Filling Holes in the Roster

[quickccc]

Tight end is a priority. I don’t think Kincaid makes it by Washington.

I'm not in awed with Kincaid, and i don't think we need to drafting a TE in the first or early rd. just for the sake of drafting a TE.

The one thing i can say i like about the Cowboys draft philosophy is certain positions such as NT, safety and tight end, they won't reach for drafting one for the
sake of having one. They would have to be blue chip caliber according to their board for us to consider selecting them.

Gerwin James would be an example of a blue chip safety.

BTW, it's not draft related, but there have been other times when it comes to close big trades for certain positions such as safeties, where
i believe we flat lucked out ala Earl Thomas and Jamal Adams.

 

[JBS]

I am of the opinion that we do not need to draft a TE this year. Let's see how our current guys do. If we want to draft a round 6 or 7 TE and bring in an undrafted TE or 2, I would be fine with that. Just draft BPA in the first and then round out the draft with OL, DT, CB, WR, LB, RB and hope to find a couple of diamonds in the rough.

Yeah what are you going to say when bpa is a TE at 26?

 

[kskboys]

I'm not in awed with Kincaid, and i don't think we need to drafting a TE in the first or early rd. just for the sake of drafting a TE.

The one thing i can say i like about the Cowboys draft philosophy is certain positions such as NT, safety and tight end, they won't reach for drafting one for the
sake of having one. They would have to be blue chip caliber according to their board for us to consider selecting them.

Gerwin James would be an example of a blue chip safety.

BTW, it's not draft related, but there have been other times when it comes to close big trades for certain positions such as safeties, where
i believe we flat lucked out ala Earl Thomas and Jamal Adams.

TE is not a need. It is not even close to being a priority.

I swear, where do people get this stuff from?

 

[kskboys]

Yeah what are you going to say when bpa is a TE at 26?

Since there's really only one TE rated as a 1st round talent, that's almost impossible. It's highly likely that the BPA when we draft will be a RB. Could easily be a CB. Possibly an OLB.

 

[JBS]

Since there's really only one TE rated as a 1st round talent, that's almost impossible. It's highly likely that the BPA when we draft will be a RB. Could easily be a CB. Possibly an OLB.

There’s only 18 or so first round grades. Most likely the bpa will have a 2nd rd trade at 26 so that doesn’t change anything. And 4 guys are rated in that 25-32 range

 

[kskboys]

There’s only 18 or so first round grades. Most likely the bpa will have a 2nd rd trade at 26 so that doesn’t change anything. And 4 guys are rated in that 25-32 range

Not from the source I trust. It's Kincaid in the 1st/2nd, and all the others are more in the 2nd or later range. And the other 2nd rounder is Musgrave, who is a huge medical risk and can't block his way out of a wet paper bag. You thought Schultz couldn't block, MusgraFeve's blocking makes him look all world.

Fergie is most likely a better prospect than any in this draft.

 

[JBS]

Not from the source I trust. It's Kincaid in the 1st/2nd, and all the others are more in the 2nd or later range. And the other 2nd rounder is Musgrave, who is a huge medical risk and can't block his way out of a wet paper bag. You thought Schultz couldn't block, MusgraFeve's blocking makes him look all world.

Fergie is most likely a better prospect than any in this draft.

What source is this that you speak of? Calling musgrave a huge medical risk is major hyperbole.

You are saying Ferguson is better than all of the TEs in this class? Are you ok?

 

[Coogiguy03]

It is me. I just don’t post nearly as much as in the past. I’ve refocused on other areas of my life.

Respect

 

[baltcowboy]

Why do you think their numbers are low BECAUSE WE HAD SCHULTZ!

Ferguson and Hendershot are JAGS. Shultz was a good tight end that is not on the roster. A good tight end is needed for MM offense. The Cowboys will draft one early in my opinion.

 

[quickccc]

CB - Stephon Gilmore - slight improvement. short term solution. need to look for replacement already.
S - re-signed Donovan Wilson - stayed the same no improvement.
LB - re-signed Leighton Vander Esch - stayed the same, needed improvement
Edge - re-signed Dante Fowler, Jr. - stayed the same, needed improvement
DT - re-signed Johnathan Hankins - stayed the same , needed improvement.

QB - re-signed Cooper Rush - stayed the same, needed improvement
RB - Ronald Jones, Franchise Tag Tony Pollard - hmmm, interesting. less depth perhaps. and Tony was injured.
OT - 2nd round tender offer to RFA Terrance Williams
OG - Chuma Edoga
TE - Fill from within (Ferguson & Hendershot) - slightly worse as both showed potential, but not proven.
WR - Brandin Cooks - slight improvement.

- Terrence Steele ?
- We need improvement over Donovan Wilson ?
- I dont wanna say we're done at RB, who knows what RB high on their board may drop. and we have two RBs one year deals.
- TE similar case, if there happens to be a regarded TE that surprisingly drops - it becomes great value -just pray it's not Gavin Escobar type pick again.

 

[quickccc]

Quinn would argue that you know nothing about his depth at LB, he dismisses the LB relevance.

Then let him and anyone else argue about the LB depth, especially when one of these dismisses barely even hit the field as a healthy game day inactive scratch.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

- Terrence Steele ?
- We need improvement over Donovan Wilson ?
- I dont wanna say we're done at RB, who knows what RB high on their board may drop. and we have two RBs one year deals.
- TE similar case, if there happens to be a regarded TE that surprisingly drops - it becomes great value -just pray it's not Gavin Escobar type pick again.

Steele? Coming off injury.
Wilson is status quo. He is not improvement.

We will probably draft a RB. Mid rounds

And draft generally is an unknown.

 

[kskboys]

What source is this that you speak of? Calling musgrave a huge medical risk is major hyperbole.

You are saying Ferguson is better than all of the TEs in this class? Are you ok?

PROSPECT. And he might be. Looks to me like a bunch of speed guys who can't block and a huge guy who is a very slow mover.

Don't agree that it's a hyperbole. Knee injuries are very tricky.

 

[JBS]

PROSPECT. And he might be. Looks to me like a bunch of speed guys who can't block and a huge guy who is a very slow mover.

Don't agree that it's a hyperbole. Knee injuries are very tricky.

no. He’s not and he’s not particularly close. There’s a reason he was drafted nowhere near where all of these guys will go

 

[Kingofholland]

I am of the opinion that we do not need to draft a TE this year. Let's see how our current guys do. If we want to draft a round 6 or 7 TE and bring in an undrafted TE or 2, I would be fine with that. Just draft BPA in the first and then round out the draft with OL, DT, CB, WR, LB, RB and hope to find a couple of diamonds in the rough.

I too am not interested in spending a premium pick on day 1 or 2 on a TE unless its truly a steal on day 2. I just don't see any rookie TE stepping in and immediately making a bigger impact than Ferg or Hendershot. So I would save a TE for day 3 if they do draft one.

There are some questions on if Ferg or Hendershot will turn into full-time players that flashed at times last year, but they certainly deserve a shot. The Cowboys missed the boat on bringing Austin Hooper in on a very resonable contract 1 year deal under 3 million. I think he could step in and provide insurance as a reliable option should Ferg and or Hendershot not progress as much as we hope. They could still give Cameron Brate a look. He's not the player he was, but can provide some leadership and insurance on the team.

 

[CCBoy]

There is a major difference between filling holes and upgrading. I see two upgrades, Gilmore and Cooks, on that list.

That took creativity and does some tactical change on both sides of the ball. Hooooah!

The team needs a lead bull at running back, but an immediate and youthfully strong addition to match with last year's OT Smith. Can't go wrong with in house and angry lineman in the offensive line group. Tyron won't last much longer and keep on the carpet long enough to continue to project upon,..and pay.

 

[CCBoy]

Pretty much status quo with those two players being that slight upgrade. Players they lost were expected, but they filled those with other FA’s as well.
A 12-5 team for two years in a row and going further in the playoffs sometimes may only need that slight upgrade.
And with a very good draft that can become more than a slight upgrade.

Also with a change on the offense, with routes and schemes and play calling. New OL & RB coaches can make a difference. I am ready to see any improvements on offense from this. The defense pretty much in tact as well, players with a 3rd year under Quinn. Should be even better.

Dak”s INT’s may have been an anomaly based on his history. And other factors involved. We shall see. That should improve. Especially with a WR with speed and can stretch the field and can catch. Therefore opening up other WR as well.
They still need RB, DT, LB, OL, but the draft can provide those.

Those slight upgrades may turn out to be a difference. I am not predicting a SB but I can’t see not making the playoffs either, as to winning the division as well. As I still think the Eagles drop off. SF is the team to beat still though they too have lost more than they gained the last I seen.

San Francisco taught Jerry before he bought the Cowboys. The confrontations during the dynasty years, was with the 49'ers. Let the thunder again return between the two.

The NFC East has returned to fully respectable...which pushes the winner further into the playoffs. So, again, let's start calling for the Niner's to show up in the playoffs.

Dsllas needs a bell cow in the running back group...not just talented as is now the case.

Top end tight end would be a major piece on offense...but my first addeed piece would be an offensive lineman with 'true grit.'

 

[DuncanIso]

The Cowboys have done a good job rebuilding the losses they've experienced during last season and the offseason.

With the signing of Johnathan Hankins, all immediate holes are filled, with the exception of TE & Place Kicker.

LS - Trent Sieg
PK - not filled

CB - Stephon Gilmore
S - re-signed Donovan Wilson
LB - re-signed Leighton Vander Esch
Edge - re-signed Dante Fowler, Jr.
DT - re-signed Johnathan Hankins

QB - re-signed Cooper Rush
RB - Ronald Jones, Franchise Tag Tony Pollard
OT - 2nd round tender offer to RFA Terrance Williams
OG - Chuma Edoga
TE - Fill from within (Ferguson & Hendershot)
WR - Brandin Cooks

RB is a mess.

 

[BEARCATSKLZ]

There is a major difference between filling holes and upgrading. I see two upgrades, Gilmore and Cooks, on that list.

So both offense and defense was upgraded ...

 

[ferrispata]

Ferguson had 19 catches and Hendershot had 11. Tight end should be a priority in this draft.

Because Dalton vultured the targets and rightly so. Someone will step forward this year like Dalton did the last few.