed to read a corner blitz on that play. It doesnt even make sense to blame the RB for a corner blitzing an the left while his pattern had him going right for a pass. If anything it should have been Romo who read or picked up the corner blitz and got rid of the ball very fast. Watching it again it was a very nice play call for the defense. Woodson didnt show blitz at all.

I played OT in college. The rule is to block the most dangerous defender and let the QB handle the extra rusher. The most dangerous defender is the one closest to the QB at the snap. Flo should have blocked the inside gap. However he always sets too wide for him to redirect his weight and counter to the inside. In his defense always does this to compensate for his lack of mobility and to keep from getting beat by the speed rush to his outside. That is also why he has so many false starts because he is always concerned with the smaller speed rusher. Historicly he has handles some of the dominant rushers in the NFL like Strayhan, Peppers, Bruce Smith. But he struggles with guys like Trent Cole who won't try to engage him they just turn the corner and dip.

Nontheless, it ultimately is Romo's fault. Anytime you have whats called a "2 wide" look. The QB has to check to a hot receiver, or change the protection and call the back to block the extra guy. Evidently the where in some type of 50 protection with the back releasing to the otherside as a checkdown. He could have put them in a 60 protection simply meaning you now have 6 blockers instead of 5 in 50 protection. If GB was in a single high safty look then it had to be Man coverage. His left was the wide side of the field. The 3 step fade should have been wide open. The FS couldn't have come from between the hashmarks to make a play on the sideline. Thats the same CB blitz that he missed against Denver, Troy aikman even said that "Tony has to see that".Peyton manning is not blitzed much because he always see's it and makes the correct adjustment.
 

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HOw much does Garrett utilize the RBs in the passing game? Rarely because Garrett's passing game seems to be limited to requiring the QB to wait 5seconds for the WRs to get 20+yds down field.

THat may have worked in the 90s, but defenses have changed. Players are faster and blitz packages are more complex. It works sometimes, others, as we saw Sunday, it just doesn't work. But do you think Garrett has a plan-b in case his plan-a doesn't work? NOpe, he doesn't
 

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kowboyMarlon;3084509 said:
I played OT in college. The rule is to block the most dangerous defender and let the QB handle the extra rusher. The most dangerous defender is the one closest to the QB at the snap. Flo should have blocked the inside gap. However he always sets too wide for him to redirect his weight and counter to the inside. In his defense always does this to compensate for his lack of mobility and to keep from getting beat by the speed rush to his outside. That is also why he has so many false starts because he is always concerned with the smaller speed rusher. Historicly he has handles some of the dominant rushers in the NFL like Strayhan, Peppers, Bruce Smith. But he struggles with guys like Trent Cole who won't try to engage him they just turn the corner and dip.

Nontheless, it ultimately is Romo's fault. Anytime you have whats called a "2 wide" look. The QB has to check to a hot receiver, or change the protection and call the back to block the extra guy. Evidently the where in some type of 50 protection with the back releasing to the otherside as a checkdown. He could have put them in a 60 protection simply meaning you now have 6 blockers instead of 5 in 50 protection. If GB was in a single high safty look then it had to be Man coverage. His left was the wide side of the field. The 3 step fade should have been wide open. The FS couldn't have come from between the hashmarks to make a play on the sideline. Thats the same CB blitz that he missed against Denver, Troy aikman even said that "Tony has to see that".Peyton manning is not blitzed much because he always see's it and makes the correct adjustment.

Great stuff, more of this please. Most of us stopped playing organized ball in High School I'd assume.

BTW, you've been watching Flo for a couple of years I'd assume, do you think that this game was an outlier, or do you think that he seems considerably less mobile than he has been over the past few seasons. I sometime think that we assume that he has overlooked a rusher that has gotten free, when he actually knows that he can't get to the rusher without an awkward reach so he doesn't even try (worthlessly double teams somebody that Kosier already has engaged etc.)

He seemed to have a pretty good game in Philly - but he was also getting a lot of help on that side as well.
 

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kowboyMarlon;3084509 said:
I played OT in college. The rule is to block the most dangerous defender and let the QB handle the extra rusher. The most dangerous defender is the one closest to the QB at the snap. Flo should have blocked the inside gap. However he always sets too wide for him to redirect his weight and counter to the inside. In his defense always does this to compensate for his lack of mobility and to keep from getting beat by the speed rush to his outside. That is also why he has so many false starts because he is always concerned with the smaller speed rusher. Historicly he has handles some of the dominant rushers in the NFL like Strayhan, Peppers, Bruce Smith. But he struggles with guys like Trent Cole who won't try to engage him they just turn the corner and dip.

Nontheless, it ultimately is Romo's fault. Anytime you have whats called a "2 wide" look. The QB has to check to a hot receiver, or change the protection and call the back to block the extra guy. Evidently the where in some type of 50 protection with the back releasing to the otherside as a checkdown. He could have put them in a 60 protection simply meaning you now have 6 blockers instead of 5 in 50 protection. If GB was in a single high safty look then it had to be Man coverage. His left was the wide side of the field. The 3 step fade should have been wide open. The FS couldn't have come from between the hashmarks to make a play on the sideline. Thats the same CB blitz that he missed against Denver, Troy aikman even said that "Tony has to see that".Peyton manning is not blitzed much because he always see's it and makes the correct adjustment.
Thanks for breaking it down. So Tony is supposed to see that and change his protection. He has to fix that because teams will see he is missing it and do it even more. In his defense he saw it in Philly and he hit Crayton for a long play. He just needs to recognize it more often I suppose.
 

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Goldenrichards83;3084643 said:
Thanks for breaking it down. So Tony is supposed to see that and change his protection. He has to fix that because teams will see he is missing it and do it even more. In his defense he saw it in Philly and he hit Crayton for a long play. He just needs to recognize it more often I suppose.

Sometimes the defense may show it to late to change the protection. Thats why alot of teams run no huddle. Comentators are so wrong most of the time on TV. They think that teams run no huddle so that the defense can't substitute. Actually teams go no huddle so that once you get to the line of scrimage the ball can be snapped at any time. Notice you see Peyton do his hands like he wants the ball, but then he walks away and barks out a bunch of stuff and the ball isn't snapped for another 10-15 seconds. This is because once the QB is in position to take the snap, it forces the defence to be ready to play. They can't keep screwing around and moving around theey need to be ready for the snap. Its hard to call blitzes against a no huddle team, you almost force the defense to play base.

Dallas should play no huddle especially when Felix is in the game because he can flex out as a WR in the slot and force the defense to guard him with a LB. We can run this set out of 21 personell. everybody plays base Defense when they see a FB in the game. But when felix is in the game. Its really 11 personell if we wanted it to be. Look at how New Orleans uses Bush, and Philly uses Westbrook. We do nothing with Felix in the passing game other than throwing a few screens. You know the CB's will play the outside WR, The strong saftey will go to the TE side. A LB must flex out with Felix. This could always be a mismatc!.

Our gameplans are not creative at all. we focus more on playing the style that we want to play rather than focusing on finding individual matchups like I just spoke of. Jason Garrett in otherwords has his mind made up of how he see's the game rather than do what we need to do. He obviously is in his comfort zone when Tony is in shot gun throwing the ball. He took alot of heat early when we struggled. He changed, we won, he got back cocky ... and then resorted right back to his comfort zone. He does not want to be a ball control dominant OL type smash mouth team. I think since he has designs on being a Head Coach. He tries to use the offense as an operatunity to display his brillance, rather than use it do display the Dominance of the OL. I think if we contiued to rush for 200+ yards per game he is affraid he wouldn't get the credit. But if we throw for 4000 yards then he will get alot of credit. Wade is not the problem b/c this is the best Cowbot defense I have seen in a while. But jerry hired Garett so Wade can't override Jason. When Tony threw the INT. it was either 1st or 2nd down. Why the hell are we in shot gun wen Marion or Choice can get 3-4 at anytime. That would have been a good time to run that wilcat with choice.
 

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kowboyMarlon;3085889 said:
Sometimes the defense may show it to late to change the protection. Thats why alot of teams run no huddle. Comentators are so wrong most of the time on TV. They think that teams run no huddle so that the defense can't substitute. Actually teams go no huddle so that once you get to the line of scrimage the ball can be snapped at any time. Notice you see Peyton do his hands like he wants the ball, but then he walks away and barks out a bunch of stuff and the ball isn't snapped for another 10-15 seconds. This is because once the QB is in position to take the snap, it forces the defence to be ready to play. They can't keep screwing around and moving around theey need to be ready for the snap. Its hard to call blitzes against a no huddle team, you almost force the defense to play base.

Dallas should play no huddle especially when Felix is in the game because he can flex out as a WR in the slot and force the defense to guard him with a LB. We can run this set out of 21 personell. everybody plays base Defense when they see a FB in the game. But when felix is in the game. Its really 11 personell if we wanted it to be. Look at how New Orleans uses Bush, and Philly uses Westbrook. We do nothing with Felix in the passing game other than throwing a few screens. You know the CB's will play the outside WR, The strong saftey will go to the TE side. A LB must flex out with Felix. This could always be a mismatc!.

Our gameplans are not creative at all. we focus more on playing the style that we want to play rather than focusing on finding individual matchups like I just spoke of. Jason Garrett in otherwords has his mind made up of how he see's the game rather than do what we need to do. He obviously is in his comfort zone when Tony is in shot gun throwing the ball. He took alot of heat early when we struggled. He changed, we won, he got back cocky ... and then resorted right back to his comfort zone. He does not want to be a ball control dominant OL type smash mouth team. I think since he has designs on being a Head Coach. He tries to use the offense as an operatunity to display his brillance, rather than use it do display the Dominance of the OL. I think if we contiued to rush for 200+ yards per game he is affraid he wouldn't get the credit. But if we throw for 4000 yards then he will get alot of credit. Wade is not the problem b/c this is the best Cowbot defense I have seen in a while. But jerry hired Garett so Wade can't override Jason. When Tony threw the INT. it was either 1st or 2nd down. Why the hell are we in shot gun wen Marion or Choice can get 3-4 at anytime. That would have been a good time to run that wilcat with choice.


Awesome post! Totally agree.
 
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